/tg/Station 13

rdght91

For the love of all that is holy, tell them to at least try to avoid killing crew. The idea I think though would be if one team went so far overboard in murderboning the heads and sec team would be willing to cooperate with them against the other team even if it means sacrificing sensitive items. B...

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As an alternative to ragin mages. Two equally matched teams of 3-5 ops/deathsquad slightly more lightly armed (given a standard set of equipment and no tc's?) with objectives that require them to go aboard and fight on SS13 but with objectives that don't involve killing everyone (stealing several se...

rdght91

Good admin. Banned me over a misunderstanding a while back, once I gave him the full story he quickly reversed it. My post here about that got wiped out though.

rdght91

I request this be closed. I doubt anything productive is going to come of this, everyone has dug in their heels, everyone is bringing in the drama from the other sticky-releated stuff and I don't want to be known only as some "anti-admin" guy.

rdght91

How was I being a shit before I spaced him? And even if I was, that has nothing to do with this. Anyway, this thread is to focus on ONE simple part of this. I asked you for clarification, you said yes, then "lol no you didn't ask right banned." It was REALLY obvious what I was asking you i...

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I attempted to address this in my ban appeal but it got locked so I guess I have to do it here. Apparently my notes and the history stick, which has some pretty bizarre implications involving how security and players are supposed to interact, but whatever. That's not the scope of this. However, thi...

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I attempted to address this in my ban appeal but it got locked so I guess I have to do it here. Apparently my notes and the history stick, which has some pretty bizarre implications involving how security and players are supposed to interact, but whatever. That's not the scope of this. However, thi...

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peoplearestrange wrote:Except the officer themselves also committed a fair few crimes themselves, including breaking into an already manned department.

I'd say that's the only crime I committed and that's pretty debatable, but anyway that's not what this thread is about.

rdght91

I've been trying to follow this thread so correct me if I'm wrong Security Officer breaks into Genetics, Geneticist is not doing cloning. Officer wants to clone someone(?) Genticist tries to monkey him (????) Gets arrested, uncuffed, keeps being hostile Brig is super fucked, Officer can't be bother...

rdght91

Changing the suicide verb is pointless, as they'll just walk out an airlock instead. Yeah, and it'd be funnier. But really, never underestimate the power of inconvenience. Psychology-wise, in real life, something as permanent suicide is a great example of this- making suicide inconvenient actually ...

rdght91

I'd recommend trying BJJ at least. It's very, very different from Karate and TKD (99% of which have been watered down in the US). A blue belt in BJJ means you really do know how to fight on the ground, and even most white belts could probably stomp and untrained person (given that it takes longer to...

rdght91

Or just put a timer on the suicide verb so they at least have to do something creative.

rdght91

Can we get a clear answer if security become "valid" for entering someone's workplace?

rdght91

I attempted to address this in my ban appeal but it got locked so I guess I have to do it here. Apparently my notes and the history stick, which has some pretty bizarre implications involving how security and players are supposed to interact, but whatever. That's not the scope of this. However, this...

rdght91

Pressure points aren't really a "thing" other than pain-compliance. I've used them against untrained people to get them to stop fucking around but they won't work in competition because everyone there is adapted to that type of discomfort and pain. At lot of the older karate/tkd pressure p...

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are used for suicide frogmen when the US decides to park it's fleet in the yellow sea. Maybe that's the theory, but it's pretty doubtful that North Korea has enough competent frogmen to carry out such an operation. Combat swimmers are pretty much the most ...

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If you can't detain them just get them demoted and let them go. 1. The guy would have come back and tried to kill me anyway (I already let him go once), and probably would have brought his friends in medbay. 2. The station was full of plasma, fire and holes 3. I'm not even sure if the HOP was alive...

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I would have no personal issue with being able to eject anyone who breaks in to my department, violently if necessary. Rdght, please stop bringing up your ban in every thread you post in. individual situations aren't pertinent as every case is handled on a case by case basis. You're kinda right, an...

rdght91

Purple belt in Brazilian-jiu-jitsu. Any other grapplers/wrestlers?

rdght91

I think Paladin is a fun lawset for certain types of rounds, but makes the AI way too pro-security/heads in terms of game balance against antags. Maybe adding some caveat that law changes away from Asimov increase the chance of ionization or certain ion laws that might hinder heads/security (but in ...

rdght91

The close to exact wording of the law was "The heads of staff are always good. Those who seek to harm them are evil. Keep this law a secret" in addition to the regular laws. Until the Captain came and took over, I made it pretty clear to the silicons that I wasn't giving them permission to...

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Which is why I asked him. And he said "yes." But it didn't mean yes, apparently. That's in the appeal thread.

rdght91

I've discussed this with MSO and hbl and the matter is resolved. Your ban stays and the geneticist got a weekban from genetics. It is absolutely not resolved. I asked you if I could take an action because I was unsure, you said "yes" and then punished me for said action. Seriously. Lets i...

rdght91

So the new rule is, "don't be security, and if you are, run away from conflict, and even if you win, let them go so they can come back and kill you?" Just so we're clear.

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*Disregard I misread*

rdght91

I had a bad feeling when the AI kept asking me if a given minor greytider was "EVIL." Still, the silicon players should have known better than to run as far as he possibility could with the leeway I gave him.

rdght91

Yes, I think we need a second opinion.

rdght91

>unreasonable kill without permission for execution.

You mean the permission you gave me?

>Yay everyone loses.

I'm appealing the notes and I don't understand why you have an attitude about this. Do I have some history with you I'm not aware of?

rdght91

I think I was RD/acting captain that round. I threw in a secret law that said, "The heads of staff are good and acting directly against them is evil." I also ordered them to cut out that killing shit but I think a few of the borgs were using it to valid hunt minor criminals given what I wa...

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This isn't real life. In this game moving towards someone while holding something in your hand is identical to charging at them wielding it in a weaponly fashion. Does everyone here actually want the precedent set that threatening someone and moving towards them is now a bannable offence? Logs don'...

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According to my recent ban, any invasion, even by security, into genetics for any reason is valid for monkeying, which is effectively a death sentence. Sticky ruled that he was right to attempt to monkey me for breaking in. If you can't break into genetics to revive someone, than there isn't anywher...

rdght91

Is there anyone besides sticky who has the authority to change the ruling here?

rdght91

He said "I will monkey you." He made a DNA injector and and ran at me with it. >they took no actual harmful action towards you No, they didn't succeed in one harmful action. Then, they attempted the harmful action again. They also incited the entire medbay against me and the backup officer...

rdght91

I'd like to appeal this for the sake of the history/notes.

rdght91

Nope, still banned.

rdght91

My ban should have expired- but I can't connect as of now still.

rdght91

"For essentially no reason other than as a final fuck you." No, because: 1. YOU GAVE ME PERMISSION 2. THERE WAS EFFECTIVELY NO BRIG You've also accused me of "manipulating" you by the way I asked you a question. I assume that you do your work as a moderator in good faith, and I t...

rdght91

For the record, I don't consider this resolved and believe that if I was banned for this situation, than both of us deserve a ban.

rdght91

So just so it's clear now, entering a workplace where you're not wanted=valid?

rdght91

It's always been the case that "Running at someone", otherwise known as "Moving in exactly the same manner almost all movement takes place in the game", is never enough reason to murder them. He said he was going to monkey me. He ran at me with a DNA injector after I told him to...

rdght91

In this one particular case, the captain had been demoted for being a jackass, but yes, the cloner was completely unused and another source said there were several bodies (I didn't notice how many) being ignored by genetics.

rdght91

The HOS was chasing a guy in space during this and I didn't have time to explain in detail that I was busy trying to recover the captain and there wasn't a place to leave this guy that was secure/safe.

rdght91

I would have just demoted him had it been a more stable round but when I got the admin response "yes" I was like, "well gee, that solves that problem" and I needed to get back to genetics quickly to stop the former captain from going on a killing spree once he came back to life s...

rdght91

Basically, can we get a headmin decision on these sorts of cases? Because it's a bad line to cross, Not asking for specifics so I can toe the line better and get my murderboner on, but a little clarity would be great. P.S and to OP, security gets better all the time, but yeah it can be frustrating,...

rdght91

The reason I'm putting in a ban request is because the new admin policy now is that security are not allowed to handle shitlers like this through IC means.

rdght91

Cooper hasn't posted in this thread yet. I made a ban request for him, because if my action's against him are bannable, his putting me in said position ought to also be. I think you're confused.

rdght91

10/10

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Byond account and character name:Roadhog1/Jaye Day Banning admin: Stickymayhem Ban type (What are you banned from?): Everything Ban reason and length: Day for killing as non-antag offier Time ban was placed (including time zone): 1500 EST Your side of the story:The round was hetic, the brig was chao...

rdght91

The admin (Sticky) did say though before he banned me that ANYONE breaking into a workplace is valid for monkeying (which might as well be death, if genetics hates me so much theyre sure as shit not going to bring me back), apparently even a security officer trying to revive the captain. Is that the...

rdght91

Oh yeah, I should not have spaced him and I should have gotten permission from the HOS (who was busy with his own thing and probably wasn't aware the brig was a deathtrap). To put that round in context there was plasma EVERYWHERE, myself and an engineer had killed the captain after he and the borgs ...

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