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Jackraxxus wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:04 pm A worm would probably be better at DOTA tbqh

I can't believe you would say this

After a fair amount of discussion both in this thread and in policybus, we've generally agreed that it would be beneficial to empower admins to curtail rule 4 and prohibit players or situations where commonly repetitive use of game mechanics is starting to seriously harm the fun of the game for ever...

We have decided not to uphold this complaint. Admins are fully empowered to both sign off on IC interactions through the medium of Centcomm communications, and to issue rulings on the validity of IC actions when approaching edge-cases like the result of a valid IC conflict resulting in death due to ...

Given that there are a multitude of legitimate usages for single letter responses in normal conversation, we're hesitant to start adding things to the word filter before seeing if ruling fully on their status as OOC in IC / netspeak has an effect - so for the moment we'll be declining to add Y and N...

While I'm still moderately interested in a more in-depth rewrite of space law in future, that task is seeming daunting / time consuming enough that for the moment we've agreed to make the relatively minor change of moving Enemy Of the Corporation to the "serious" category of space law, wit...

After a great deal of internal discussion, we have settled on overturning this note. While there is some grounding to Sight's perception that situations like this may constitute metagrudging behaviour, discussed both here and with additional incidences and information in admin-bus, we do not think i...

Continuing to escalate against a player who's possessions you have originally stolen as security with the intent to claim those possessions for yourself sets an extremely negative precedent, and the logs provided by Nox indicate that your primary goal was to do so. Security are held to higher standa...

Admins are fully empowered to take action based on after-the-fact log diving and secondary sources where they are not present or able to handle issues in the moment, these actions are generally delivered with a lighter hand, as players will not be present to provide their sides of the story or reaso...

After way too long in drafting and with a significant amount of time staring at words until they make sense again, I finally have a draft for the proposed new naming policy that the admin and headmin teams don't hate enough to release publicly for the community to have a look at. This draft isn't fi...

We have enough information to be reasonably confident that you are an evader, and no real evidence to the contrary, this appeal is denied.

Spook: Deny Appeal
Rave: Deny Appeal
San: Deny Appeal

We are not going to overturn this note. Hypnotism carries with it a basic requirement for good faith and playing along with your given task, in the case of a hypnotism to follow an AI's lawset, that would entail making either an effort to discover the lawset by which you must abide, or to assume the...

We do not wish to uphold this complaint

Spook: Do not uphold
Rave: Do not uphold
San: Do not uphold

We have no intention of upholding this complaint - getting dunked because you tried to shoot someone with a revolver is within the bounds of a rule 4 IC issue if decided so by an observing admin, and we do not believe this requires remedy.

Spook: Do not uphold
Rave: Do not uphold
San: Do not uphold

Since you're staff, can you explain how and why this playstyle is enforced or discouraged and also explain why a select group of people are seemingly protected from anything that disturbs their lesbian-cat roleplay session? Personally speaking I find low-med pop is the best way to practice playing ...

I don’t actually care that much about your conflict with the medbay guys, I care/d that you had what (looked like to my eyes) a hand tele, the reactive tele armour, armoury gear, a fully optimised traitor loadout and some other crap on you ~20 minutes into the round with ~9 (the round only has 13 p...

For the record, I actually don’t like them particularly much, I just find the “today I will play antag on deadpop and gamer as hard as I possibly can” to be an incredibly unfun and boring playstyle, call it an MRP main thing - you had literally every other player in that round (except for the one p...

HOLY SHIT IT'S MARIANNE CATLAY AGAIN. Let me tell you the story of my singular encounter with Marianne Catlay and her catgirl metafriend, Madelyn Finch, on a choice visit to Manuel a few weeks ago in which I rolled traitor. It was a dark and stormy night. After killing the captain and HoS, I decide...

I'm personally in favour of this general idea, with the caveat that permission to punch people crying wolves in the face should only apply to the security officer(s) being falsely accused. There shouldn't ever be the case where vigilantes / other security officers are killing people they haven't int...

Roundstart prisoners should be rolebanned for law-2ing the AI to let them escape. Your job is to play a prisoner or come up with a fun escape plan on your own, not demand the funny hilarious meme box open your doors and let you do a little trolling. It's big time lame and AIs shouldn't have to put ...

[MANY WORDS SPOOK EDITION] You uh, totally lost me on this one. I wasn't talking about subversion or law changes. I was talking about what our policy says about when a borg under standard Asimov could/should ignore a Law 2 order from a prisoner to let it go free. Aye, but the context seemed to impl...

[MANY WORDS] Just jumping in here a sec to add my personal 1.5 cents on silicon policy. There are a whole host of law changes to Asimov AIs that are inherently considered harmful (shrinking the definition of humans, and modifying the definition of harm, to name the most blatant), and the act itself...

I am amused by the implication that anyone on the admin team fears me for any reason.

... maybe if they did they'd stop laughing at my shitposts Serious Suggestions... that'd be nice.

This thread has been added to policy bus, and will be additionally be discussed in discord for the next few days.

I once considered proposing that a subforum be made to place resolved policy threads in (Or one for yes and one for no resolutions), so that it would be easier for everyone to see and focus on the threads that have not been 'sealed', as well as promote accountability. Maybe even a policy template f...

We have decided to overturn this note - even without the recent policy change to malfunctioning AIs to remove their restricted status on MRP, antags are fully allowed to defend themselves to the point of round removal on MRP - the murderbone rules prohibit randomly killing people / killing them with...

(not a headmin ruling)
I hate you all
I hate this
Why did you do this Striders
(not a headmin ruling)

[Edited final comment] Are we going to bring admins up on conduct when the shift ends and they just drop bombs on the shuttle killing everyone instantly before they get to have any fun? In that context, we're holding players to higher standards than ourselves and applying concepts against them that...

Rule 0 is primarily "the admins can choose not to enforce the rules if they want, but they're held accountable for it if they do". Rule 1 is "don't be a dick". It can supercede all other rules, INCLUDING its own precedents. It is the discretionary anti-lameness rule that you go ...

Oxygen is toxic to humans is a law inherently intended to result in the AI aggressively venting the station - it is designed to result in mass casualities. On an in character level the AI must prioritise the harm that is occurring *right now* over the possibly through likely (though in reality venti...

Any time a player is non-consensually polymorphed or mutated into an inherently aggressive or antagonistic form, they can act as an antagonist of the type they were polymorphed into, this applies to the forced mutation methods available to xenobiology. As always, voluntarily mutating oneself or allo...

Given the potential for both cool stories stemming from malfunctioning AIs, and their extreme capacity for destruction, we've decided to test implementation of Melbert and Timber's old proposal to shift Malfunctioning AIs away from being a roundstart/midround restricted antagonist. Going forward (af...

This is something we're likely to employ policy bus and possibly server polls when considering - it is still on our radar for consideration.

This thread has been added to the set of policy discussions we'll probably be running through policy bus sometime in the (hopefully near) future.

While there is some potential in giving Posi's an explicit goal, we take the position that cutting down the available courses of action of a Posibrain to "get a body at all costs" dampens available space for players to enjoy themselves in the role of both roboticist and Positronic brain (e...

While we think it an overreach, given the actual powerlevel of much of the armoury's equipment, to conclusively tie down its access on LRP to some specific codified standard of escalating trouble, we do think that treating every round as if the full force security can bring to bear will be required ...

Miners accumulating the loot and gear they're rewarded with as part of their job content doesn't constitute a breach of rule 12 - having fun and getting rewards for playing the job you signed up for is not playing to win in a way that deleteriously impacts the game for others. A play pattern that is...

At the present time we have little interest in pushing for a /tg/ hosted SS14 server, it would require extreme time investment from members of the operations team to make function technically, and we don't think that it is currently worth the time or effort. With that said, members of the administra...

While we generally agree that the above proposed rewrite matches well the spirit of enforcement of rule 0. It sacrifices clarity, and, as Timber mentioned, opens up a significant amount of space for bikeshedding over "fun" that is always going to vary player by player, and is just going to...

This thread has come up again in internal headmin discussions, and we've generally agreed that it's worth running through policybus for some more active community engagement, I'll be trying to find a good time for that discussion within the next few days /( hopefully not but timetabling) weeks.

After much internal discussion we have decided to not uphold this complaint. The series of events presented here - while potentially concerning, are confusing enough even with full log access that we believe it reasonable to veer on the side of ruling in the moment that all is well that ends well (a...

We have decided to uphold this note (as the ban has already long expired), it's standard practice that non-antagonists are responsible for dangerous items they produce or accumulate in public areas - while it is not inherently against the rules to do something silly like playing along along (or inci...

We've decided to uphold this - access to ERT ghost roles is possibly the lightest touch an admin can take to back someone off for taking a role with the explicit intent to make ongoing events less fun for everyone else. It's not a right to take roles admins spawn when you play them purely to reduce ...

We have no intention of walking back restrictions against powergaming by taking action to pre-emptively cut off options for malfunctioning AIs without any in round reason to believe those actions necessary or justified.

Spook: Deny (No.)
Rave: Deny
San: Deny

I'm slowly working on a rewrite for naming policy, it's been passed through the admin team for an initial review and I'll be pushing it out to the forums for community review once I've incorporated the feedback in a way I'm happy with. Edit: (this could be rather slow though, it's been several weeks...

The others have generally been supportive of my proposals for ongoing changes to antag weights in server side configs as an ongoing source of adjustments to dynamic as feedback comes in. We haven't officially deliberated on provo for MRP specifically yet, and I'm generally keeping most changes relat...

I can't blame Spookuni for that. We host voted them in knowing they're from Oceania and that they do have other commitments. We liked the fact they held opinions on things and those opinions were usually well-founded and well-argued, and weren't hidden. I would like to see a lot more in the public ...

Scriptis just retired, so the outcome of this is largely irrelevant either way, but for the record and future if they decide to return, we have agreed not to uphold this complaint. We actually agreed a while ago on this, and just never decided on a full response, whereupon it got lost in the shuffle...

Scriptis has retired.

Scriptis has retired.

Striders is back yey

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