/tg/Station 13

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As I see it, this forum is for "I want the people at large to know what the 'mins think, but what the people at large think is irrelevant". I've got a thing or two I intend to post here if it's still up when headmin elections are done and over with.

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What events do you like Those that force ARR PEE in order to participate. Those that stem from the going-ons of the natural round in progress. Those that display some obscure varedit or button trick. Those that only involve people who come to the event, instead of the event going to the players. Th...

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Malkevin wrote:I'm surprised I'm not on this magic list

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All-access is not inherently good or bad, it's like a gun. Possession of a Restricted Weapon To be in possession of a restricted weapon without prior authorisation, such as: Guns, Batons, Flashes, Grenades, etc. So are you arguing for decriminalizing unauthorized guns, or arguing for criminalizing ...

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Antonkr wrote:I like to run smaller events (ie transfering dangerous item that should NEVER be opened to the armory)

Unfortunately even when sec is bad at making a formation, tators don't ever steal it.

That's why you transfer it somewhere far less logical.

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And how are prisoners to know if the officer got proper authorization or not?

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Antonkr wrote:have the team be punished by not having a person.

Why should they be punished for something someone else did?

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Why not just adminhelp about the 2 afk ops and have them replaced? Because hindsight is 20/20, and not relevant. What matters is if lumipharon's response was acceptable, not if it was the best possible response. If we banned over "I, looking back with infinite time to ponder and no pressure to...

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Ikarrus wrote:We should use whatever system allows us to sidestep the perceived necessity for "strategic" voting.

That'd be instant runoff. Completely and utterly negates all voting strategy other than "List my preferences in order".

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See, if MoMMIs had been ported instead of this snowflake gotta-be-"original" drone business, you'd have RPDs and internal tools and thus no issues with needing a BoH to carry your shit.

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/vg/station is enough headminning for me, I'm turning down the nomination.

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You're looking at this entirely the wrong way. The drone isn't trying to "stop" an "antag" from "releasing" the singularity. In a drone's mind, the antag doesn't exist. All that exists is a singularity in danger of causing station damage. This is like saying the PA con...

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>is interfering with this dude's firestarting interfering?
>is interfering with this dude's B&E interfering?
>is interfering with this dudes attempted singuloose interfering?
Seriously, people. This isn't rocket science.

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I'd give you a Kurt von Schleicher at best.

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Ooh, that's not a bad idea. And as aside, having lings be not insta-valid would mean borgs might try to detain them in harm cages or something. I've always liked the idea of trying to like, permabrig a ling and weld the vents or whatever, but it's always too dangerous for a human officer to even dr...

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How are people going to feel when a lizard captain gets doorslammed to prevent harm to the last nuke op, who then blows up the station, though? This has implications beyond just the person in question. You already provided an answer to "what should the AI do" in the form of silicon policy...

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Reimoo wrote:What would be the difference? Are they not the same thing?

Drones are to MoMMIs as retarded children are to normal humans.

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I think the best way to go about this would be /vg/-style MoMMis or some other method of getting back into the round in a minorly productive manner. I don't think a literal deathmatch arena sends the right message. NT has Maintenance Drones, with a little cleanup and work, they could be deployed to...

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Port MoMMIs instead of these snowflake totally-not-MoMMI abortions.

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Whitelists are on the blacklist.

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As far as I'm concerned, this entire affair dancing around ASIMOV chanting "Rule 1! Rule 1!" is utterly disgraceful and shows that administration can't handle lizardmen. For SHAME, panda. For SHAME, HBL. Doorcrushing a slimeperson attacking security isn't "pretty dickish". In fac...

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Pandarsenic wrote:No way to have it only do it once the last writing-to is done for that round and it cycles through again?

I'm sure that's possible, but I don't know if it's been implemented.

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I think the easiest solution would be to do it to the logs when the day cycles, since that's when the server moves to a new log file anyway. The issue with that is that the server is still writing to yesterday's log until the round ends, so there'd be a period every day when current logs were public.

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You have these massive data-dumps. But there are no names or identifying information (it'd be too easy to exploit -- I hope I'm just being cynical but I suspect some people will try to metagame off them.) So it's a flood of useless info. Forgot to mention that the logs would have to be delayed some...

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bandit wrote:so full of info as to be useless.

How so?

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Hornygranny wrote:yes

leibniz wrote:no.

Why?

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I suggest that a version of the server logs with login details (IPs, ect) censored be made publicly available.
E: Also delayed 6-12 hours to prevent metagaming, obviously.

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He didn't give himself antagonist multiple times. Try to avoid inane conjecture like that, it will get your threads a negative reaction by reflex. The only actual complaint is that he met up with Bon Nuit a second time, after which he PMed the player telling them to stop. You'll understand that I c...

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Stickymayhem wrote:
Ikarrus wrote:How would you guys feel about barring lizards from heads and security, then?
This would be cool. That or leaving CE, CMO and RD still selectable as lizardperson as they are less important roles.

>Chief Engineer
>less important

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mrpain wrote:Since regular crew members can outright lynch WGW readers, is it ok for security to perma them? I would assume yes.

Completely allowed. Be as shitcurity as you'd like.

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In the event an alien spawns, either by facehugger from mining, adminbus, or some other cause, is the first alien to spawn obligated in any way to the potential future aliens that it could spawn? For example, could the alien attempt "friendly" contact with the captain via alien whisper, kn...

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Only thing I'd like is for everyone to stop losing their shit over the lizards. Every round devolves into a race war essentially. There was one round where I was HoP where there was the ALM (Anti-Lizard Movement) and the LDL (Lizard Defense League) where the lizards had gotten weapon permits and ta...

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I am not making some admin conspiracy, I am not contesting a mute for a round TLDR; Muted me because two other people complained on OOC and "several ahelps" without giving any warning, proceeded to stand by bad adminning in duet. Sure seems like you are. Put those goalposts back where you...

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Yes, we are. Security is a protected role. They can be reasonably assumed to be trustworthy. There's no reason to blame someone for giving somebody something they can be reasonably expected not to misuse. We do not blame HoPs for cargo staff they promote going full guncargonia. We do not blame miner...

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Keep in mind that if your sec team starts dishing out summary executions via laser the responsibility is pretty much on your head as the HoS/Warden/Captain who gave them eguns. Why would it be? They could have just as easily executed via harmbaton, having a egun instead of a taser would not allow t...

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I would much rather see a thing like Bay does where it's the canonical first known contact or at least something where the changelings are treated as diverse individuals, just like traitors, so that it isn't "FIND STUN KILL CUFF GIB/INCINERATE" it closes off RP opportunities the changelin...

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You were spamming OOC and people had asked you to stop. Whoever muted you was well within their rights to do so.

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Fluff-wise, it's no longer congruent with mechanics and it closes off RP opportunities the changelings would otherwise have with the AI and at times with the crew. That's an argument for removing it, but still not an argument for I would much rather see a thing like Bay does where it's the canonica...

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I'm just going to flat-out state: I feel like that's only there to encourage validhunting, force them to fight the crew to live, etc. I would much rather see a thing like Bay does where it's the canonical first known contact or at least something where the changelings are treated as diverse individ...

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Currently, this thread is not in a reportable state due to minimal quantity of actual policy discussion. If you want me to prepare a report on this thread and attract headmin attention, stop talking about code matters. I don't report to the coders, and there's no point in telling the headmins about ...

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I would strongly recommend not putting any policy into effect for a week or two of mutantraces being enabled. Anything done in haste will result in policy designed to combat problems that will only be present in the initial frenzy of activity. Things will calm down and the novelty of space racism wi...

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From what you described, I can't see anything that'd lead to a jobban. The captain is permitted to act as security, and attempting to leave when the captain wanted you searched (likely on code blue, which explicitly allows for such) is rather suspicious. At worst, he caused a minor miscommunication,...

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>Invalid demotions Demotions are IC and should not be made an admin issue. But if you demote someone and they try to space/grief the shit out of you for it, adminhelp and we'll look into it. So a head demoting some random schmuck FNR is acceptable? I sure wouldn't want to removed from my chosen rol...

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There's a few glaring problems with "Have heads manage the chain of command IC": Power over another in SS13 comes by having better weaponry, or striking from ambush. Most heads of staff are NOT armed in any special way, and expecting them to hide in a closet with a weapon to demote a subor...

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Pandarsenic wrote:I suppose it'd be too much to ask "What's most fun for everyone"?

I'd love to have a polling method to get accurate results from everyone.
I'd love to have a way to quantify fun.

Care to share your methods?

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Firstly, please use the template. Secondly, I muted you from adminpm because I had rather clearly told you that what you needed to do was appeal and you weren't listening to me and were instead going on about how appealing was pointless.

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Laws four and six have rather glaring typos that makes them rather meaningless, as there's no such things as a "Captian" or "hHeads of Staff" on the station. The Captain was, according to what you say, attempting to modify the AI's laws. Law five denotes that to be treason. Law e...

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Come to think of it, there's also the option to remove the root of the matter by removing cloning from backup.

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Your solution is exactly what some people here, myself included, think is silly. Its an RP trap. You are forced to forget things and play in a way that is just no damn fun. Forget everything from that round? Just think of how you would need to act if you were restored from backup 1 hour into a long...

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A report on the previous thread and this thread up to this point has been created and delivered to the headmins. If activity in this thread continues, the report will be revised to account for such.

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