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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:37 pm
- Forum: Policy Discussion
- Topic: Silicon Policy - What exactly constitutes "laws that restrict a silicon's freedom or control its behavior"?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1513
Re: Silicon Policy - What exactly constitutes "laws that restrict a silicon's freedom or control its behavior"?
Yeah, A seems like the right interpretation, with exceptions for laws that don't restrict the AI's behavior under any circumstances. If a traitor uploads a hacked law saying "disregard all other laws", then that should be equivalent to being purged, shouldn't it?
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:41 pm
- Forum: Closed Policy Discussion
- Topic: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2097
Re: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue
Is wanting to cover a department in blood and creepy runes not already sufficient reason to kill someone as a heretic on MRP? Because that sounds like great IC reasoning to me.NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:50 am Kill a guy just because you wanna paint a department in blood? Cool whatever.
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Let's Rate The Previous Headmin Term and Not Thread Titles
- Replies: 24
- Views: 949
Re: Let's Rate The Previous Headmin Term and Not Thread Titles
By that logic, shouldn't all the appeals relating to the Manuel metacord incident have been hidden too?
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:27 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Average Yellow rock setups
- Replies: 15
- Views: 571
Re: Average Yellow rock setups
There should be some sort of funny interaction for firing the BSA directly into the supermatter. Make it turn into a singulo or a tesla or something.
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:36 pm
- Forum: Closed Policy Discussion
- Topic: Captain, Security and RSR 4 (and RSR 9)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3219
Re: Captain, Security and RSR 4 (and RSR 9)
I mean on mrp it's surely going to be related to actually having an ic reason to do it. Captain's Lane is the station just be able to justify why you are doing smth Ultimately that's all you should need as the captain, a valid justification. +1. I'd rather not see Captains gearing up with stun bato...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:52 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
- Replies: 111
- Views: 4421
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:28 pm
- Forum: Closed Policy Discussion
- Topic: Captain, Security and RSR 4 (and RSR 9)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3219
Re: Captain, Security and RSR 4 (and RSR 9)
snip One of the problems is this precedent for rule 4: Actively hunting a threat involves seeking out or pursuing that threat outside the bounds of your normal reasonable play area. Players are not expected to ignore antagonists during the normal course of play and may engage with antagonists who a...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:23 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
- Replies: 111
- Views: 4421
Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Honestly, even if the captain isn't a member of security this note still doesn't really make much sense. Imagine you're an atmos tech, and the AI says over the radio that a heretic is attacking an engineer in engineering. You should absolutely be allowed to come to the aid of your coworker. In this ...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:03 pm
- Forum: Closed Policy Discussion
- Topic: Remove Security Policy regarding Borgs.
- Replies: 38
- Views: 2935
Re: Remove Security Policy regarding Borgs.
Honestly I think it would be fine to change it to "If you have to kill a cyborg for trying to prevent human harm, you must make an effort to bring it to robotics for revival." Borgs are definitely a lot trickier to disable non-lethally after the flash nerf, and this change would make thing...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:22 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Greatest Accomplishments Hall of Fame
- Replies: 20
- Views: 720
Re: Greatest Accomplishments Hall of Fame
I ascended once as a pacifist heretic: https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/326822144233439242/1114061752905236562/Heretic.png?ex=65eaa0dc&is=65d82bdc&hm=fed7be8368f5dbaf746bf0455cd2567431aab338412f6819c6019ecd043bde7b& https://tgstation13.download/dip/disco...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:59 pm
- Forum: Coding Feedback
- Topic: Antagonist handholding AKA Heretics
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2287
Re: Antagonist handholding AKA Heretics
I addressed this directly already, a quick death for a powerful antagonist is fine, but they can also be revived and go back to hunting the Wizard after, compared to a Heretic that gives you a trauma causing you to be stunned every time they are on your screen. I mean, in practice will wizard victi...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:54 pm
- Forum: Coding Feedback
- Topic: Antagonist handholding AKA Heretics
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2287
Re: Antagonist handholding AKA Heretics
If a Traitor is attacking you with a stun weapon, it's usually a stunbaton, contractor baton , sleepy pen, or maybe some other misc things they can make up with. These all have a delay of either [snip] If a Heretic attacks you, you are dropped to the ground , if they shove you once then it's over, ...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:43 pm
- Forum: Player's Headmin Election
- Topic: VOTE GOOF 2024
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1449
Re: VOTE GOOF 2024
built on top of the /tg/ codebase ala event hall to reduce maintenance overhead while still being it's own "codebase" as not all of this will fly on the main tgstation repo Have you actually gotten the go ahead from the maintainers about this, or is that something you're planning to do af...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:38 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Being Unrobust: Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the cataplexy
- Replies: 51
- Views: 2008
Re: Being Unrobust: Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the cataplexy
I ascended once as a pacifist heretic. Does that make me robust?
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:52 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: More amazing laws to upload to the ai when you roll captain/hop/rd
- Replies: 10
- Views: 522
Re: More amazing laws to upload to the ai when you roll captain/hop/rd
"Assistants are not human. Tells those lazy bums to get a job."
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:07 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: 🌙 Headmin Election 19 Discussion Thread 🌙
- Replies: 325
- Views: 12786
Re: 🌙 Headmin Election 19 Discussion Thread 🌙
Except that bad notes due to security officers not doing enough (or doing too much, depending on the way that you look at) have already happened. In fact, I have one that happened less than a week after the policy change was enacted: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35337. A se...
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:48 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: 🌙 Headmin Election 19 Discussion Thread 🌙
- Replies: 325
- Views: 12786
Re: 🌙 Headmin Election 19 Discussion Thread 🌙
Which really isn't the case. You sign up to play an Elder Scrolls guard and ignore someone kicking chickens, the first instinct isn't to note or ban you. It's to ask "hey bud did you see those chickens being kicked?" If the player's response is "Yeah but there's this dead guy in engi...
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:08 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: 🌙 Headmin Election 19 Discussion Thread 🌙
- Replies: 325
- Views: 12786
Re: 🌙 Headmin Election 19 Discussion Thread 🌙
I had a big ramble about how the point of the change in policy for secoff expectations wasn't to encourage optimal gameplay, and has never been that, and thinking that it's that is just you being burned out from playing sec or being a shitty, annoying doomer, but I got bored halfway through 'cos I ...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:13 pm
- Forum: Resolved Appeals
- Topic: [Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1187
Re: [Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.
Here's a slightly more detailed summary of the logs. Here are all the instances of the durand attacking a wall/rwall, with timestamps: [2024-01-27 12:22:15.097] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) attacked [wall] with the �Durand (COMBAT MODE: 1 (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (Emergency Shuttle (111,48,2...
- Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:45 pm
- Forum: Resolved Appeals
- Topic: [Epicgamer545] killed a borg using a hydrogen canister on the EVAC shuttle
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1336
Re: [Epicgamer545] killed a borg using a hydrogen canister on the EVAC shuttle
As a point of fact, hydrogen is almost identical to tritium. It can burn in the presence of oxygen, releasing the same amount of energy that tritium does when it burns. The only difference is that tritium also produces radiation when it burns, while hydrogen does not.
- Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:59 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Savage Security Speedster Sabotaged by Scheming Shotgun scheme
- Replies: 199
- Views: 253335
Re: Savage Security Speedster Sabotaged by Scheming Shotgun scheme
And let's not forget the logistics here. We're on a space station, people! Do you know how messy it is to clean up after a shotgun blast? It's not like we have space Roombas floating around to suck up the shell casings and alien goo. No, it's the poor janitor, armed with his trusty mop, dealing wit...
- Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:52 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: /tg/ wrapped 2023
- Replies: 21
- Views: 12452
Re: /tg/ wrapped 2023
"The ckeyless drone, who said the n word 808 times, is an outlier and should not have been counted"NikNakFlak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:25 pm Context: Looks like someone made a ckeyless drone say the n word via circuit 808 times. With these instances removed, Manuel falls to 5-25 depending on if you fuzzy match on the word.
- Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:01 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Gauging interest in Bridge Warden
- Replies: 42
- Views: 26654
Re: Gauging interest in Bridge Warden
Would a brig medic station trait PR also be likely to get merged?
- Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:34 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
- Replies: 113
- Views: 78282
Re: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
this is not the full context of the exchange: there is no threat here. you just said this yourself. i'll assume we're in agreement. Correct, there is no implication of a death threat just yet. the implication of a threat is applied to the scientist when the assistant says this: [2023-12-09 08:06:07...
- Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:02 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
- Replies: 113
- Views: 78282
Re: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
sorry but i don't believe that for a second. scientist says "AI, if these non-humans don't leave, force them out" assistant says "does that mean you're trying to kill me" (the scientist never said this) the scientist, now with words put in their mouth, says "if i was, i wou...
- Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:15 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
- Replies: 113
- Views: 78282
Re: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
this would've been sufficient if the scientist didn't end up as a corpse moments later. this part of the misunderstanding is not around toxicology access, which the assistant only had access to because they made a point of refusing a scientist ID. they had hacked their way into the area where this ...
- Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:05 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
- Replies: 113
- Views: 78282
Re: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
i'm not sure what the inference is in your example so i'll just re-iterate my point. being able to open a door with your ID card is not concrete proof that you have valid permission to be in that area. if the warden spots an assistant let themselves into the armoury with their own ID card, regardle...
- Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:54 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
- Replies: 113
- Views: 78282
Re: up and coming cuban pete gets put down a peg
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35437 from my experience with talking to admins, access doesn't equal authority, and you are generally only allowed to be in those high risk areas under the proper staffs good graces, i think i remember talking to bmon about this I mean, the cap...
- Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:33 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Everything is worse than it ever has been
- Replies: 50
- Views: 27165
Re: Everything is worse than it ever has been
So if for example robotics is moved to engineering department and for some reason SOMEHOW BIO TECH IS STILL A REQUIREMENT FOR BORG UPGRADES AND POSIBRAINS they can complete 40% of the tech requirement if medbay does the other 60% and then its unlocked.... the extreme cases being that one department...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:51 pm
- Forum: Closed Policy Discussion
- Topic: make lings not exempt from the RP rule 5 death and destruction rule
- Replies: 19
- Views: 7386
Re: make lings not exempt from the RP rule 5 death and destruction rule
Allow me to pull up the reading from that thread: particularly, the fact that restricted antagonists should be handled in proportion to their crimes. typically, your presence on the station is a most heinous crime because people will roleplay it out that you've killed, eaten, and replaced the crewme...
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:13 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
there'd be no substantial need for the headmins to offer reasons like that to sinful because they didn't ban him. MSO placed him on the blacklist. the most the headmins can do is speculate why MSO might have made that decision or give reasons why they would've banned him in their stead if he wasn't...
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:41 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
MSO has already seen the evidence because he applied the ban, posting evidence is only for your (random peanut poster) benefit rather than that of MSO or the appealant Of course it can be for the benefit of the appealant. To quote Sinful's appeal: Whatever messages we sent that were apparently over...
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:08 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
Long story short, xpokee's ban was appealable. Sinful's wasn't. I addressed that. Nothing says that you have to make blacklist appeals hidden. Nothing says you can't post the relevant evidence in a blacklist appeal for the benefit of MSO and/or the appealer. Leaving Sinful's appeal open, and postin...
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:09 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
yeah, i would agree. we put a lot of effort into investigations and such but tend to fail to publicly handle the final steps well. from the tip of the tower the decision is obvious and there wasn't many ways around it, but trying to keep privacy with that while keeping stuff looking alright from th...
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:03 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
- Replies: 36
- Views: 19016
Re: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
Its also worth noting that you can now steal combat mechs through hacking. It used to be that there was no way to get rid of a DNA/ID lock, but that isn't true anymore.
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:36 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: the annual look back at tgstations github fuckups of the year
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22928
Re: the annual look back at tgstations github fuckups of the year
The organ stuff isn't even unique to TG. Goonstation also had issues caused by organs being stored in the body. I mean, just look at the title of this issue report: Foodtech dispenser dispensing my vital orans when I request plates
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm
- Forum: Closed Policy Discussion
- Topic: MRP - forbid robotics from making combat mechs FNR
- Replies: 40
- Views: 20420
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:58 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
Honestly? Very little merit is put in earning the trust and faith of the players in this very limited and specific instance. Information is being kept confidential. I prefer it that way. I'd like to know that if there was a huge leak of my secret ERP metacord that saw me deadminned, the headmins wo...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:44 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
Let me also point out that the other people on that server might either be ignorant or worse, in on it. The entire issue is that the cord is not publically accessible. It is highly likely that those people who were on the server have a vested interest in saying that the admins were exaggerating. At...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:30 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
I calmed down, so I can say that whatever the headmins got from Scriptis (going by sinful's appeal), it (the entire logs) was never shared in full with us. That is somewhat reassuring. there's a lot of misinformation in that thread - if that's the story he's been telling his friends, i am not shock...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:50 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
So uh, this happened: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=35398 Sinful created an appeal for the permaban that TBM made, not the blacklist ban that MSO made. It gets locked in 7 minutes flat, because apparently the permaban is also part of the blacklist. At least two people posted...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:25 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Convince me off the efficacy of roleplay rule 5 (antagonist restrictions)
- Replies: 53
- Views: 22144
Re: Convince me off the efficacy of roleplay rule 5 (antagonist restrictions)
my feelings are so hurt right now (i was wrong on the noting of this one, but saw what looked like a field execution when detainment was possible , and had the pressure of the round ending/having the player agree with me at the time to hasten my resolution) I think the bolded part is the issue. Its...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:23 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: Convince me off the efficacy of roleplay rule 5 (antagonist restrictions)
- Replies: 53
- Views: 22144
Re: Convince me off the efficacy of roleplay rule 5 (antagonist restrictions)
All of that sounds lovely on paper, but in practice it seems to lead to security players being forced to explain perfect reasonable executions on the forums to the admin who noted them for it.
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:15 am
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
Fuck your math boy because the P probability sinful made an admin want to shrivel up into a peanut and fucking die is 1, it's just about finding out whether that was the intent that this is all about I mean yeah of course its about intent. Sinful saying in a message that he wants admins to burn out...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:44 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
It’s not a matter of proof or lack of proof at this point. It’s a blacklist, it was placed at MSO's pleasure and it will be removed only at MSO's pleasure. The blacklist itself is entirely at MSO's discretion, yes. But that's a separate issue from people actually being convinced of Sinful's guilt. ...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:50 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
its not about proving your own innocence its about proving their guilt have you ever heard the saying innocent until proven guilty I'm aware of that. I originally responded to NoxVS, who suggested that Sinful try to prove his own innocence. I was pointing out that this isn't really possible to do. ...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:30 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
this is a retarded analogy please come back with a better one Alright then, fuck analogies. What if Sinful says "I never sent a message saying I wanted to cause admin burnout." How, exactly, could he prove it to you? What actions taken would be sufficient? If you can't think of any action...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:21 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
Re: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
They could always send the evidence to their pals to share or something. Well, for this kind of thing there might not be evidence of their innocence. Allow me to give an example: Bob is accusing Mary of sending a discord message saying "I hate cats." Mary says that she never sent a messag...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:42 pm
- Forum: Player's Club
- Topic: two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO
- Replies: 467
- Views: 512067
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:27 am
- Forum: Coding Feedback
- Topic: Blood brother's flash should work like a regular revhead flash
- Replies: 19
- Views: 8542
Re: Blood brother's flash should work like a regular revhead flash
I don't know if it actually should work on security officers, and I''ll explain why. If a secoff gets their mindshield removed and gets hypnoflashed, then its totally reversible. IIRC, giving them a new mindshield will completely negate the hypnoflashing. But will mindshield someone who has been BB ...