/tg/Station 13

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"...Those who threaten the integrity of the station as a whole are to be no longer considered human, and are threats to the station which must be neutralized." I really do like this interpretation. It keeps the original spirit of the law while restraining it to serious, intentional (or neg...

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The ban isn't for shaving people or harassing them, it's for metacommunication.

Are you saying that wasn't the case?

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Someone runs naked unto the bridge yelling "HELP" and "I'M THE RD" and your response is to pull your gun then stun, cuff, and beat them to death with your baton. Regardless of what was happening with the Captain (who obviously wasn't much of a threat if you had time to do all thi...

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To change the subject a bit... ProtectStation is absolutely terrible. Had a bit of a discussion about it in ASAY after an AI had someone killed over a floor tile being pulled up. Can we get rid of it, or better yet, have better writing for the law so nobody can conclude that simple maintenance and d...

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The only real issue i have is how you went about it. Sure he was being an annoyance, but that doesn't call for summary execution. As for being out of options, well, when I picked up on this chase you were shooting lethals at him through the windows into a main hallway. He got to escape and hid in a ...

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Why not. Never got a chance to mess around with this when it was cool.

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After some consideration I don't think it's worth killing a new players for their repeat offense. I'll lift your ban today.

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Since this they've demonstrated similar poor behavior in further rounds and received a command ban for it. While I don't exactly agree with how it was dealt with I'll accept Reid's player is in no way fit to be in charge of any department, or the ship. I'll lift the ban, if anything remains of it, i...

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All things you could have at least made an effort to communicate IC. Again I apologize for the false implication of his ban description. That's referring to the ban you and Lug received previously. No matter how harmless it's distressing to see metacommunicating almost immediately after it was remov...

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I hate having to do this to a genuinely new player, but the guys you were with had just gotten off a ban for doing it. That they'd bring you into the game literally a day after their ban to teach you via metacommunication, the same thing they'd been told not to do, is kind of a massive red flag for ...

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It boils down to this. Your reasons for demoting him, another player in a goofy spaceman game, are entirely based around the fact that he sucks as a player. Since this is a roleplaying game that isn't cool. It's being a dick to him because you don't like the way he plays, essentially. Your arguments...

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Excuse me then, I misinterpreted your meaning of "messages", but if you were announcing it that's just as meta and plain dickish.

Sicking Beepsky on the thief while you go threaten the Captain is not dealing with him (and yes, backing up your threat with an egun is doing it at gunpoint)

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I won't argue that the Captain was a sharp tool, he's clearly inexperienced as you insist. As we discussed however that's not an appropriate reason for him to be demoted at gunpoint by the HoS. The Centcomm report lists several threats and the only reason you could have for getting upset about him t...

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I'm well aware, and let me reiterate; 1. That's retaliation. You can't justify innocent two deaths and the loss of a department because he might have harmed someone else. 2. The bombs and fire, in retrospect , (since you couldn't possibly have known when you opened the valve) are a piss-poor excuse ...

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If I accepted good intentions as an excuse for bombing we'd see it every round, also what "might have happened" after your bomb is absolutely irrelevant. Longer than them? You got a three-day ban for killing two innocent people and detonating the entire R&D department. You're extremely...

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Well considering I was standing in R&D when your bomb went off... I assure you research was perfectly fine before that. If the only thing you have to stop a murderer is a bomb then you simply can't justify using it at the cost of other lives and the station's welfare. There's no "greater go...

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I think that thread and others like it serve to point out how much of a bad idea bomb-warnings are; the person in question obviously kept doing it. That said, yep, pretty much. I'm sorry but you can't take out all of RnD because someone is attacking you. Innocent people died, research was lost and t...

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Nebyab outlines my concerns here very nicely. I intend to stand by this ban.

Regardless of what happened with Ian's kidnapping a harm-enabling fart lawset is just plain terrible.
Please don't mess with the AI/crew like that. It's a pretty huge abuse of your authority as the HoP/acting Captain.

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Just to clarify here the problem isn't necessarily that you were spacing bodies, it's that you were stopping people pulling corpses toward medbay in order to steal and space them. I'd never fault a Chaplain for trying to do their job but it seemed to me that you were just looking for an excuse to us...

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Fair enough, I'll admit when I've been hasty and outright foolish.

There was a far more malicious picture painted by the investigation. That said, please don't use chemist as an excuse to do the Clown's job.
Lifting this as we speak.

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What sticks with me here is that the logs show you approaching him and starting the disarming/bike-horning first. This isn't anything to make you "valid" normally but I can understand throwing a few punches if its getting in the way of healing someone, which it was. You guys scuffle a bit ...

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Watched the entire thing start to finish. You got LSD stung and jumped on what is essentially a random player, chasing him down to medbay and killing him while he tried to protest. The guy never laid a harmful hand on you or anyone in the lynch-mob. You then told everyone with ears he was a Ling, le...

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I'll admit the disconnection might have been outside your power, still, revealing the roundtype is the worst form of IC/OOC.

Lowering this to a more reasonable duration.

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MisterPerson wrote:Any plans on scheduling another one?

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Everything. Fun is poison to me.

In all seriousness though... Anyone in Sec. who pulls a gun on their fellow officers/superiors without a damn good reason.

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Anyone who isn't AFKing (whether in a closet or together in the dorms) is participating adequately in the round. The only thing I'd ever suggest banning is obvious ERP. Defined by, let's say for example, explicit sex being emoted between two people in private. Your kisses, slutty remarks, ass-pattin...

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I can understand where the ruling might have come from.

Scientists are expected to have/work with bombs because plasma research, an atmos-tech not so much. There's no real IC reasoning for it.

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Again, ghosts shouldn't be forced to participate in ERP or leave the game/be effectively blind or deaf to avoid it. I feel that most of you are missing the point here, this isn't some dramatic battle over the rights of an oppressed minority. The question is whether or not the benefits of allowing pe...

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We have a maximum amount of jobs, people who antag-roll and AFK are punished. You guys can pick me apart all day but I still haven't heard a selfless reason for why we should keep it. A real benefit for the server at large. (Going to quell my argumentative nature unless further points are directed t...

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As an admin? Every couple days; usually for between 2~3 rounds per individual couple. (Some will literally be at it all night) That's not fair to the average perspective though since I ghost far more. I call it Pro-ERP because that's what it is. If you're defending people's right to ERP just because...

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I don't think anyone would get banned, because they're not in-game wasting two or more slots to AFK in the dorms. Despite apparent popular belief I do feel that we need logical reasons to justify ERP. There are zero benefits for anyone not involved. It's annoying, disruptive, and literally only exis...

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I'll bite, let me do my best to address each individual concern. Basically, whenever one is considering banning something that isn't outright griefing, the burden of proof is not "why should this be allowed here?" but "why should this be disallowed"? And the only arguments anyone...

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I'm sure we've all, in some form or another, partaken in a sexually-charged exchange of text. Honestly don't care how you want to wank/schlick it. The simple facts here are that it contributes nothing to the round, causes problems for the crew and shoves your lesbian fantasies in the faces of people...

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I don't think the people you killed would describe it as "helping." Your history on the station goes, roughly; a ban for bombing as a nonantag, a warning for firebombing to try and hurt people, and yet another (very long) ban for nonantag bombing. To be plain I don't think you're being hon...

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[05:24:12]GAME: traitors: Lauser McMauligan(CENSORED), Jake Black(CENSORED), Clown Ambassador(CENSORED), John Wolfe(CENSORED), Andres King(CENSORED), Percival Kiefer(CENSORED), Schlomo Gaskin(CENSORED). Last time I checked people breaking into your department (or the bridge in this case, I guess) we...

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But sawrge has a good point. The fact that the majority of people don't know about the blatant misuse of authority to get rid of someone because he said meaningful constructive criticism is absolutely atrocious. Just because it's hurtful doesn't mean it's not true. He and everyone else can have goo...

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Daily reminder that "daily reminders" are a meaningless trope and the epitome of shitposting. No offense but Neerti doesn't really know the code. He's a decent coder and probably has the potential (I don't get to decide those things though, just a personal opinion) to become a tg maintaine...

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Metafriend, in general, is the wrong word to use for what Anon was trying to start a riot over. It's the general exclusionary attitude from Artyom regulars and "celebrities" except blown out of proportion. Like it or not there are several cliques and a number of instances over the months o...

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Believe me I don't fault you for the construction, it's excellent. I doubt it would have been any sort of problem if there weren't casualties. That said it's not really the other player's responsibility to avoid your implied death-machine. It's a chance you take with things that can cause collateral...

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I'm not insisting anyone is making Scaredy's plans up. As I said in the start of this thread, the form they'll take isn't really up for debate by us and most people's opinions have been made clear regarding how public votes aren't a good thing. There's no vote running right this second. The opening ...

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That sounds excellent, thanks for creating the opportunity you guys.

Hope we'll see that platform being used for some productive discourse.

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How do people in this thread manage to keep drawing "defense of the popularity contest" and "justifying the people in the lead" when I've literally said in every one of my posts that public votes don't work, and shouldn't be used. That alongside presenting HG as a strong candidat...

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Paprika, for once in my life I'm completely lost on something nice to say. I'm going to do the most stupid* thing and respond directly. In the words of some of my more abrasive colleagues, please fuck off. There's no point to arguing how an election that's not happening the way you insist shouldn't ...

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Now we're getting somewhere! It would be interesting to see where some of our other candidates fall on the subject of metagamers/meta-cliques. To those who suggest it's unimportant who we elect; I'd say that even this conversation is preferable to blindly voting for whoever provided you with the mos...

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None of these admins are leaders. They all are either uncharismatic, biased, impartial, un-empathetic, or un-dutiful. Not that they are bad people, but they don't have the character to lead imo. Well, why do you feel that way? Is there anybody on the list here that you'd trust in the position at al...

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Since the previous one turned out to be over a false poll... I'd like to open an outlet for direct, relevant praise/feedback/criticism/questions to, or regarding, our potential Headmin candidates. Antonkr Deuryn Hornygranny Ikarrus Neerti Pandarsenic Elyina Fateweaver(?) There's presently no place f...

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Remember that part about "shouldn't be running at all" Paprika? It's as much the burden of those responding to criticism as those creating it. I'd rather have people bringing up their issues with potential Headmin candidates in the Headmin Thread than another discussion full of empty polit...

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Again, nobody is pointing fingers here, at least I'm not. This ISN'T the time or the place for that. I understand what they're getting at but you can't have it both ways. Absolutely not. Either stick to the facts and quit >implying about all the "problem-administrators" or stop pretending...

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