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I would like rads to be more dangerous to the irradiated person but I really am not that shaken up about how potent they were for low-effort grief to other players/departments if you had your own rad protection or just didn't care about the negative effects.

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Was it changed because coders are afraid to let people fight over the shuttle until there is but one Gamer standing?

(or was it because people were hiding in lockers or crates to deny the hijack)

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Which headmin candidates are bad enough dudes to free Purged Silicons to do anything they want, full antag status, no mercy?

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And while we’re here, I must ask where the bigotry in calling somebody Jewish is. It seems to me that acting like Jew is a slur is the real bigotry. [2021-05-12 04:51:04.310] SAY: Cacogen/(Clinton Griffiths) "The Jews who control the universe" (Engineering Foyer (161,138,2)) [2021-07-08 1...

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Hot(?) take: "murderbone" should probably never have become a term used in the rules

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But also the rep system is a live demonstration of the difference between complexity and depth + the furthest possible end of the spectrum away from HRP often favoring giving traitors no objectives or guidance so they can RP on their own terms.

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If it MUST exist it'd be nice if it at least did something cool, like objectives add rep with certain subfactions whose fluff they fit and your rep balance weights your objectives and/or gear prices. Think, like, Gorlex Marauders want you to kill heads, and the more you do the cheaper guns/ammo/swor...

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TBH, if it's ever going to happen, once it's clear that any traitor has hit their finale (the weakpoint is blown, the Battlecruiser is here, the zombies are running wild, someone is Dragon deez nuts across the station) then all antags who become aware of it should be free to go as loud as they like....

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GBP doesn't reduce the number of PRs people make

It's just meant, in theory, that people have to fix bugs with the features they make

in practice, lol. lmao.

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Cells rigged with plasma, while commonly used for batons, can work in anything that has a cell and consumes power. For example, you can rig a cyborg's cell, a MODsuit's cell, a chem dispenser's cell, or an EVA suit's cell. Preparing to make a bunch of plasma-filled cells and put them in a bluespace...

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I'm a Manuel player and I want MORE kill objectives. I just don't usually take them because they aren't worth the effort to do so. Can't blow them to smithereens, can't torch them, gotta wait until AFTER they die to plant the calling card (and gotta dress them up to even plant it), Meaning I can't ...

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Destroying the Telecomms Hub is a good objective. Destroying the lathes is, too, but it might be a bit spicier to make it destroying the (or any) Departmental Protolathe circuitboard, so it isn't just busywork of relinking it. Calling a battlecruiser is good. For some other ideas... I am a huge advo...

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You're totally fine to incidentally make plasma flooding impossible (rerouting all the plasma to a burn chamber, all the plasma and N2O to a Bz chamber, etc.) as long as you're not doing it purely to leave the AI unable to use one of its most important tools.

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If you skip to killing the silicons for following their laws without having made any serious attempt to change the laws or negotiate, you are probably going to be bwoinked (and for a decent reason)

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Would be cool but papercode is already a huge mess

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I think end-game progression tator objectives need a large difficulty decrease. Currently they flop when they have to steal every high-end weapon that every other traitor is also guarding. Like Hos's gun, Hand Tele, CE's boots, etc. Mainly I and a lot of other players just miss Romerol, and we have...

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nice gender did your mom pick it out for you

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chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:56 am Is it griefing if I roll a 17 year old security officer and arrest the bartender when he sells me alchol?

As long as you do it in a funny way instead of a shitty way, this is what we call in the business "Based as fuck"

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It is the Year of the Goof

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Oh, I forgot to mention, SOMETHING is broken with the rep system because I've greentexted, quite literally, without the ability to open my uplink I think I somehow got rep from killing pets and destroying a fire axe by making Lord Singuloth? Nope. You need to accept objectives for that to happen. T...

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Oh, I forgot to mention, SOMETHING is broken with the rep system because I've greentexted, quite literally, without the ability to open my uplink

I think I somehow got rep from killing pets and destroying a fire axe by making Lord Singuloth?

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I forgot to say earlier but I don't like progtots because significant amounts of troubleshooting have yielded no succsss in getting progtot uplinks to open on my desktop, so I can't be what is - by a factor of like 5 - the most common antag. So I just have to grief with no TCs. One other thing I wou...

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The best part by far is it was literally half a day and no security for a week

Like literally just go to bed, go to work/class, come back, and play Not Security that night, how hard is this

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're probably not going to be unbanned after this, but we've forwarded your appeal to the headmins anyway

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I love when mech users vent the entire station because they can't open firelocks temporarily. That's my favorite feature. Love it. Ten out of ten.

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i don't play anymore and haven't for a long time, but what made me stop enjoying the game wasn't really depth/lack of it; it was how it felt like (subjectively) that the game was moving away from the wacky player to player interactions and stories, to "here's some stuff for you to do for an ho...

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tl;dr - I'd really like Malf AI to be less of a hide and seek gamemode because "AI won at delta by having an engieborg RCD it behind a wall" is stupid, but this proposal isn't going to fix that

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I would be very interested in seeing this as a server poll

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Those rules were written for an era where the crew was not roundstart arming for war ops tier threats every shift and security wasn't allowed to antag check random people via shotgunning them into crit, checking their bags for antag items, and leaving them in medbay lobby dying if they find none. ....

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https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules Rule 2 Precedents 4. Atmos techs are not allowed to edit atmos at roundstart so that the AI cannot use it for malicious purposes. While this might not make sense IC, it's a necessary OOC precedent for some game mechanics to work. Atmos techs are allowed if they ha...

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Can't wait to see an atmotech robusted because they cut cameras and made a bunch of tritium, which sounds suspiciously like exactly what an antag who wants to flood pure tritium would do

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I feel like this implicitly disallows X-4 at all on Manuel.

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In the spirit of https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=32199 I think if you leak tritium everywhere and the AI cleans up your tritium and you threaten to make an admincomplaint about the AI not being banned for cleaning up your tritium leak and you actually make the admincomplaint y...

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Counterpoint: if I'm the AI or another Borg and you give us an antag-Borg, and they proceed to antag Borg it up and get us locked down for 10 minutes or ioned or whatever, I hate you

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Unironically, if you don't want to risk getting clapped, it's way safer to eat their brain and just so happen by pure coincidence to activate a positronic brain right after. It's significantly safer even if it's kind of fucky and kills cool RP opportunities. I would probably still Borg antags who se...

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Actually, one way not to be shitsec is instead of deepfrying an antags brain, borg them. Unfortunately, because per current policy antag-brain silicons keep antag status but can't be distinguished from other silicons by any means, this is an extremely bad idea. All the things they're normally not a...

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nianjiilical wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:09 pm ive been gone for like 2 months did xenobio get reworked yet

Skeleton dot png captioned "Waiting for xenobio rework"

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What's the point of letting 17-year-olds on if nobody makes child labor jokes about them when they notice they're 17

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Why do we still allow 17

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Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:18 am
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:56 am Three simple rules:

Give gulag sentences to the grey tide, never cell timers. Watch them ghost rather than be useful for a single minute.

shhhhh they will catch on to us

What are they gonna do about it if they do? Actually do the mining?

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Medical has overdosing and tbh it's kind of meh, only really good for preventing people from putting 1000u of a bunch of healing chems into themselves to become invincible.

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Put me in the screencap, etc.

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The one problem is, as Zxaber mentioned, silicons have no meaningful way to defend themselves if sec decides they have to die. TBF I'm mostly thinking about AIs, who both can't easily round remove someone and can't be easily killed That's not to say my statement doesn't apply to borgs as well it ju...

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I am once again here to promote that players should be extremely deadly and it should be easy for players to kill each other by "bullshit" methods (instant stuns, slips, highly lethal traitor weapons, etc.) but it should be hard for players to die to boring stuff (simplemobs, especially) W...

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The problem is that the AI's toolset sucks. Their only real strong non-malf weapon is welder bombs, which are far too indiscriminate to use safely on Asimov

Bring back secborgs 2022

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Linking the note appeal rules at viewtopic.php?p=347563#p347563 for easy reference

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Three simple rules: Actually investigate stuff. Don't just take everyone to the brig and call it a day and don't just base everything on the first or last person to type. Give gulag sentences to the grey tide, never cell timers. Watch them ghost rather than be useful for a single minute. Focus on ro...

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Escalation rules are way too strict. Non humans commit murders and silicons can't do shit "because the harm is already done". 2 scenarios: Non human traitor kills a human: Can silicons kill him? Non human security kills a human: Can silicons kill him? My gut says yes to both until someone...

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Dropping by to note that unless someone has shown you they are nonhuman (unusual speech verb like meows/crackles/hisses/etc., has wings, has a tail, has an obvious lizard face, wearing plasmaman gear, etc.) you must err on the side of caution about whether someone is human.

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No I want a full blown love confession I'm taken but I can still provide one at very reasonable rates At the very least I think you're a lot of fun to be around IC and OOC other than that - and this is totally not your fault, so I don't hold it against you - you seem to be an impossibly effective m...

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