/tg/Station 13

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I think that increasing the effort to obtain golems (5 adamantium bars instead of one) and reducing the base stats a bit would help.

However, the special golems do take 10 sheets of mineral, which amounts to 20000 of the selected material, which isn't that cheap.

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To be honest, i never realized you could pick shells up, putting them in backpacks is definitely unintended.

D&B they used to make golems before there even were mining golems

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Oh hey, always up for more golems! Many of those suggestions are redundant or lacking a cool gimmick (the gibtonite golem shares the explosion with the plasma golem, for example), but the sinew floating golem seems like a nice addition As for surgical wonders, i feel like the Voice of God is sadly v...

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Damn, this is huge, and works for traitor implants apparently

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I really like the library layout, it feels just right for some reason. On the other hand, the stairs right in front of the RnD door seem out of place, even a semirealistic workplace wouldn't have a staircase two steps past the entrance. They should ideally be on a niche in the wall somewhere, or on ...

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AnturK was suggesting replacing virology with something like this. I'm starting to see his point - virology has far more potental as an antag tool/external threat than as a station job, and it'd be nice to see an op/abductor virologist role that prepares viruses to unleash as a weapon. Organs, unlik...

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When they worked for regen, there was no expiration limit for implanting, only for eating them. Surgery does offset a lot of item power, but looking at cyberimplants they require surgery AND high research levels/minerals, for generally less power than constant regen and the emp downside.

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Very very abusable. Even if it's just view variables without edit, it lets you see all kinds of hidden information.

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On the other hand, regen is pretty damn valuable considering it comes from the easiest mob in lavaland

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I just know that playing viro for a long period i always had the impression that the RNG got "stuck" on a certain set of results, which shifted very slowly over time. Effectively this meant that to get the full set of symptoms i wanted i had to take a break of 5-10 minutes for the set to c...

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I bet if traitors could buy pulse rifles at 5 tc there would still be people saying "i ded pls nerf" and "git gud" when someone tries to nerf them

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For my part, i'm starting to write up indepth about game mechanics; i already wrote up the https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Health page, and i'm going to add Status effects for stuns and such, differences between complex and simple mobs, how chemicals work, and so on.

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A flesh golem sprite - the best would be a thickly built humanoid built with stitched meat, but pretty much anything would be better than using the ling fleshsuit. Since human sprites are built out of single limbs, it'd be awesome if the sprite was already divided instead of full (i can still cut it...

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also what happened to cross server news

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It would only work in melee anyway, no?

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There is also a space ruin which is basically a fake space tile in space, which gives a pulse rifle when clicked

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Better idea: a scanner tool that would scan a target and copy his clothes on your chamkit

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Now that stats matter the transmission penetration bonus started showing up. I'll check infection code, i'll try to make it more reasonable.

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Cough has a threshold effect where it spreads on cough if the virus is airborne, maybe the check is not working properly

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revenants should be able to click on a bedsheet to become permanantly visible but now you're a SPOOKY GHOST HOLY SHIT Rework reventant into a poltergeist that gets the power of interacting with stuff like this to spook people, instead of the current ghost hobo that tries to eat scraps off the curre...

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i suppose you could close the SSU while the core is inside and it'll act like a locker

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I'm also 90% sure it remembers your dna from the time of the scan, meaning that if you get mutated into a plasmaman and get cloned from a record you'll be back to human. A new scan would overwrite this, of course.

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we should to be able to build body shells in robotics (which would be a completely dismembered robotic chest, i suppose) which could eventually become an android once fully built. People wouldn't have to wait several minutes for a full aug anymore!

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Thats why it got removed from being applicable on dead bodies. Augments work well though in its place for repairing damage and allowing bodies to be repaired even if they are hideous bloody mess. Fun fact: Synthflesh now works again on dead bodies (styptic and silver sulf still don't). Another meth...

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Unless you're using the CMO's belt defib, you'll be swapping out your backpack for the defib, setting up to defib them, maybe even taking time to remove a hard suit. And that's if you already have one on hand. People wearing augments, implants, or genetic powers, will all appreciate being defibbed ...

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I suppose, but i don't really know how that is happening in the first place... i guess i'll try those steps out

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I think in another thread the "powergame" problem was identified more as a lack of sportmanship. To make an example, if you examined someone and you saw their backpack as "chameleon backpack", despite it being identical to a normal one, would you: A - Ignore it B - Tell the guy a...

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Maybe this is the kind of problem that can be solved by chucking ideas at the wall to see what sticks. The notion of a slight, cumulative improvement to next antag rate based on... - Playing a round to its completion - Without suiciding - Without ghosting from a living mob - Without being killed by...

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It's definitely overcomplicated if we're going to go with that as its purpose. You could put a high-risk scan option in the classic DA to fill that niche, and give the room to something more deserving.

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Oh you were correct there. No difference between t5 + t7 and just t7, so if you need the boost sell the t5 and do the rest later. Also what kind of scientist thinks they can get t7 consistently?

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Basically you sell the research levels themselves, if you already sold T4 you only get money for T5 onwards. So might as well max them first to save time.

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I can't reproduce this. I tried mutating, removing symptoms, neutering, and creating culture bottles both named and non. How long ago was the screenshot? I did fix a bug with IDs some time ago, might've been that.

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The fat warning appears before the actual disability, if i remember correctly. As for eating it while full, you can grind it with a reagent grinder, and drink it as a reagent to bypass the limit. You can also do this with sugar to gain nutrition after being full.

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How is not actually doing any of your own work in any way interesting? If you have to potentially sacrifice something in order to achieve progress on something, that can be a comprehensive system that allows for a wide range of possible situations where you have to make various decisions about what...

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I like this, i remember when there was literally someone named DOOM GUY with seemingly no repercussion.

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Any feedback on the latest hallucination update? It should've solved the issue of hallucinations happening way too often, preventing stunlocks, it added several new hallucinations and made existing ones more believable. Also added another contextual hallucination: try using a chem dispenser while ha...

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Something went wrong with disease ids i suppose. I'll get a fix out soon.

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Goddamn disease id system. Did you make a new culture bottle and it scrambled the virus?

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It seems to be a 0 to 9, from the code, unless i'm missing a +1 in the process somewhere

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As for its lethality, I'm not sure if it's still around, but I do remember seeing things like 6-7 people all in the middle of medbay stunlocked because a disease was causing them to puke blood repeatedly every 2 seconds until they died. This was airborne. I need to do testing to see if current viro...

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Xenobio can give you frost oil and slime toxin (if not outright dangerous shit like plasmaman or black slime toxin), and with a little rnd you can make chem dispensers for the rest.

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Basically, diseases 'tick' once every two seconds. Viruses now have an amount of 'ticks' between each activation. Issue is, i thought these ticks were every second, and when i wanted to put a one minute cooldown on a symptom i actually made it two minutes. Also, healing symptoms that were supposed t...

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Turns out that diseases tick once every two seconds and i misbalanced the numbers, so virology is about half as effective as intended. PR to fix is up.

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Lazengann wrote:Yeah putting the 8 healing symptoms on was enough to survive space for a long while, the same approach today leaves you in crit pretty quickly.

The healing and timing is unchanged. Now i'm worried there's a bug with the virus timing.

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I think that the virus that outhealed space with uranium symptoms was the one post-uranium, pre-first rework. A triple stacked uranium+normal healing virus was something to behold, it healed from crit to full in a few seconds, and i remember a round where i just kept shocking myself on an electrifie...

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You're kinda ignoring that it used to be a 8-14 per activation on a 5% activation chance, making it technically lower than the current 1 per tick (without thresholding it). At 14 each with three viruses it'd amount to ~2.1 healing per second, while now you can have 1 of each (~50% of before) or up t...

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I did not change any numbers in healing symptoms. The only difference is that they can now be upgraded, unlike they could before, and the symptom limit should not matter if your 7th and 8th pick would previously be eye healing and dna or sensory restoration, which are very marginally useful. So eith...

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bandit wrote:The station blueprints contain a guide to the wire colors.

This is also true for engiborg blueprints, and you can law 2 em if you want to know them easily.

Fun fact: cerulean blueprints (the one use blueprints in xenobio) also have the wire map.

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You can also attach devices to it to do stuff like saying a password to open the door, setting up a sensor further back so it's open by the time you reach it, tie it to a wall button, and so on.

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So long as any of those hallucinations are a subtle change or are an absence of something. Current hallucinations are just "Oh great, time to get beaten up by a not-player, then eaten by the singularity, then die, then wabbajack, then plasma coming out of the vents, then see a blob warning or ...

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