/tg/Station 13

Void Slayer

Actually, getting out of silicon hate is really easy if it sees you execute someone. Step 1 is admit fault on yourself and no one else in sec. Step 2 is agree to be demoted and removed from security. Step 3 is a face change surgery and new sec ID. Step 4 Murder next greytider. Repeat. Also if the he...

Void Slayer

If we do implement more organs then selling them via cargo would be a really good idea, just get some cargo points for them. Now imagine a rev round where the heads of staff have hold up in cargo and are cutting open living assistants for their organs, good times. Why not make a dedicated implant ma...

Void Slayer

What if the light mechs were based on the janitor carts or segways, where you can see and attack people but it is harder to do so and you get some extra abilities? As a bonus we can remove the janitor carts and segways and replace them with a janitor mech. I would like to see botany added to R&D...

Void Slayer

Since we have positronic brains this whole discussion is pretty meaningless.

If you want to come back as a non-malf AI just die and go into a positronc brain, you get the same opportunity any other dead/captured antag would.

Void Slayer

Was ERP a problem before these three lizards? If not we might have found the real issue. Or just ban it I do not really care, but I guess most people who support ERP might be for removing those who abuse it so much it gets banned. A very tailored and well crafted rule like "Stop fucking every g...

Void Slayer

The meat freezer room has no lights, making me think Pete the goat is a shadowling. The bar setup is.. wasteful, all that table space just sitting around. I would prefer a smaller corridor outside, 3 tiles wide, put a line of tables facing outward towards the corridor and then have other tables in t...

Void Slayer

Demanding that people who have antagonistic role play objective foisted on them then criticizing how they choose to go about it is a dark path we should not really go down. We do not force other antags to act in ways we want to give them freedom to make the round interesting, besides not screwing ov...

Void Slayer

I think something helpful would be a simple addendum to head of staff rules basically requiring you to resign from important positions to go on away missions. The only downside is changeling/sacrifice objectives where the target fucks off into a gateway and gets himself trapped.. or takes traitor ob...

Void Slayer

Medbay and cargo seem too large, really genetics and chemistry should be combined into one job and two linked rooms.

A second garden area would be a good use of space.

Maybe also a not yet set up solar panel area, like a lattice and wires but no solar panels yet.

Void Slayer

How about: just make bombing the equivalent of perma brig or execution, you need a damn good reason and if the chain of command is in place you need captain or HoS approval.

Void Slayer

For the standardized cent com z-level issue, what about making part of the cent com z-level that consists of a "map specific area" that might vary from map to map but will always be in the same general place so the rest of it is the same?

Void Slayer

Just make the dominators impossible to destroy completely, so that if the gang retakes control of the area they can reactivate it to start the countdown again. That way they can not get infinite chances to make new bases, but they can seize control of a base and start trying a takeover without losin...

Void Slayer

What if you could switch between various "installed items" and your normal hand like a changeling using arm blade?

Void Slayer

Spy/Ninja Wars Two or more teams of antags are placed on the station recruited from normal crew with five members each. They would have special traitor uplinks and equipment thematically appropriate, something like weaker versions of normal ninja gear and James Bond spy gear. The catch is they woul...

Void Slayer

The AEGIS suit! It projects a 100HP forcefield bubble when activated, slowly regenerating from an internal power cell when not in combat. All projectiles and melee attacks do full damage, whereas tasers deal 20 and disablers deal half the damage. EMPs can disable the shield entirely, stunning the w...

Void Slayer

Malf AIs should be able to detonate drones as a power.

Poison glasses, look like regular drinking glasses but do not show hazardous chemicals when examined.

Explosive suicide monkeys in traitor uplinks.

Void Slayer

If you want to make medical shit artificially scarce just bomb burn steal it. That is why people target medbay with fire and bombs every round they go off. Is it so hard to believe that the one thing Nanotansen does right is have a well stocked medbay? Also a well stocked medbay is a double edged sw...

Void Slayer

Which map is this an issue on? Most maps I have seen has botany close to medbay anyway even if it is across a hallway.

Botany needs to be right next to the kitchen to take advantage of the kitchen vegetable vending machine, unless you build a new delivery system.

Void Slayer

Not every time but yeah. Also there can be more targets then lings.

Void Slayer

Yeah obviously explain why to sec and get permission from captain or HoS for anything major, give them a chance to explain or defend themselves, you know, all the normal stuff your suppose to do during sentencing... Hell, if people can give a half decent excuse without frothing at the mouth with gre...

Void Slayer

I do like lings specifically not having each other as targets. So you can cooperate and at least you know any backstabbing isn't for greentext. If the lings got a teamish objective, like each ling had a specific head/department member to impersonate, it might still be fun. But the complete team thin...

Void Slayer

Uhhh if you want to safely get the bombs, just get heat aura from genetics and grab a bombsuit.

RDs should know this stuff.

Void Slayer

How about if you do not want to play a job that is giving out books to people don't play the job that is giving out books to people? You can run role playing games, fill the shelves with books, hand out books in departments, hand out books to specific people, run book clubs, read books on comms, run...

Void Slayer

What if you dropped a 10 minute unrecallable shuttle and dropped a bunch of random traitors. It would allow the rounds to end 'normally' with a shuttle ride/celebration and allow some extra gameplay afterwards. As it is though I think the extra time is not productive in most cases. No one rebuilds, ...

Void Slayer

If someone helps a criminal escape, I consider them an accomplice to the original crime. IF that involves perma then I will ask the captain or HoS to back me up on it. You can also give them a perma sentence, suspend it, then put them on parole, telling them if they do any more major crimes they go ...

Void Slayer

Thank you for the responses this really helps give context. Normally I consider lizards as helpful xenos who are able to prevent harm thanks to their working with humans so unless they actually cause harm I am going to dismiss law 2 orders to murder and prevent them from doing their jobs. Assistant ...

Void Slayer

Slipping causes human harm, if a janitor or clown lizard is repeatedly hurting humans like this it seems like the AI has to intervene. Normally I am a pretty laid back AI with regards to lizards and when this came up so far I basically asked them to stop and told security. But if someone tells me to...

Void Slayer

There is not really anything preventing you from recognizing multiple authority figures either. If the head clown keeps the clown mob in check, the HoS mows down assistants with his team and the death cult arena gang respects the CE you could follow the orders of all three. A good tyrant though woul...

Void Slayer

Was there an existing HoS? Did the station need a HoS? Did any command staff object? Was there a captain or command structure in place TO object? If an AI is being given orders by a human without any countermanding orders it needs to fulfill them. If it is uncertain it would be reasonable to get a s...

Void Slayer

In an emergency I just chuck random guns at people over the warden counter and threaten to beat them if they misuse them.

Always worked out well!

Maybe make a deputy job the HoS can give out to people with his console?

Void Slayer

There should be a doorbell button on every door that tells the AI to open the door for you.

Void Slayer

What about, when someone purchases a syndi headset, it alerts/can alert the other traitors that someone bought one, so they can buy one?

Void Slayer

Umm, why cant the warden and HoS just pass out the armory guns at round start, I mean if your gonna give them lethal weapons just let it be controlled by the armory bosses.

Void Slayer

But, this removes the need for the funny phrases to confirm other syndicates.

No more need to ask the bartender for a spicy vodka martini for Karl Anderson?

Void Slayer

I have an outside the box one, probably not feasible but here's a shot: Ghosts now have a like/approve/rate ability. They can now rate antagonists for the entertainment value of their actions. To avoid people just downvoting their killer, I guess it should be based solely on positive votes. 5 posit...

Void Slayer

I have always been in favor of adding additional objectives for more TCs. Basically if you killed your target or have your objective items on you, you can access your up link to get an additional objective, +5 TCs and now you need to keep both objectives completed. You can do this maybe 4 times for ...

Void Slayer

Oh hey I was that mime. Basically I was in sec showing off the fox, then he grabbed the fox and ran out with it. When I found him to get it back he beat it to death, then when I informed the HoS he tried to space the corpse to hide the evidence! I proceeded to try and push him out the airlock while ...

Void Slayer

I do not think anyone is defending the security officer, he deserved dunking.

Void Slayer

The cloak device should be used in hand and must be carried in a hand to work. That way it can be counteracted by just knocking the guy over and you can not use two handed weapons. Random taser shots and banana peels.

Void Slayer

I was on for these rounds... if any admin did it it would just be perfectly fine; unless they gave these powers to themselves or friends or intentionally fucked up the round I do not really see the problem. I understand some people want to draw a hard line against what coders can do, but this is a p...

Void Slayer

You keep saying that he would be fine if he stayed away from the bombed area, I saw the damage in that screen shot, no area was safe, the whole thing was massively leaking into space. Bombs render vast areas inhospitable, you are responsible for deaths caused by that. You also destroyed the shuttle ...

Void Slayer

Murder is justifiable as long as it was properly escalated. You can’t go from a single rude punch to a knife in the neck. You can, however, go from a single punch to a counter punch to a brawl to using weapons, and so on. Other IC justifications may exist for murder, but these are on a case by case...

Void Slayer

This might be a good area to start testing out a low rule system, since it involves some of the most difficult areas of interaction. Here or with the AI. I know my normal manner of playing sec is to ensure everyone arrested get's a fair hearing and that any serious punishment is based on real eviden...

Void Slayer

The thing is the highly specific rules are from requests IN THREADS LIKE THESE REQUESTING SPECIFIC CLARIFICATIONS. There were less specific rules and admins were allowed more leeway to say this was shit and that was funny but people got uptight about it and more specific rules were laid down. As to ...

Void Slayer

I always see the AI as an amoral intelligence, that's why we have the laws. Requiring some kind of escalation should be required, like pre purge screaming of rogue, randomly blowing borgs, berating the AI at slow door opening and such. Completely random, specific murder of people who did nothing to ...

Void Slayer

River Reade here. The CE was so shit he assumed anyone joining the RD on the satellite was there to attack him. I hit a portal by accident and got to the sat, the RD and CE were fighting, I tried grabbing the fire axe and running away but the CE knocked me down and axed me. At that point I sided wit...

Void Slayer

Also make the handheld crew monitor a single item the CMO has, exactly the same as it is right now, no vendors. Meh, it would be rather simple (I think) to just check if they have completed the objective *right now* even if it later becomes incomplete. You want the toys do your work is a pretty nift...

Void Slayer

What if instead of starting traitors out with more TC, we reduce the cost a little bit on some non lethal utility items, then give traitors an option to up the ante for more TCs. Like they could have 3 options in the uplink - murder, steal, sabotage (bodyguard?) These could be used once each to give...

Void Slayer

Ha, I remember when I was a full kitted out changeling under the old system, I could take down 3 people every 30 seconds just with stings alone, good times. Honestly the condition of the body after eating does not really matter, any halfway decent changling will store them in an out of the way locat...

Void Slayer

Here is how you get off a perma ban right now, as far as I understand it: 1. Don't do something super fucking creepy, no we shouldn't unban for that. 1.a.Or do not meta communicate. 2. Go play on another server and don't be shit. Follow their rules. 3. Make a polite appeal acknowledging you will fol...

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