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by obi wan kaczynski
Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:28 am
 
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: obi wan permabanobi peanut
Replies: 28
Views: 1873

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

cacogen wrote:Shame this thread got off-track because rounds ending prematurely is a genuine problem and always has been

yeah there has been some good discussion but people are losing their minds over the suggestion
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:57 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

Mod edit: No personal insults please. While I'll agree that the escape shtutle is a fairly poor mechanic, if you want to replace it, you need to suggest what to replace it with. The "restart vote to end rounds" design fails to end the round for a satisfying, definitive reason and is also ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:46 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank

... you ignored the examples of good-faith transparency... Like not putting your ban reason in the OP? I'm not arguing this any further. I reduced your ban, that's as good as you're getting from me. That was a transcription error. I can't copypaste from the Byond window and it disappears after a fe...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:43 am
 
Forum: Resolved Appeals
Topic: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank
Replies: 9
Views: 815

Re: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank

I'm going to leave this open for headmins to comment on and reduce your ban to a week. So my ban being reduced by the perpetrator indicates that I am at least half right. What else am I right could i possibly be right about, then? At best, I don't see you improving any time soon. At worst, I don't ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:35 am
 
Forum: Resolved Appeals
Topic: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank
Replies: 9
Views: 815

Re: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank

I admitted in the very OP that you're responding to that my dislike for Felinids being in game was the motivation: OOC exhaustion (catgirls are a sad example of nerd misogyny because they fetishize women as domesticated housepets) So, no dissembling here. Maybe I'll crusade for their removal once ge...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:17 am
 
Forum: Resolved Appeals
Topic: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank
Replies: 9
Views: 815

[Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank

BYOND account: Into_the_woods Character name: I forget; I always-random names Ban type: Server Ban length: Permanent Ban reason: Attacked a Felinid crewmember for killing a mouse after multiple instances of attacking/calling Felinid crewmembers slurs. Had been warned about this behavior before. Tim...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:51 am
 
Forum: Resolved Appeals
Topic: [Vekter] Into_the_woods -- permabanned for hitting someone with oxygen tank
Replies: 9
Views: 815

Re: Possible change to uplinks (for traitors)

no, exciting rounds of ss13 ending because something went wrong is a problem outside of tastes and opinions
by obi wan kaczynski
Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:12 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Possible change to uplinks (for traitors)
Replies: 58
Views: 5449

Re: Minor Suggestions

Minor suggestions: more job-specific "skills" like how engineers can see what wires do, so every job isn't just as doable by an assistant with access
by obi wan kaczynski
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:49 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Minor Suggestions
Replies: 3601
Views: 414215

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

While I haven't really been following this, taking such a vitriolic stance, especially towards respected members of the community, is not going to pay off well in the long run. I've mentioned writing a design doc at some point, but you've mentioned this thread as that doc. I don't think the discuss...
by obi wan kaczynski
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:31 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

I just want people to make actual arguments in one direction or another, not just shrieking their heads off and stomping their feet saying "NO NO NO!!!!" Every single pro status-quo argument here is exactly that, or hangs on points already addressed several times. it's tiring and this cult...
by obi wan kaczynski
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:51 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

wesoda25 wrote:Counterpoint: it’s not

This is literally the depth of the autistic crowd's arguments for Just-World Theory. Zero (0) people have made an argument in favor of the status quo yet, it's just manchild squealing
by obi wan kaczynski
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:12 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

Mod edit: No personal insults please. While I'll agree that the escape shtutle is a fairly poor mechanic, if you want to replace it, you need to suggest what to replace it with. The "restart vote to end rounds" design fails to end the round for a satisfying, definitive reason and is also ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:21 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

What if the default shuttle timer was 20 minutes instead of 10? And red alert was 10? You'd have time for those interesting interactions (station missing medbay and people are hurt, what do?) rather than waiting in escape. My gut tells me that a shuttle call of any time will just make people collap...
by obi wan kaczynski
Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:08 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

Even if the power or comms dies, that can result a really cool atmosphere where the station has to deal with the threat while they are alone in the dark, stumbling upon other players with flashlights while trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Rounds like that are really cool but rarely h...
by obi wan kaczynski
Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:22 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

why do some people think spending 20 minutes patching up holes in the floor every other round is in any way entertaining it can be a nice change of pace but not to the point where it's laborious some people want ss13 to feel like you're actually working, i swear Because it's a social experience whe...
by obi wan kaczynski
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:48 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

kek. you have to be utterly retarded to believe that to be the case. with the way our shuttle system is implemented, just ONE player can keep the rest of the crew hostage by infinitely recalling with a stolen comms board and head access. If you dont want round to end, try doing something about it. ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:58 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

I agree. An emergency being the only valid IC reason to end the round is poorly thought out. But fun according to whom? Right now it's "the round ends if it's boring according to one of fifty players." We have a mechanic for ending a boring round. It's called restart vote. If it's too har...
by obi wan kaczynski
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:01 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

The last six rounds in a row on Basil: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483813870494941188/766879138316288000/eta3.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483813870494941188/766879141449957406/eta2.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483813870494941188/766879518890655754/eta.pn...
by obi wan kaczynski
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:26 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

"I'm bored" is actually the perfect shuttle call reason. If the round isn't fun anymore, it should end. <image> Why aren't people reading (or even OP) the thread before replying? This has been addressed multiple times. There are two problems: 1. The round is boring for a single player (ca...
by obi wan kaczynski
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:54 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

the poll says otherwise, nerd wow people with autism play space station 13? Now i've seen everything! Reminder that a symptom of autism is a pathological resistance to any kind of change. Notice how zero arguments have been put forth defending the shuttle in its current state, so we can infer that ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:58 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

the poll says otherwise, nerd wow people with autism play space station 13? Now i've seen everything! Reminder that a symptom of autism is a pathological resistance to any kind of change. Notice how zero arguments have been put forth defending the shuttle in its current state, so we can infer that ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:50 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

almost every reply has indicated that many people agree with me
by obi wan kaczynski
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:26 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

I still think changing how the shuttle works is necessary though. Many people have made good arguments for it in the past, and a lot of them make sense. I think we should try to get away from the notion that every round has to end with a shuttle call, as it doesnt make sense for a no threats boring...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:08 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: R&D/Research Overhaul - Departmental TechWebs

Make it so that prototyped/protolathe items have random numerical stats (within a range based on tech tiers available). Then the ability to save the prototype to a disk, so it can be remade from an autolathe with the same values. IE: Prototype Energy Cells having unreliable capacitance. Energy weap...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:25 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: R&D/Research Overhaul - Departmental TechWebs
Replies: 21
Views: 3120

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

Respawn seems to OOC step on the toes of the IC role of medical. I've been revived 45 minutes after my death because someone found my body in a locker. Paramedics seem to informally have "look for corpses" as part of their role anyway. Why bother reviving someone if it's CoD, though? But t...
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:10 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Possible change to uplinks (for traitors)

A traitor who has a larger sec/crew force to go up against is at a disadvantage, so having a conservation of TCs makes no sense. This seems to be a solution in search of a problem.

I strongly support getting bonus TCs for completing objectives, though. That would make rounds much more interesting.
by obi wan kaczynski
Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:51 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Possible change to uplinks (for traitors)
Replies: 58
Views: 5449

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

Whenever I hear people complain about shuttles I just assume they're the stupid atmos techs and engineers who barricade themselves away from the rest of the game and cry when their single player experience is being reset 2 hours into the round when everyone is dying of boredom Sounds like they are ...
by obi wan kaczynski
Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:40 pm
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Re: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

I have played on servers that do shuttle autocalls after 2 - 2.5 hours (with regular calls as we currently have them available) and it generally leads to people actually repairing breaches and fixing other problems, with shuttle calls being rather frowned upon unless the game mode requires it or th...
by obi wan kaczynski
Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:14 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped

The shuttle call is the worst mechanic in the game. It's antithetical to the entire spirit of Space Station 13, which is a game where an isolated crew tries to survive against an absurd, paranoia-laden death trap. Right now, rounds are ended unilaterally by one player when one of two things happen -...
by obi wan kaczynski
Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:24 am
 
Forum: Ideas
Topic: Shuttle call is the worst mechanic in SS13 and should be revamped
Replies: 94
Views: 3555

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