/tg/Station 13

Reimoo

Nerf everything is really the only sensible option. Anything that isn't a weapon/tool designed to target a single victim should be removed. Granted, that means probably every DA will go esword+ebow as a result, but that's another issue entirely. We have been in need of some more creative weapons add...

Reimoo

The clown and the mime should occasionally be given objectives to outprank each other.

Reimoo

Giving it lips and teeth is kinda creepy. Not in a good way either.

Idea is great, sprite just needs a little more work.

Reimoo

Well, fear of death is important. I'll give you that.

But as it stands right now not a lot of crewmembers value their lives in the first place. Anyone who does genuinely fear death is most likely an antagonist.

Reimoo

So what is stopping us from stealing it too?

Reimoo

Nobody has given a reason as to why the ghosts shouldn't be able to have fun. It's a game. People are supposed to have fun.

Reimoo

Personal objectives don't solve the problem. They just make everyone act unnecessarily selfish. However, crew objectives and end round stats are a good solution. Well, they help alleviate the problem at least. A short end round summary of what was completed and what wasn't is something that SS13 has...

Reimoo

I think the idea is great. It actually gives people a reason to visit the bar for once. As for the wizard/xeno candidates etc., it's not like every single ghost will be playing in the thunderdome. The size of the thunderdome right now can fit maybe 6 people max without making it a clusterfuck. There...

Reimoo

Well that's kind of what I was implying, you can't have a mafia game mode without having crooked cops too.

Reimoo

Oh damn. That's probably it then. I usually use the job indicator script as well.

Reimoo

I'm not sure if this subforum is the correct place to post this, so move it as needed. Anyway, I can't seem to make the selective mute script as listed on the wiki work as an AI. I make sure the script is on the common channel, I do everything the script says, input my name in YOUR NAME HERE, yadda ...

Reimoo

I think there should be no conversions period. If we look at how organized crime works in the past, we know that criminal organizations spread nothing like how a revolution would. Instead they use intimidation/bribery etc to gain influence over key political/social targets and they use this as a mea...

Reimoo

Well it wouldn't hurt giving the wizard more global spells anyway.

Reimoo

Mass Mindswap: Everyone randomly mindswaps with someone else, which may or may not include the wizard. Contact Spirits: Ghosts become visible and can speak to the living. Random Lawset: The AI receives a new lawset chosen at random. Mechanize Crew: Everyone except the wizard and the heads of staff b...

Reimoo

Scott wrote:Okay son, you're so special because you set up the singulo.

It's a job that really nobody wants to do. It deserves some credit.

Reimoo

Why can't we hide things under floor tiles yet? Like come on, guys.

Reimoo

Cipher3 wrote: Well, it's more like all-non-red tide and there's two of them killing eachother at the same time so it's like, MOAR ANARCHY, and super FUN.

So it's rev x2? Where does the ultra fancy mobster stuff come in?

Reimoo

So what makes this different from rev other than having two waves of greytide that security has to deal with?

Reimoo

'Harm' could be anything too, yet we don't use that logic for asimov.

Reimoo

How about a simple edit like "Protect the space station against malicious damage. Anyone you see maliciously harming the station is to be no longer considered human, and is a threat to the station which must be neutralized." It should deal with most issues with people "damaging"...

Reimoo

I think VG has one of these things where when the prison cell timer expires, a chute opens in the cell to allow the prisoner to leave without having to bother someone to let him out.

That would be neat.

Reimoo

I'm all for the nerf. That being said, I think the area of destruction needs to be slightly larger. It should be large enough to emphasize that it's main purpose is to cause damage but it still shouldn't cause a hull breach.

Reimoo

And emagging said computer in order to give the clown the entire station's budget!

Reimoo

Getting shocked by electrified doors or grilles should make you go all looney tunes, as in getting stuck and convulsing for a few seconds before falling over (and making your hair stand up, as in bedhead-hair, except if you're bald), duration depending on the power in powergrid, if someone touches ...

Reimoo

Bystanders dunking an obvious antag I'm okay with. Validhunters not so much.

Reimoo

TL;DR

Is my spacemens going to continue to be laggy or not?

Reimoo

I don't know if this has been noted or not, but the selective mute script on the NTSL page doesn't work.

Reimoo

- Dispersers: Certain machines, like the Public YouTool, could force you to buy the tools. Or food or whatever. I like this one especially. Too many people that shouldn't have tools have tools anyway because of all the free dispensers everywhere. I really think the one way one should be able to get...

Reimoo

I was simply just throwing ideas into the air. You always see in TV and movies and such these elite guys in combat gear doing all this tactical shit. I want to see that happen in Nuke Ops, but it always ends up being so disappointing because I know what exactly will happen every time when there are ...

Reimoo

TL;DR If you don't want to read all of that crap below , bottom line I am trying to say is that Nuke Ops has grown stale because the objective is always the same. In order to keep things fresh, the ops need new things to do. So, the topic of this thread is the Nuke Ops mode. More specifically, how ...

Reimoo

Well what other incentives does a spaceman have other than to obtain shiny new toys to kill other spacemans with?

Reimoo

This is going to be highly criticized, but what if being among the richest at the end of the round very slighty increases your antag chance for the next round only? Of course, this would mean these people wouldn't be revealed end round, but I think it would accurately reflect how greed can influence...

Reimoo

Well, if we want to get close to accurately depicting what RnD actually is, the best way to do it would be to introduce some trial-and-error thing much like what Telescience/Virology/Genetics have. It's the closest we can get to the scientific method when meta knowledge is an issue.

Reimoo

RnD doesn't feel sciency. That's the worst part of it. There is absolutely NO experimentation or research involved. I want to be a scientist, not a delivery boy for the RD.

Reimoo

If anything, we at least need a dead man's trigger added to remote signalers. That's probably the most important aspect to making a hostage situation actually work.

Reimoo

One of the issues about request consoles is simply that it's not noticeable enough. If the sprite was a bit more noticeable or if it actually took up space and wasn't wall mounted maybe this wouldn't be an issue.

Reimoo

What if people logout/suicide/space themselves immediately after 10 minutes then? What if someone is killed before 10 minutes and they logout? What if OOC issues pull someone away from the computer before 10 minutes? What if power outages/internet hiccups disconnect someone before 10 minutes? Regard...

Reimoo

I like the intercom idea. Maybe shitcurity would actually start watching what they say for once.

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Steelpoint wrote:

You can put the jetpack into your backpack? WHAT.

Reimoo

Way too many gasmasks there, friend.

Reimoo

Playing as the crew is sorta meh. Playing as the blob, on the other hand, is a fucking blast. Single handedly one of the best experiences I've ever had on SS13.

Reimoo

You do need a randomization on the time chosen though, because, say if the antags are always chosen at the 10 minute mark people will be expecting that and meta the shit out of it.

Reimoo

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Reimoo

Theoretically, confiscated items SHOULD go into evidence, but in reality, this is often sub-optimal for the security team as a whole. If a pair or two of insulated gloves are confiscated, they do the department zero good. However, equipping an officer or two with them alongside a full toolbelt to p...

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geilebeer wrote:This is the idea section for regular tgcode, heads don't have telescopic batons.

Well we should getting to porting it then, huh?

Reimoo

His point still stands, though. At the moment the effort needed to demote a subordinate is much more trouble than it's worth.

Reimoo

The only complaint I have is that I can't type track into the command bar anymore. I have to use the GUI to locate people which takes significantly longer.

Reimoo

>DA scientist >Fuck yes, hatch master plan immediately >I will use bomb threats to coerce the crew into doing my assassination objective for me! >Regardless, I will still blow up genetics to ensure my target stays dead >Begin bomb production >Purchase a camera bug to allow effective detonation timin...

Reimoo

I'd rather have it so heads of staff could use their IDs on their subordinates' ID to instantly demote them. That way, at least the traitor/griffon/clown etc needs to have been subdued beforehand to allow an access downgrade. Also, speaking from personal experience, heads are in a dire need of a mor...

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Alex Crimson wrote: I do think antags, specifically traitors, need more diverse objectives that are not just about killing or stealing a single item.

Sabotage objectives would be neat.

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