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yes, as is stated above: justice and moral retribution are viewed as intrinsic duties rather than goals to be achieved. it's not about the consequences but only about fulfilling that moral duty that respects the rational agency and upholding the moral law. by taking a life, a murderer has violated t...

"the advancement of science allows for the fluroushing and enrichment of human life and society" is consequentialist reasoning, and incompatible with deontological principles. this way of thinking prioritizes the consequences over the inherent nature of the actions themselves, which fail t...

the categorical imperative's ability to be universal is just one part of the test, the other is that it passes the objective analysis of the natural moral order that protects human dignity and autonomy. the maxim "scientific discovery must be pursued" fails universality if that pursuit vio...

i don't like politics threads but i do like philosophy so i'm going in anyway Should you give your wallet if threatened by a mugger? You could use deontology to say both: -No you shouldn't, because if people always gave away things while threatened then the concept of ownership would loose all meani...

yeah, these are all valid. all that we ask for restricted antags is for their murdering to be in pursuit of an objective. it's up to the antag to decide for themselves how they approach completing their objective, admins shouldn't impose a "safer" route on them. it doesn't have to be a cod...

if you pay me $10 i'll give you an antag token

i promise i will give the money to tgstation :)

scriptis has been broken down into atoms and then rebuilt into his true form: an admin trainer!!

this is something i'm still very much eager to see realized. the roadblock we've hit is basically that the current admin tools that allow for events to be run are given in totality and can't be meaningfully restricted for things like showing sensitive information about connected clients. what we wou...

we currently have no interest in changing the rules around metacomming. they are strict because we are a hidden role social deduction roleplaying game. we are traditional games station, and our style of play is rooted in tabletop roleplaying games. we would like our players to pay attention to the r...

re-add lean. then the game will return to a perfect state.

my inability to grip and sip purple drank while operating heavy machinery in outer space is a dire crime that must be corrected.

https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/1140910600155840582/1265094989117919306/image.png?ex=66a04305&is=669ef185&hm=89f5dabce48cb451dc1d0b75a7112e45aeda8ab1448adb09beb2f487c64c4e6f& hey guys what's going on in this thread? i'm new here and looking to cause so...

after being the first captain to successfully complete the kobayashi nyaru training scenario, theduffelbag has been promoted to game admin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

promoted!

this is me when i go into tgstation forums and just lie and make things up wait no that's you hello my friend, in any other case i would know better than to post in a thread about politics on a video game forum but: all your posts have been getting complaints recently and after reviewing them they ...

after a gruelling trial by combat where they had to defeat all of us at once in the secret underground gladiator arena, xzero314 has been promoted to game admin!!!!!!!!!!!!

promoted!

after internal discussions on this topic, 2 headmins don't want it and 1 isn't all that interested in pushing that hard to try it. so we will be turning down this proposal currently.

thank you to everyone for your participation in the discussion.

tf2 has/had a coach system for you to have a buddy watching from your vantage point who can see what you can see, (and only what you can see). We can already do this with the observe hud system (its a check box in the orbit menu) so if we had a way for a player to mark themselves as a coach for som...

there is a headmin ruling (somewhere) that says that admins should consider the *possible* methods of non-harmful escape before restricting players' choices. sometimes players will do things that get themselves into trouble and they shouldn't then escalate harder against a response off the back of t...

the roleplay's fine so long as you don't like roleplay and rather enjoy circlejerking in the bar with peoples' moths and barefoot lizard statics also weirdos in wheelchairs that play anime music on a fucking piano it's bad jesus christ especially on manuel be ashamed, they should all be gut wrenchi...

if i think you're killing my event boss mob too easily i'm probably giving them more health throughout the fight also, one time semi-recently me and some other admins gaslit the crew into thinking there were nukies. we just spawned in full nukie gear and flew around outside the brig windows for a bi...

hello, while this appeal is resolved, we have chosen to intervene as headmins and apply a permanent QC ban for this conduct. none of us knew the extent of this situation or just how vile those logs are. at first this seemed like a strong breach of escalation against protected roles (sec), but this b...

headmins got their work cut out for them on this one id hate to be them right now

it's ONLY a 16.7% chance,
IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN

it feels like our whole goal of "letting players RP with antags" in mrp is challenged by our current implementation of dynamic and progression. I feel like such an asshole when discussing my issues with the systems because they're all coded in good faith in order to fix issues and make th...

this type of teaching can only take place when there's an active admin refereeing the game, so that they can use their abilities and oversight of the round to ensure that it remains fair, and that the actions of those who are communicating are monitored in such a way that it refutes any scrutiny pla...

I'm gonna say it. You're a prude, and you're asking everyone else to accommodate you, when your viewpoint is observably extreme. please don't shame people by calling them a prude for being uncomfortable or make them have to explain why they have these boundaries, it is a very quick way to have your...

for what it's worth (i am in mobile so the formatting for this post is going to suck) i also don't like having gratuitous sexual content imposed on me and i play tg for similar reasons. i would like to have the library have some kind of middle ground where we can have "mature" books that a...

The idea that the exact wording of the law must be followed to the letter ignoring every shred of context is surely not a healthy way to administrate the servers, no? I don't see why game admins need to be rules lawyering this hard for something that happened on again an EMPTY server. It is literal...

when you made this appeal, you were asked to put your reasons for appealing. one of the ones you chose was this: (x) - The ban/note is not against the rules the purpose of my post was not to stonewall you, it was to explain to you why this aspect of your argument is factually inaccurate. we do not r...

i was not consulted on this ban and had no input on it, but in the interests of accuracy pertaining to the rules here i can address some of this: I know I'm going to get hit with the "metacommunications is our most serious offense, we treat all infractions harshly no matter what!!" excuse,...

to be clear: nothing about the current enforcement of library material has changed, except to clarify that if someone comes to us to request that adult material concerning them or their characters that they didn't consent to is removed, we will 100% do something about it. i would like our users to b...

The issue with Dynamic and why I want a verson of "Secret" is because even at it's most gimped, dynamic makes MRP rounds far too gamey and samey. Ironically, having similar antags lead to people being more creative and rounds generally having a better flow where solo antags had the abilit...

hello, we have voted to add a new rule 8 precedent: For legacy reasons the library isn't moderated for rule 8 as strictly or as actively as the rest of in-game content, but making lewd content involving other players or their characters is treated harshly unless consensual. we do not want players to...

this appeal is resolved and if the discussion has devolved into just calling each other autistic then yes, i will lock the thread and hand out warnings to those who caused it to be locked. please at least make an attempt to be civil when there is no reason not to be.

Also strange that Janitor and Science are both represented by the color purple. janitors uniforms are a reference to roger wilco the protagonist of space quest who is a custodial officer (janitor) if it is ever changed from this soulful reference i will do everything in my power to destroy this com...

we had cryopods here for a while when people wanted to permanently ICly exit the round, and they ruled because the floor of the cryopod room was always just full of loot, each round i'd walk off the shuttle, into the cryopod room and pick up a full toolbelt

like the majority of others have said, i think uniforms are important - we're professionals (lol) working on a space station after all, we have specific jobs and there's supposed to be a chain of command and all that kind of thing. when i see non-uniformed people i immediately assume "assistant...

yeah, those are all really good points! i've learned that players take that sort of stuff differently - a lot of the "soul" of this game is taken from ttrpgs like "paranoia" which plays with agency in really interesting ways. it has a similar sort of "big brother" entit...

i remember when we used to call him rhials fluffy he fulfilled the captain role on manuel in a way that was culture defining for the server in its early years, and guided many players (me included) into seeing how fun the game was as a piece of interactive improv theatre. as an admin he's only been ...

lorwp has become highrp and returned to being an admin!!!!!

just as the bones foretold... lorwp... has....... RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would personally separate out agency into two distinct aspects: personal agency and the agency of the "world" personal agency is holy. it's someone's right to control their own character, make decisions for their character, and have free will to dictate what their character does, thinks,...

ekat brings up good points on this matter, which might shock some of you to hear. but it only considers one aspect of fairness. we reserve QC bans for when we as headmins feel it's necessary to shift the responsibility of us justifying why someone should be removed, onto the person removed justifyin...

the OG jumpskirt, star trek's "skant" uniform variant, was also seen as genderless! examples: https://startrekcostumeguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/TNG-1x1-Encounter-Farpoint-9.jpg https://global.discourse-cdn.com/boingboing/original/4X/7/7/e/77ea335fb1717ffc1d8497b2f160d9e8ff2db71c....

omg, we've been blessed with a real bon(er)-fide BONERMASTER post, this is now a platinum quality thread

The only thing that's left to observe, barring notes that have no context attached to them anymore, is an angry lizard's chat logs, because they had the arrogance to voice their displeasure with the general state of things, in a sometimes extremely acerbic, hateful, and sometimes too personal way, ...

Losing "meta protection" is all well and good but realistically, retaliating against security is not going to go well for you even if admins will not whisper you about it. i've thrown wrongful prisoners a bone before (sending an inspector at a suspiciously convenient time to inspect secur...

this is such a good thread and i loved all of these cute stories. i hope you play with us more!!!

we had a very longwinded discussion about this in the admin subforum, and my thoughts (which i posted when i was the lowly forum jannie and not headmin) was that: peanuts offer a place for players and admins to discuss things openly and impartially - admins can't delete posts or ban users from the f...

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