/tg/Station 13

Most things no longer 100% block projectiles. Before you could use shit like girders and consoles to absorb all damage, now there is a whatever % chance to go through. Also sec barriers are now destroyable, not sure if anything else works for this, but there probably is if you look hard enough.

I miss the days of xray laser turrets parked in the main hall behind flashers/other projectile blocking, non LoS blocking items, with everyone set to arrest.

In my proposal it's just an 'analyser', which makes it somewhat more likely to be to get related research options rolled, but all the other requirements are still needed - in essence it's just pushing the rng in a direction of your choice (although as said, certain options NEEDING a very particular/...

Instead of a tech web do stellaris' random tech deck Please elaborate on this and how it might apply to SS13 it sounds interesting If you haven't played it, or other games like it, basically research is like this in stellaris: You have 3 research paths, physics, engineering and bio or some gay gree...

I miss stabbing yourself in the face with an unpeeled banana. #Stopdumbingdowntgstation2017 Also I agree with being able to move/whisper while in soft crit at the cost of slowly killing yourself in the process. It gives the player some agency, and there is nothing more frustrating then not being abl...

Just make it interesting - if you crush it in hand it sucks the light out of the surrounding area briefly, to let you escape/sneak into somewhere/gib some nerd/whatever. Stepping on them if they're growing on the floor does the same thing but a much smaller area, and only while you're on it. good s...

Supermatter engines were FUN when you had to build one from scratch, with a shard from cargo. Plenty of people tried it and plenty of people spectacularly fucked it up, but it was at least a fairly interesting/time consuming challenge. The current SM engine in (my shitty opinion) is that honestly it...

Just make it interesting - if you crush it in hand it sucks the light out of the surrounding area briefly, to let you escape/sneak into somewhere/gib some nerd/whatever.
Stepping on them if they're growing on the floor does the same thing but a much smaller area, and only while you're on it.

is the ice pick head thingo hook like, and can it fit through the grille? Actually could you just better describe the item in detail?

Banned for ARRESTING the captain, not killing, not even demoting.

What am I reading.

Ok so we still haven't done anything about the fire place. What is actually burning in there, and is there an spare fuel (ie: logs/kindling/tinder) I want to A: Get something that canfit down the grate and set it on fire to drop down there, to see what's down there. B: use the rake to drag all the b...

If you REALLY wanted to, you could empty the oil out of the flask (burn it out to really purge it though), refill it with DELICIOUS fountain water, add pine needles and hang over fireplace with the rake, making sure not to be a tard and set the rake on fire. It would be fucking disgusting though, bu...

Neat. That should (in theory) cover the shitty player side of it, now if only we can cover the other side (shitty lelrandumb admeme events) too.

Despite the oldman memes he is 100% right tbh. If some fucker pulls a toy sword or cap gun on me and pretends to try murder me, they can't be surprised if I kill them there and then. If I discover that it's just a fucking toy, and I proceed to fucking murder them anyway, how is that not just being m...

If policy/server rules say that non antag can valid the shit out of anything admin spawned, why don't the headmins just change that? The idea that everyone would just randomly swarm and mug/murder the centcomm inspector or whatever for no reason is rediculous, considering if they did the same thing ...

Players will always use the best option, unless there is a very good reason not to. Many of the items mentioned do not have a good enough reason to use them. Using the power first as an example, the only difference from the Esword is pushing people away and doing a little less damage, both of which...

Name: Lumi Pharon
Job: Op
Starting action: Light up a syndie cigarette and silently watch my team members trying to table each other, while screaming internally.

Yeah but syndie bomb is literally not good. You spend most of your tc's to blow a fairly small hole in the station round start. Congrats, you have like 8tc left or whatever it is, and you've mildly inconvenienced 1 or 2 jobs, maybe killed a few people, but probably didn't even remove them from the r...

That would actually work with what I'm currently working on. Each department is a set of linked 'demountable' style buildings (fluff being NT just air dropped in some space IKEA modular shit to save time), so are physically independent from each other.

-Airlock Charges: If these are still in the game, fuck them (it's still on the wiki, joy). It's a 2 TC guaranteed kill for anyone opening a door, almost always knocks you out or sets you on fire and exposes you to space. It's not even a good item for anything other then random murder unless you wai...

Can we tell where the sealed door inside the house goes? IE: is there a window we can go through to bypass the door? Can we even tell what's keeping the door closed (latch, lock etc?) If it's a simple latch we can probably lift it by sticking the rake in and pushing it up. We could try levering it w...

@Kor

Is the atmos safe to breath? Is it hot/cold? Is it the same in lavaland and surface?
I was making a draft where the surface base was the big wall with multiple self contained buildings plonked down inside as though NT had air dropped demountables or something to rapidly setup the base.

If you use that logic though then most~ uplink items are pointless because you can get the same effect by using non tator stuff if you put in enough time and effort. Only a handful of things provide truly unique effects - adrenal implants, projectile reflect from dsword, powersink. cham projector e...

Toy gun vs syringe gun: Toy gun isn't dodgy contraband, but is actually surprisingly effective at taking someone down non leathaly. The syringe gun requires either further tc investment for poisons, or acces to chem/botany/science to make use of it. This is kind of my point. The syringe gun require...

While a few items are straight up utterly impractical/useless, in general what is the issue with a large variety of items? Just because shit doesn't get used a lot doesn't mean it should get axed. Similarly, redundancy only applies if it literally achieves the same thing as another item in the same ...

So for clarification, the top level is ground level, bottom is subterranean?
is the atmosphere supposed to be safe to breath? Because I'm thinking about less a fully linked station and more a cluster of separate spessman yurts. (under level may or may not be unified, haven't figured that out yet.)

Then you'll have to convine the 90%+ of the player base that don't agree with you.
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>mine addy ore >50 clowns swarm out like a cluwnbomb Jesus christ how horrifying. Also mining adamantine releasing FUN would be better if it wasn't just randomly distributed like any other ore, albeit somewhat rarer. Atleast in DF you actually need to dig into the depths to reach the stuff. Double b...

A good portion of tators/lings ignore objectives and just murderbone/do random cuck shit anyway. The only time having objectives isn't is the (relatively) small group of players that will do their objective with zero player interaction then braindead/do nothing else antagonistic for the rest of the ...

I've killed team mates before and retroactively given the blessing by admins. Of course this is for situations where they're explicitly being fucking retarded and hindering the team in a severe way, and so they're covered by rule 4 or whichever it is that says team antags cant dick over their team m...

This is covered under whatever ruel it is that says team antags can't dick each other over, right? As above, if most of the group wants it for whatever reason, it's ok. If you pull it off on your own without fucking your own team somehow, presumably that's ok. If you do it because your team is clear...

good luck completely removing them from rotation. It would be nice if their probability of happening dropped like a sack of bricks though.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying though. But that period was FUN.

Early gang was 10/10 fun, the hilarious firefights we had between 5-6 gangers on either side, sometimes with some security in there also. Honestly they were the most enjoyable fights I've had in the game, the problems only really appeared after that early phase, when people started playing to win ra...

Creating situations where a Human could come into harm is stlll violating Law 1. Potential harm is still a Law 1 risk, without it, AIs wouldn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to not releasing everyone in the perma brig (Silicon policy states that releasing a perma brig prisoner without securi...

You keep talking about this 'future violations of laws' bollocks, as though this is different from something immediate. If someone tells me to bolt someone into a room and vent all atmosphere, it is not immediately harmful, but that doesn't mean it's not a law 1 violation. This is extremely straight...

Nilons, telling an emagged borg to go do whatever, is like 1-human'ing the ai and telling it to go do whatever. there's a 90% chance that it will flood the station with plasma, if it can lock you in a closet, and keep you safe from harm. doesn't the hacked ai module come with a warning to be very s...

What? No, this is extremely clear cut silicon policy. Law zero states robo dude is a syndie agent. Law 1 states that you cannot allow him to come to harm via action or inaction. By asking, and allowing yourself to be deconstructed, you are putting him in mortal peril because you're obviously going t...

no, just to follow law 1 that states you cannot allow the syndicate agents come to harm, either by action(asking to be deconstructed) or inaction (letting them deconstruct you).

Ignoring the fact that getting yourself deconstructed as an emagged borg so you can rat them out is extremely bad form and salty as fuck, your emagged laws make it fairly clear that doing so is not ok, unless explicitly told to do so. 0. Only [Name] and people he designates as being such are Syndica...

Traitors backstabbing their cult buddies is fine - as long as it's helping them achieve their traitor objectives. It's as straight forward as silicon laws - the AI will obey human instructions, but if it has to ignore that in order to save a human life, then that's ok - and the players (mostly) seem...

If your team mate is dumb enough to stand that close, they're a liability, not an asset. You're unironically better off with them dead - less free loot for the crew.

afaik you can just make 1 tile of XYZ pressure of a single gas, so wehn the map loads they just spread around and mix. Also all gases together should be perfectly safe (at room temp). Edit: Bopper, an interesting/fluffy theme for the station would be repurposing an existing structure/station to make...

Yeah goof this is actually mind numbingly annoying. I didn't know what the tirgger was, but several rounds yesterday as dorfs we got utterly raped by was effectively an unlimited swarm(heh) of swarmers just constantly attacking and eating everything. If it only triggered after a certain amount of ti...

The general gist of it as far as I can envision would be: 1) Themed objectives (probably multiple) 2) certain faction appropriate items discounted to some extend. Perhaps 1 or more faction only items available 3) Certain faction inappropriate items increased in price or outright not available 4) Flu...

You can just built a meat hook with some metal rods - take like 6 rods or someshit, just grab some roundstart from aux storage.

Well ignoring the memester, is something like the syndicate faction thing I mentioned something you'd think would be interesting?
While it's not an outright new antag, it would add something fresh to the gamemode, and a bit of variety.

Well, this thread got derailed fast.

RIP, never even got to try the updated gang.

In the real world you don't have a steady stream of random fucks attacking you for you to capture and harvest for spare parts.

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