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Dr_bee

Never has the term "Panic Siphon" been more appropriate

Dr_bee

I like to run a gimmick when I get traitor, I get sleeping carp, maybe an agent ID, and and dress like a ninja. Instead of running around punching people I just grab a plant, a box, or some other method of hiding and make myself look as suspicious as humanly possible. following people, hiding in sha...

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FantasticFwoosh wrote:Cat ears can hear sihouettes of small creatures like mice, larva and drones moving about if they wear mesons. Reasonable? Just really downscaled radioscopic ears.

not larva, dont want people getting cat ears to powergame what is basically a flavor thing.

Dr_bee

nice little meme TC trade that went off well. >be virologist (duh) *snip* >bunch of people in comfy chairs around a few tables talking about the plush carp >i tell them to wait >i tell them we will all become carps >i tell them it says it loves us all >did i mention i had a payload of 20 carps >and...

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please we clearly use our vast psionic potential to beam our thoughts directly into your heads complete with propaganda on a more serious, non-shitposting note, why dont lizards and plasmen have their own language? I know people dont like lizard metafriendship but it would definitely be interesting...

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Now that I think about it this is probably a firefly reference. English/Chinese or English/Japanese language fusion has been kind of a staple of near future sci-fi since the late 70s. Firefly did it, Shadowrun did it, it fits the setting and I kinda like it. "Diversity" is a non-issue, it...

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This an idea I had as a result of a few discussions I had about playing as aliens. Rather than have a single Alien Infestation , I recommend we split it in two - Alien Infestation and Alien Hunt . Base events remain the same as always, but with some small changes. Alien Infestation would work the s...

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this won't be fixed until freeze over because >VR removals are allowed during feature freeze. seriously, this is still a fucking problem, someone either remove freon or remove the fucking holodeck winter wonderland and the problem is SOLVED, stop overthinking this and FIX IT. worry about making a b...

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Big thing I'm noticing from rounds is that the major complaint with the map is the spacing. While I enjoy the idea of being spaced out and isolating departments, it seems to be more of a minority opinion when it comes to playing. I've added a poll to the thread to figure out whether or not I should...

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Frankly I think counter attacking the nuke shuttle is an interesting play the crew can make, however tossing a maxcap or teleporting the bomb with telesci is boring as hell. Is it possible to make the shuttle walls block explosions? That way if you want to bomb the shuttle you will at least be requi...

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This is still a problem, murdering the entire crew, trapping new arrivals on the shuttle lest they face death, and making boring as fuck rounds for 50 people, and occasionally crashing the server.

For Christ's sake someone please fix it, this is becoming too fucking common.

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ShadowDimentio wrote:It takes five seconds to make a spray bottle of acid. You have no excuse if you can't do that, at least.

5 units of sulfanol and a syringe gun works wonders. nothing quite like handing out free naps.

Dr_bee

Massive +1 on the stealing electrical power instead of resources. Having mini power sinks all round will make the cult feel much more antagonistic. Well the argument against that is you'll notice the higher than normal power drain and shut that shit down Sure, and fuck the entire station in the pro...

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>botany used to be a chill job where you could never worry about plant stats and you'd be ok since you were mainly growing food for the chef and maybe some deathnettles or bananas on the side >now it's GOTTA HAVE MUTAGEN GOTTA GET PLANT-BASED WMDS NOW!!! That's what I'm saying. What happened to tha...

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I'll just give the botanists a chemmaster so they don't have to steal it anymore then everyone'll be happy Please no, this interaction is fun, some conflict is good and being 100% self sufficent makes the game boring. Botany already has the ability to make its own mutagen with blumpkins and glowshr...

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I say keep the ruins but remove the ghost role spawners. those ruins have some decent loot in them that both miners and lavaland roles can find useful. the beach bums area is the only lavaland source of booze for the mining mixed drink, and the vet ruin gives a great source for medical supplies as w...

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I wonder why traitors even get access to more powerful weapons in the first place. why not simply have the TCs be used to send them bog-standard equipment that can be ordered from cargo? it would give traitors a bit more of an alibi and remove the "traitor gear = Valid" idea security tends...

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How do you make clock cult more of a threat for the entire round and not just at the end though? would having them need to steal actual resources from the station help somewhat? it wouldnt be a deadly threat but it would at least be somewhat antagonistic. maybe give them a bonus for siphoning power ...

Dr_bee

The primary design element of this map, its size, is the primary reason why people do not like it. no amount of quantam pads are going to solve that, the station needs to be smushed together, reduce the distance between each island and the long hallways will be tolerable. the problem with this size...

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The primary design element of this map, its size, is the primary reason why people do not like it. no amount of quantam pads are going to solve that, the station needs to be smushed together, reduce the distance between each island and the long hallways will be tolerable. the problem with this size ...

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Knaive wrote:make an engine that transforms the kinetic energy of an explosion into electrical energy based on the destructive force

and then merge toxins with atmos

When nanotrasen does an internal combustion engine, it does one big.

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Every time I see botany it's just worse and worse even with the nerf, it's just not enough. botany is cancer it practically only exists now to cause problems in the community. all I see botanists do is be huge pricks to everyone on the station, whether antag or not. this sucks. this sucks hard. The...

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Frankly I think a powerful tool that is literally just used for murderboning is uncreative and disruptive to actual creative play and doesnt need to be a thing. It doesnt matter if it kills you in the end, by the time security is anywhere ready to fight you you already have enough people dead to kil...

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There is a reason why I typically buy sleeping carp if I suspect it is DA, if only so I dont instantly die to 2 revolver shots or get perma-stunned by an e-bow. maybe restrict the more destructive weapons from the uplink during DA? make DA uplike the opposite of the nuke ops uplink and have it focus...

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Toxin's is supposed to be science's plasma research sector right? Maybe have it change plasma gas into different form with different effects, a concentrated plasma that burns hotter but for shorter periods, a energized plasma that powers everything around it, a hydrated plasma that coats everything ...

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As a 'participant' of that round, I can tell you that it killed pretty much everyone dead in under 10 seconds about 5 minutes into the round. I barely had enough time to go from my seat in chemistry to the sleepers in boxstation medbay before keeling over. This is worse than releasing a singulo and ...

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Will that Bluespace artillery be functional? That sounds like a recipie for FUN and a pretty good reason to go up to that z-level.

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I don't think anyone in that thread understands that "overall less effective but still being able to cause griff/be a triage if u gud/lucky/have a lot of mutagen" was the entire purpose of the nerf. I think I've mentioned this several times now. This also hurts bad plants. Plants aren't c...

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Wyzack wrote:Just remove the damn thing and make these fucking whinging infants go back to the old way of botany if they can't stop tantruming

and go back to botany almost never being manned?

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What was the general reaction to that recent botany nerf? I've been away for a few days so I haven't gotten to see the reactions people had https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10266 witness Oh, it looks like I can't read again, thanks It's a mesh of "This nerf is useless&quo...

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On a side note, having actual hard-mode traitor rounds would be kinda fun if you think about it. all the licence to griff none of the TC bullshit. youd have to think on your toes a bit

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Don't do half compromises, if the bombs are removed, then remove toxins too. They can do far worse in less time. It typically requires SOME time and you can be caught, plus if the RD is doing their job they should heavily restrict TTVs and monitor toxin's like a hawk. If you want to nerf toxins jus...

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I am ok with this change, I would prefer the DNA machine involve a biomass cost instead as that would be a nice time gate but this works as a nice temp fix.

However production speed 9 is absolutely horrible, my god, make it 4 or 5 or something, 9 is literally the second worst possibility.

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I was thinking more, as I always do, and was wondering if adding more traits, but undesireable ones, Like random mutation or causing brute damage on harvest, would make botany a bit more interesting. This would mesh well with adding a biomatter cost to using the DNA manipulator as you could have a r...

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Eh, I suggested this change more than once, if anything it means botany needs to bug RnD more. although production speed 9 base is REALLY shitty, 5 would be a better default.

Now, just get rid of ambrosia gaia auto-care and it will make botany raid RnD for parts more often.

Dr_bee

Cargo are now salvagers. They get equipment for exploring the planet surface and caverns and getting useful stuff for the station, miners are similar but more focused on mining as usual. What stops miners from doing salvager's (should be called prospector, we New Vegas now) job? It's not like it's ...

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Screemonster wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:Botany should get palm trees.
They should mutate into napalm trees.
wrong thread

Botany already has way too many destructive and weaponized plants... but I am a sucker for a good pun, so someone actually code this. FLAMING COCONUTS!

Dr_bee

I can imagine cargo's position being replaced with people just scavenging the place around the station for ruins to restock supplies. Not necessarily a new job to replace them, just "send a team of 2-3 people out to check out the nearby structure(s) and come back with whatever they can find&qu...

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Everybody's just trying to find ways to make botany as tedious as possible, even for people who want to do helpful stuff... The thing about fully upgraded hydroponics trays is they are almost as set and forget as ambrosia gaia trays, and they use an existing inter-departmental interaction instead o...

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I actually have been thinking a lot about this. Part of the problem is the self sufficiency and another is the lack of a cost to use the DNA machine, so I propose 3 things. First, remove the auto-water/feed feature from ambrosia gaia. This completely trivializes one of the main interactions between ...

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Maybe make serious injury less deadly and more debilitating? Sure. the basic medkits and sleepers can keep you fighting, but you need surgery to handle the more serious issues. I always make comparisons to goon, but they have a similar fast paced style of gameplay but also have combat cause injuries...

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I actually like this idea. Part of the problem with giving heads of staff better and cooler looking gear is it attracts power-gamers to what should be a manager role. A robust HoS is nice to have but an HoS who manages his officers well is much more valuable. I honestly disagree with Steelpoints Ide...

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Glowcap's red glow is actually rather nice, makes for a creepy atmosphere during cult rounds. but yeah, it seems that botany has gotten a bit too many things that cause exponential growth, kudzu is fine, but darkshrooms need to have their HP reduced so they can be removed easily. Also, Nerf the HP o...

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Dont you have the ability to measure crew survival percentage as well as station damage percentage? what if you simply locked the shuttle behind a vote until a certain threshold of overall station damage is met. maybe have the vote shuttle be called crew transfer shuttle and the threshold shuttle be...

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There was an interesting discussion in game about how tomatos work. it turns out that they inject by default, without the hypodermic prickles trait, when they hit someone. Now you would think that it would default to contact instead of inject, which would make most poisons require a bit more work to...

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Maybe have taking brute or burn damage cause the target to generate an "adrenaline" chemical in their system that dramatically reduces stun effects, it would make non-lethal takedowns possible and prevent easy stun and done kills, as actually doing life threatening damage to someone makes ...

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It would be a nice metabreaker to rogue AIs as well, as you can use this implant to fake a rogue AI if you hide in a locker and use it or something.

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Botany only requires one change and that is removing ambrosia gaia automatic plant care. That way making and mass producing your plants requires a little more work than none at all. Other than that, botany is about as powerful as any other department, with the added problem of being in plain view of...

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Why do disablers do more stamina damage and slowdown than lasers in the first place? why not just have disablers do 20 stamina damage, so they are just a way to disable someone without putting them into crit. If someone managed to down you with a disabler under this system you really dont have room ...

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The strictness of drone laws makes me kind of sad to be honest. They seem to be a holdover from when there were no other methods of perma-dead people from coming back into the round. Now there are several ghost roles that give you full ability to roleplay with other players and effect the round. So ...

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