/tg/Station 13

Make it part of heretics as an opt-in Blood brothers style powerset with the devil and heretic working towards a common goal. Killing the devil would only temporarily banish them if the summoner is left alive, and the devil can revive the summoner with his contract normally, but is under no obligati...

The only EMP I dislike are the instant AOE ones, like the ones changeling and cult get, because you cant really play around them if you are weak to EMPs in any way or are using the roundstart energy weapons. One button and your guns are useless or you're stunned is not fun to fight against. Ions at ...

sounds like something that could be added to the PK borg to make it actually useful. shouldnt get mensons though, that should stay engineering only.

I give this idea a score of Yee out of Haw.

confused rock wrote:having any arcade rewards be beneficial was a mistake

Getting a kick out of this while eating from my snack rig while skating down the halls in my wheely heelies wearing my tacticool turtleneck and shooting security with my crossbow.

Someone is making skillcapes for skills if I recall correctly. Legendary gamer skill also makes you able to win the combat arcade game by just attacking.

Gamer skill is a meme silly skill, it really shouldnt be more than a fun gimmick.

I never really understood why stamina damage was separated from normal damage. It makes no sense for a person with a sucking chest wound to take just as much stamina damage to take down as a healthy person. Why should stamina damage be different from normal damage other than it heals by itself and c...

This is honestly the kind of race additions that should be accepted, it is both mechanically different from humans as well as unique flavor-wise compared to the existing races. Much better than "insert-animal-here" person that usually is suggested.

what are the current timers for meteor rolling right now? They might be too quick to be enabled for picking, if the goal is to shoot for hour long rounds.

Minor objective ideas: Plant a tracker on a crew member. Which would always appear with a kill, kidnap, protect, or strand objective and would actually allow the syndicate target pinpointer to work. Note that the paired objective might not be given to the person with the plant tracker objective. Sip...

i drew a TEG in a freezer/heater setup, please excuse my terrible hand writing and the amount of shake in the picture https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/652627344690905090/687704729534464070/TEG.jpg Ive done that setup before, you need two freezers and heaters, and it produces around 2MW at the...

I kind of look forward to department design using multiple z levels. Imagine medbay where the break room and storage room are upstairs from the rest of the department. Slapping multi-z on the maps we have is a bad idea but if it is actually designed around it you can get some pretty compact but func...

That and Sal-Glu doesn't have this reduced effectiveness scaling with damage and has the added benefit of acting as pseudo-blood which helps with severe bleeds. It also has the advantage of being the real life diluent that doctors use, so it is somewhat intuitive to use as such for anyone with a mi...

You need 3 sacrifices (aka not conversion) to revive 1 cultie 2hich makes it basically only viable 9n robust people or when theres no one to convert That is not as hard as youd think it is considering mindshield implants make you insta-sacrifice. If cult really needs a way to resurrect, a special o...

Slightly related. But Blood cult resurrection rune probably should go now that cloning is gone. Having one side have easy resurrection as well as conversion when the crew only has de-conversion seems counter to the current direction of the games design. Plus it would actually be neat to force people...

The point I try to make when I point out the flaws in just using win-rates is that when you are looking at a problem that is not easily quantifiable, such as the quality of a given game-mode, you need to use qualitative data. So yes, I'm talking about using anecdotes, but a large number of them. Win...

What if you replaced stasis beds with stasis scanners - visually like sleepers but with stasis and without chem injections and maybe with an advanced scanner built in? That way you can't operate on them while they're stasised but you can still put them on ice. Maybe make surgery tables cut decay in...

It should just be manually activated as a low power mode.

this was probably mentioned already but I’d like to see empty cloning and experimental cloning back. It doesnt necessarily need to give the body problems if you just make it use similar resources to regular revival. Having the empty cloner use a significant amount of synthflesh and blood would be a...

On discussions of balance (which this thread is), the current state of balance matters. Winrate isnt a measure of balance in a game focused on the quality of the stories told. This isnt DOTA or a fighting game, a 50/50 winrate doesnt matter if the win or loss is unfun for the players. Losing should...

Changeling suck makes you not viable for revival, that part is intentional and was like that before cloning removal as well. You get ling succed? You're out, permanently. Should probably just replace the brain organ with a dried out/shrunk one though to make it more clear to doctors as they extract...

This. Cult is almost exactly at 50% winrate at the moment. It's one of the best balanced modes out there. If we are gonna go around with the nerfhammer, we should consider what aspect of them should be buffed to counter-balance that. Maybe stuns are bad(tm) but then something else should be buffed ...

Honestly, this is all coming to mean "removing cloning necessitates remapping the entirety of Medbay". Having played a round with a lot of casualties, yes. Medbay does not have any sort of flow, there is no place to store people waiting for treatment, treating people is done in a high as ...

Or just have mindshields block the stun, This would give a reason for actually mindshielding people as all it currently does is make the person instantly explode instead of get converted on the conversion rune.

I REALLY hate that fucking instagib rune.

We could make drinking holy water offer a lasting resistance/immunity to cult stuns. It would be a natural way to allow early-game conversions while offering a method for people to steel themselves before a push into cult bases during the later fighting. Only worry is saddling too much on the Chapl...

An advanced form of surgical drapes that can apply the advanced surgeries anywhere would be a neat way to make medical less reliant on surgical computers. Also, move one of the stasis beds into the main surgical wing, leaving one in the old sleeper room. Most of the time doctors move the surgical co...

Some more ghetto weaponry would be a nice addition. For example making a shiv out of a shard of glass and 1 cloth, both things that can be obtained in perma. It doesnt need to do any more damage than a normal shard but it shouldnt cut your hands. Also make the bathroom cistern useable as a barman st...

Why does cult need a fucking snowflake stun spells when they can just make a fucking stun baton? Cult is just rev on fucking antag hugbox mode.

Part of me thinks Wizard would make a great midround neutral/hostile antag like the space ninja is. It would be interesting for wizards to get "protect" objectives, or other such not directly hostile objectives. I mean, space wizards are supposed to be crazy, so it makes sense for them to ...

W/L ratios are very poor data in a a game like SS13, where the quality of the round is more important than the win itself. Sure the wins might be even, but if a crew win is always a 25 minute code red shuttle rush and the cult win is always a cult-tide snowball curb-stomp it doesn't matter what the ...

bandit wrote:gang might actually not be shit on mrp

Wasnt it completely removed from the code however? Also do not bring back the abomination that was Robustingangs. We already have to deal with the shit that is Robustincult, I dont want to deal with another unbalanced as fuck conversion mode.

Kills-the-Death is unironically a good name for a lizard doctor. When it comes to honorifics, Dr. is at least flexible. You can either have an MD or a PhD depending on the job. And if your a bartender you have a hilarious story about how your degree is fucking useless. Sometimes silly shit can be go...

Making the proximity pinpointer able to detect people with their sensors on but on any setting would make that particular pinpointer actually a nice sidegrade and useful to keep around instead of replacing it as fast as possible. Just a thought, direct upgrades are kind of boring.

Revs is way more fun on Manuel. You actually end up seeing some good RP out of it. I think it could be improved codewise if there were different flavours of revolutionary added, as it can be boring RPing as a communist/anarchist rebel over and over. With minimal code changes, there could be monarch...

Revs is way more fun on Manuel. You actually end up seeing some good RP out of it. I think it could be improved codewise if there were different flavours of revolutionary added, as it can be boring RPing as a communist/anarchist rebel over and over. With minimal code changes, there could be monarch...

Changeling could do with having its combat ability reduced. It doesnt need armblades and adrenals. It can, and should, be traitor with better infiltration tech and a biology spin instead of being the one man immortal murder machine they currently are. Wizard rounds just need mulligan activated on ma...

Qbopper wrote:isn't there some kind of emote wheel or something now

you could add a "FREEZE" or "HANDS UP" emote with a cooldown? I dunno

Security have a sec hailer on their internals masks for this very reason.

i'm not opposed to removing the makeshift shotgun I don't know how to fix the shotguns absurd opness easily, probably by making it twohanded. Increasing armor effectiveness would do wonders for limiting how powerful buckshot is as well. If you want to make the makeshift shotgun less of a threat I w...

RaveRadbury wrote:What do you think is causing this secondary rise? Is it some aftershock of the sssethtide?

Another youtuber named Rimmy released a video a few months after seth, so that could be the reason for the second bump.

Turning the little medbay maint storage rooms on meta and delta into a paramedic lounge/office for equipment would also be a good idea. If I recall correctly baymed codebases tend to have them. It would further differentiate paramedics from medical doctors, as they would have their own gear-up and r...

nianjiilical wrote:i mean if we're being accurate runite armor should make you basically melee proof but die instantly to magic and energy

Runite should have decent melee resistance but be nearly bulletproof if you are going by the source material for the reference.

The only restriction I think should be given to ashwalkers invading the station is grand sabotage. So no plasmaflooding or overloading the SM or anything like that. Stealing supplies should be encouraged, supplies also being the bodies of crewmembers dumb enough to die to ashwalkers.

The paramedic has an uncanny ability to always be doing surgery on your patients when you want him to be out looking for patients, but he is invariably somewhere else when you need him to administer calomel. I think it is a good job, but i wish they had more specialist tools because they are too mu...

I find this job fun from both a practical and RP standpoint and it's possibly my personal favorite bit of crew content so far since the antag freeze started. Only have two bits of feedback: 1: Round start health analyzer maybe? 2: I'm an emergency first responder , presumably... So couldn't there b...

Goon already made it so you had to take your backpack off to get stuff out of it and it's an example of realism that hinders the experience rather than enhances it. Your idea would make it harder for somebody to pull the armoury on you, which is interesting. Especially when you consider the depth o...

only consequence with not allowing ghost court I feel, is mind swap wizards having free reign of madness. Wizard has mindswap but ghost court is banned. it literally becomes a confusing game of deadly guess who But what kinda wizard reveals ghosts with mindswap? Last I checked you can still morphin...

listen pal if I'm cranking hog in atmospherics and some fuckin guy teleports in with a ring of ghosts his ass is grass you better believe I used my fireball wand on him There is a difference between fireballing them once and doing it more than once, making sure they are dead. you can easily run awa...

L_Nacho_Chaos_L wrote:Add a reagent that lets observers enter a body if injected into a body with a functional but empty brain. I want to be Frankenstein, dammit!

Just the ability to shove a posibrain into a human body with some kind of reverse MMI would be great.

Screemonster wrote:add a wizard spell, the opposite of knock, that bolts and depowers all doors in range

the magic word is D'orst Uk

This is actually a good idea, wrong thread.

I wish that cobby chem that healed people the more you beat them up was used more. we gotta buff it It requires being made and is only useful in a niche situation of a person with high brute as well as decent toxin and burn damage. Which is most cases means they are dead. Helbital is neat, but not ...