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Oldman Robustin

Your byond account: ForcefulCJS Your character name: Oldman Robustin Their character name: Jim Otis Their byond account(optional, but useful if you can provide it): --- Server and time: Sibyl, 11:30pm EST Logs and/or screenshots: Not really needed, It's just me calling for his arrest (and not gettin...

Oldman Robustin

I think surgery being able to replace a corrupted organ of the thralls would be an excellent way to revert them. Seems interesting, but I generally imagined their minds were altered, not an organ changed. Feature freeze is also in effect, so it'll have to wait. Make it the brain, expose their brain...

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Someone should make a poll to determine what the average tension level of the station should be Occasional sudden bursts of crime that sec cracks down on? Constant low-level traitor activity? Sec running like headless chickens to get to the latest murder before a new one is called in? The Tensioner...

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I think surgery being able to replace a corrupted organ of the thralls would be an excellent way to revert them.

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I don't see how increasing the number of traitors is supposed to help much. Each one is still going to be individually weak so you'll end up with 10 brigged/dead traitors instead of 6. Lowering the price of some gear will help a bit but I don't really see it changing a whole lot either. What kind o...

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I think using stealth also became less popular with changes. The new hardsuit modes, guns and whatever are.. well, cool and neat. So usually people dont ever step out of suits. But in my experience, combined stealth+assault is very powerful. The attack team makes their way through the station, gunn...

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I would've said flashbaning but I never got to try it since nobody ever takes the shitty projector anyway unless its the clown projecting a horn as LE FUNNY MEME TRAITOR. Anyone, bump traitor up to 30 points for a week. Or give them Syndie uplink as default for a week. ANYTHING to make traitor feel ...

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If sec has caught you in chameleon mode they can just follow you around at a safe distance and call for backup until there's 10 greased up dudes ready to knock you out of disguise and validate you.

It's a mediocre traitor item at best.

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How is it that I'm the bad guy for "forcing" this shit upon people, but it's ok for people to force explosive implants upon me ? It's awesome that your opinion is worth more than mine!! Oh man I don't think I could do a parody of shitty coderbus logic better than that. Explosive implants ...

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I also dislike traitor items as a means to balance against the AI because that leaves out cult, rev, changeling, and thralls/shadowlings. It also forces you to buy said traitor items instead of being able to use whatever tools you have around you, which is a terrible waste of the sandbox elements o...

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I don't see how you can buff certain traitor items without making them absolute bullshit. ForcefulCJS is talking about parapen C4 but that was not fun, or interesting - It was a really dull way of killing people with more or less no counterplay. The revolver is already the strongest gun you'll find...

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Of Kor's ideas, I think all of them are terrible with the sole exception of the portable crew monitor, and that can be simply fixxed by requiring CMO access to use, and needs an ID logged in, just like any other computer. Since this also means that a tator could see CMO with it out, disarm, steal t...

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I've been planning a thread like this, but like the OP I felt like the issue would require a long dissertation that I'm really not in the mood for. Hard cap is a red herring and the people pushing for it are just taking another step at reducing the appealing attributes of Sybil while getting nothing...

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lumipharon wrote:Pretty sure that was a seperate change someone made to patches/bruisepacks etc, to not work without exposed skin.

Yea but the hardsuit change was around when I last played. Meaning whoever added locked hardsuits should have been able to foresee this.

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It is planing to fail and paying for it making it more likely that you WILL fail psychologically and resource wise. That is a deep problem with purchasing a wimpy self gib implant instead of having it as a default. Uplink implant is sorta similar but it can actually work though that is mostly due t...

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The whole point of the change was to increase player freedom. If I don't want to explode when I die, I shouldn't be forced to. If players want to try and roleplay with captured operatives, they should be able to even if it's "not a roleplay mode". And if someone does want to explode when ...

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Also apparently the hypospray injects Saline-Glucose.

This all reads like a bad joke, but knowing Coderbus it's all completely well-intentioned but completely ignorant of how the game operates.

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1. Go into crit in front of medical supplies 2. Fellow Nukeops can't remove my suit to apply bruisepacks/syringes 3. I'm unhealable because of some completely insane rationale from the coderbus. Ok I get it, people could loot nukeops. That was the punishment for fluking or rambo'ing, explosive impla...

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I'm looking at the assembly code but I cannot see anything wrong with it. If you paint the airlock during assembly it will set the path that it will use to create the finalized airlock to the glass Research airlock subtype, which has heat_proof set to 1, and if you paint the airlock after assembly ...

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So I built one similar to the screenshot, near atmos, with 1 airlock, and it worked fine. Then I built one with 4 research airlocks to the North/South/East/West and then 4 walls covering the corners, and it went back to leaking like crazy. I can't figure out this voodoo. Why would it not leak out of...

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>Be captain >Reports of gang tags and converting >Want cargo loyal so we can get more implants if need be >Cargo tech on duty runs from the sight of me, chase him into maint and implant him >BLAH BLAH LIFE OF CRIME. He names his leader, AI tracks him, he's arrested within 30 seconds. >Gang leader te...

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I just did it.

It's exactly as he said, research painted airlock are magic that don't leak anything.

My dreams are now attainable.

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When I programmed the airlock painter I wrote it in such a way that it will always set heat_proof to 0, EXCEPT for the glass research airlock where it will set it to 1. So if you want a heat-proof airlock, turn it into a glass airlock during construction, then paint it in the Research palette. Thin...

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>fucking a numerous amount of my points and like half of oldman's fuck it, just merge it and we'll see how it goes, people will hate lings anyways inb4 the new ling meta is to farm mining mobs inb4 the new ling meta is get the spider puke ability asap, use in isolated area, eat own spiders That's a...

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http://i.imgur.com/s7j2j3A.png

Seriously. Within 5 seconds of firing it up I was being crushed and burned standing a few tiles away. When I've done similar fire mixes in Toxins or the Incinerator I could stand between the airlocks and not feel a thing.

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These ablities and point systems basicly push lings towards snowballing, while thats not necessarily bad (as pretty much thats what happens with a shadowling), it does completely remove people from the round via what I assume would be a gibbing. As far as I recall we've always tried to avoid antag'...

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So wait, when did an antagonist killing people become a bad thing again? There is a difference between traitor running in hallways gunning down everyone, so shuttle gets called. And : pew, dead, absorbed, not noticed by anyone x 28 times + recall shuttle, because I did not get all the abilities. Im...

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Yeah, I can see how implants can be too OP. I was thinking of having it like cult where it doesn't deconvert people, but can block conversions. Or make it require two implants --one to deconvert, another to block future conversions :) Please God No. When it's a game mode where it is easy enough to ...

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Again, implants are the single greatest factor shitting on Gang War right now. 1. Implant a tagger 2. He names every gang leader/member he's ever seen 3. Sec PDA's the AI with names and within 5 minutes one of the gangs is completely eviscerated with no hopes of recovering. 4. Sec has an army of loy...

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Yes, Yes, and Yes to all these changes. Ling is one of the most common antags and yet they are far more likely to induce sleep than fear. Anyone who claims getting more points will make them OP, unkillable, or as one idiot put it "exponentially more powerful" has clearly never played ling ...

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Rounds go on far too long MUCH MORE than they are cut too short. Sometimes even if WE CAN FIX THIS, its still just a better round to call the shuttle and enjoy the slight thrill of evacuating a mangled station than repairing it all and spending an additional hour on station while most of the crew go...

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burning is one thing because there are so many ways to deal with burning, one of which is a hard counter, but damn man i can't defend morphine Even if you overcome the knockout with chemistry, I don't think there is a way to deal with the overdosage and addiction effects. Dropping items is usually ...

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>Dark green bleb in Viro, crew has it contained to the room. Everyone is responding almost perfectly, no way is the blob going to survive this. >Get splashed several tiles away >YOUVE TAKEN TOO MUCH MORPHINE >Medic drags me away >Literally spend the next 15 minutes in Medbay unconscious >WAKE UP >BA...

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Things were better for a few days, now the last 48 hours has been creeping toward the 50% button-shit ratio again.

8 Wizards are not fun. Meteor Spam isn't fun. Invincible Vines aren't fun. List goes on.

Stahp

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Going straight out of Chapel massdriver should get you to Derelict every time.

Going straight south from lower arrivals airlocks should get you to Pirate radio station every time.

Not sure how to get to Old Tcomms/White ship, but I should have it sooner or later.

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I think its fine as is. Bigger gangs seems like it would ruin the fun and just turn things into a warzone. This isnt Rev. It will never be rev due to the fundamentally different objectives. It's also possible to make bigger gangs without opening the door to flash spamming a department and turning t...

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No. Just No.

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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So in the same post you say that you should remove cooldown on gangpens, literally turning it back into rev V rev without the easily spotted FLASH, but also complain that gangs don't function well in large groups? Make them bigger AND also easier to coordinate, boom now you have a decent gametype i...

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Gang war gets shit on by security during high-pop games. Loyalty implant destroys the gangs way too easily, once one dude gets caught tagging he squeals on the whole gang and gang cannot hope to fight sec. It plays like a shitty revolution with a high cooldown conversion tool, easily identifiable co...

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A recruitment message combined with hidden HQ storage would do wonders for centralizing the gang. Trying to organize new recruits is frustrating since you're already juggling a lot of tasks as gang leader. I don't think the gangs need to become massive, but almost every gang war I see ends up someth...

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The maint mechanic was actually pretty good. Encouraging gangs to tag from maint meant that maint was the most valuable territory to control. If you wanted to beat maint. sprayers you had to either spray inside the territory away from walls or fight for control of maint. I thought it was pretty appr...

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So are you just going to bitch about every new change that happened since you were gone or what I've made one feedback thread? The rest of any complaining is either confined to OOC (isn't that what it's for?) or was admin stuff that's on the policy forum. In terms of in-game mechanics the only thin...

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Yeaaaaaahh..... Chemblob is only nominally balanced at best. The win rate for blob seems to be quite high to me (anecdotal). This is because that while there exists a counter for many blob types (but not all- omnizine blob I'm looking at you), there are simply too many blob types and the counters a...

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Uh I definitely played Blob when xray lasers were a thing. Telescience was a thing too and that's something that current blobs don't have to deal with. I also noticed they seem to get stupid amounts of resources now. I'm seeing them throw down 10-15 squares a minute before they even have their first...

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The blob has a 50% chance of winning. What do you think happens when we remove the reagents? My answer to this is to have chemicals that can counter blobs. For example I know that a fire extinguisher(water) fucks up certain blobs (forget which one). I never had difficulty winning as blob before it ...

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Steelpoint wrote:At the very least some of the more insane reagent's were removed (I think). I recall that one reagent that essentially melted anything it hit. That was over powered to all hell.

Wasn't removed. My evaporated spacesuit, bag, and all my equipment yesterday testified to that.

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We find the blob in incinerator before the Level 5 biohazard announcement even shows up. I haul down all the blob fighting tools from security. The crew is alert and prepared. JK THE BLOB MADE ITS FACTORY RED SO NOW EVERY 10 SECONDS IT SENDS OUT A MINIBLOB THAT HAS SMOKE WHICH LIGHTS EVERYONE ON FIR...

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My BYOND: ForcefulCJS Admin: Vekter Time: ~1:20pm EST I was HoS for one of the first times since I'd returned. I was finally prepared to fully shoulder the shitstorm that is SS13. Level 5 Biohazard shows up and the HoP immediately hands out all-access without warning or asking me. The armory is loot...

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That said, telling security "You've done too good a job of suppressing the antags, as punishment we're going to fuck your station up" is kind of shitty too. It would be nice if security would more commonly get some powerful toys or a ninja ally or some sort of pseudo-antag objective to ma...

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It does depend on what you class as an event. Something that completely re-structures the game is actually, ironically, less disruptive. Because peoples expectations change when things seem vanilla and then shit tons of meatyores hit etc. I think we do have to be careful about restricting events th...

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