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Look at this admin making up rules. Reminds me of something I wrote earlier. >making up rules. I mean if you intentionally go out of your way to act in bad faith and roundstart suicide as nonantag every fucking round regardless of whatever job slots you waste you're a massive faggot and deserve a r...

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I also don't feel like there should be a hard number where murderboning is/isn't allowed because then we'd get rules lawyers saying, "well, there were 31 players on the server and the lowpop threshold is 30 so I didn't break any rules." it's not retarded because there would be "rules...

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The fact is that these issues are rarely black and white when they come up in gameplay and you get people grinding their teeth when they get told off, regardless of which side they're on. These are all issues you as an admin are there to solve, I don't see how it's bad that you have to administrate...

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"This is true regardless of which xeno simplemob gets spawned and sentience spammed? You can't create carp because they have deathbolt toys and can't use them etc." The carp doesn't replicate by itself indefinitely. Nor do most xeno simplemobs (and in fact xenomorphs were removed from the...

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make it so you can cuff them to a powersink and maxcap if they reach some ridiculous power number

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Right but it doesn't matter when the system is easily overturn-able by the next set of headmins tbh. it does matter because they apply until they are overturned, and the overturning shouldn't work retroactively, as in, punishing someone for doing something that was allowed but the headmins decide t...

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Now that healing is harder we can finally do the right thing and nerf antags by adding drag slowdown That's more of a way to make brigging someone take a really long time. didn't the drag slowdown PR make it so standing people weren't affected by it? we could just ammend the wiki where it recommend...

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"if you don't let us/them suicide/ghost/space ourselves/themselves roundstart repeatedly we'll/they'll tide really hard instead"
why are these people even being paid attention lmao
just make it so x ammount of consecutive first 10 min self-caused deaths get you flagged

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Q: why not just say “the crew has consented to any form of violence or harm about security so nothing sec does violates law one”? (...)and could be overridden by saying “ai I don’t consent any more” yes, and I said as much in my original post, you admins really cannot read besides, it's a futuristi...

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If you're burnt out perhaps you should stop playing for a bit, even if that break has to be forced upon you with a ban
"but many people will do x bad thing that gets you banned for repeated offenses"
just ban 'em, lol

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You're in a policy thread. The only way that your interpretation works is if your extended lore about the game's setting were somehow canon and not just something you made up out of thin air. As far as rules are concerned, Space Law is guidelines and it contains nothing about an implicit consent to...

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Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Fuck off you shitbag

cedarbridge wrote:This here is just making shit up.

I just put forward an rp friendly interpretation with the game's lore and the rule that says consented harm is not harm :(
How does it not make sense that employees of nanotrasen agreed to nanotrasen's space law?

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no one forced them to spawn as spiders, it's their fault if they miss or ignore the message telling them they're not an antag, they shouldn't even assume it is that way tbh, being an antag should be something your maker bestows upon you

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Are you just pretending to be a moron so people have something to read on the toilet, or do you actually have trouble understanding that no OOC in IC means no OOC in IC? If someone accidentally slips up, admins understand that it happens sometimes. If someone continually slips up, they'll be warned...

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No one gets punished for slipping up once in a blue moon. At worst you get noted so we can see if its a pattern of behaviour or a once in a blue moon misbehaviour. And I'll say, as I've said for a long time. Notes are not a punishment. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=17568&am...

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One could argue in an IC-setting that, since the humans are employees of nanotrasen and have signed a contract accepting certain terms, like the space law they have set as their justice system, that the consequence of forceborging is something that the human has consented to, and as thus, the AI sho...

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the short of the message I wish to convey in the following paragraphs is: the spirit of the rule against OOC in IC should be to prevent netspeak and other forms of nonsensical abbreviations, not a justification for filling your note quota How do our characters "know" anything about the in-...

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cedarbridge wrote:Gibbed is a gaming term and has existed since Quake 1.

so it is an out if character reference and should be bannable right?

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things You pointed out the intended way, relying on medical, I pointed out the alternatives, which there are many, just like with most other systems in the game e.g.: sec weapons vs makeshift weapons, medbay vs holodeck medbay/PANDEMIC, science vs golem ship/derelict again, tell me why relying on m...

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Git Dat Disc wrote:I have to rely on that medical does have the supplies needed to treat me and Chemistry has made medical supplies

how is this a bad thing?
aside from the fact that you can just make another chem machine with other disgruntled greytides', engineer's or scientist's help

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fixing it doesn't look like much of an emergency since it's been known for a while now

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What about people that purposefully use their job's privileges for random grief, can I start ahelping about that because I am tired of seeing botanists turn people into golems or planting shadowshrooms in the hallways on a daily basis ahelp the shadowshrooms, I got a note for it a year ago so I can...

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on the other hand, if it heals cyborgs it should heal mechs too, oddy can now be a part of a mech squad

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I think he meant you can just clean away the ashes from the cremator to answer his "at least it leaves evidence" argument

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if youre looking for a baton and your thought process leads to you killing beepsky you're probably retarded anyway on a side note just grab the emp from the maint pocket above cargo and emp him while he's in arrivals or dorms and smack him a couple times with a fire extuingisher or something or tid...

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And then no one responds because they either didn’t notice, didn’t care, or don’t know where disposals is. Last time I got stuck down disposals I was screaming for help for a good couple of minutes before anyone showed up. And what if comms are down and someone shoves you down disposals? Just die? ...

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Cobby wrote:I'm going to ban you if you play silicon and anyone on the station dies no matter what lengths you take since this means you've broken law 1 and allowed for harm.

good luck I don't play silicon lmao

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Malkraz wrote:Silicons should only make attempts to isolate the mech away from the rest of the crew.

>close a firelock
>it breaks in two hits
welp there it goes, I did my best, hope an admin doesn't bwoink me for breaking law 1 allowing harm

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Cobby wrote:"If I can't kill it then there's nothing I can do" = you should get off silicon

I bet sitting on your hands while a mech rampages wont get you bwoinked

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hulks themselves arent human, destroying the mecha has a significant chance of critting the human inside the mech itself isn't human either, there might not even be a human piloting it at all, and if there were, the harm was consented because the pilot didn't step out of the very harmful mech he fo...

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wouldn't the rule about hulks or future harm count in this case? unless they put a tracker on it so the AI can lock it, they're not much different from hulks imo

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the complete removal of waste sorting from cargo means that anyone that gets dumpstered gets lead directly to disposals. Why do people insist on making the disposals loop safe for travel? It's the garbage disposals system. Jump into the back of a garbage truck and see where it leads you. In fact, I...

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Somehow nobody has pointed out that welding goggles and the welding gas mask exist, it's not like welding would be impossible for plasmamen just because of the helmet. Welding protection goes in the helmet or mask slot (for the mask and goggles, respectively) Welding goggles go in the eye slot, the...

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when fellow sec officers actually read sec comms
when fellow sec officers actually say what they brigged someone for
when the warden notices how tidy and up to date I keep sec records and permas the retard with 11 entries

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Which part of the oath says that you vow to never use effective mining tools again? One of the best ways to help people as a miner is to give the station a lot of materials, yet that's a lot slower without plasma cutters. I can spend 10 seconds swearing an oath that I will never kill anyone with a ...

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FloranOtten wrote:If I remember correctly, it makes you unable to use laser cutters/proto-kinetic accelerators. Bit shit to have to mine with a pickaxe.

people in gulag do it just fine

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what do you mean you can't do surgery while being a pacifist? is that a recent change or are you bullshitting? like when you imply you can't just ignore monsters to mine or stun+cuff on help intent, which is 99% of sec gameplay

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Request consoles and newscasters are super cool but no one uses them because they require some thought and reading ability to get anything out of. Request consoles even have a button to summom security to the room. They also have a cool feature to swipe your ID to verify you made your request. Fire...

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how is asking if we really are entitled to good heads of staff not related to the thread?
can you get head of staff banned for not knowing all of your department for example?

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I thought we weren't entitled to anything except rules being followed (and even that is not absolute because of the "secret rule of mayhem") there's also rule 10: Losing is part of the game. Your character will frequently die, sometimes without even a possibility of avoiding it. Events wil...

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terranaut wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:people who try to save you when you're in crit even if you're not their metafriend
isnt that the norm unless you're a traitor or they pissed you off earlier

bagil people just run past you or even loot the free access off of you if you're not an assistant (and I wouldn't have it any other way)

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Farquaar wrote:OOC spam is a much worse problem than head of staff megaphones imo

can't you mute OOC already?

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wubli wrote:Jimm acted on his own and we went back on his decision because us, the headmins, felt like it was unfair, since there are no rules against what Malkevin or Intigracy did.

I meant to post this yesterday and missed that, my bad

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Alright after some digging I've come up with a stronger suport for my previous argument. The new rules you intend to apply to recent event posting clearly contradicts past trends of your own moderation, for you were present and even engaged in discussion at this time and about these subjects (referr...

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No matter what, an admin is going to have to interpret the rule in order to ban someone for an offense. You will always get some degree of arbitration. Rules aren't there just to justify the actions of the people in charge, they also work by letting the users have an idea of what the boundaries of ...

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I was assistant and I welded down walls into different places like the grey nigger I still am until I went blind and someone killed me

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That job s moth sec officer/warden; I'd rather not have to choose between being fully blind, having no secHUDs, or being blinded/flashed by my coworkers' flashbangs/someone whom I know has a flash just because the flash protection helmets available all work TOO well. have you tried not playing a ra...

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I mean, it would be like resisting arrest in real life. you could use it as an excuse as a security officer to give them more time, or gulag time. if you even make it to the brig before it get's snatched due to you going slow this could apply to rev and cult, not just assistants, implying sec doesn...

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Grabbing anybody standing up should not slow you down, cuffs included. Roller beds should do the same, plus they already stop the bleeding. Dragging anybody horizontal should slow you down, even if they are cuffed-- you are literally dragging a body. Dragging any item above normal should slow you d...

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just make drag with cuffs not slow you down, the only value in stun/drag kill combo is that you can drag someone away very swiftly, having to cuff them slows you right down. >doctor has to cuff patient to get him to medbay before he bleeds out just make it so dragging them on roller beds make you r...

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