/tg/Station 13

Istoprocent1

I don't play detective to fuck over people. I play detective to do my job, which is catching the bad guys. I like to think that the reason some people complain about me is due to my better-than-average detection skills. The same way people complain about somebody being super robust at murderboning -...

Istoprocent1

If you see a crime happening go nuts. But main job of det is finding out who committed a crime, set em to wanted and tell sec to bring em in. You can then have your fun telling the guy how you caught em if thats your thing. If sec isnt cooperating with you then fine go get em or if you see them whi...

Istoprocent1

space law doesn't matter under the current rules. I have used Space Law as a guide to determine, whether someone is open for Rule 4 or not - most if not all Capital Crimes are pretty strong indication that somebody is acting in an antagonistic way. I think we need a definitive valid guide to preven...

Istoprocent1

I would say it matters. Think of it like a clown who ditches his shoes at round start except the crew can bully the clown. The det who runs off and demands HUDs and various sec gear and then acts like sec all round is worthy of ridicule and often gets a lot of it... but he has the means to fuck you...

Istoprocent1

She was cremated for being a dick and griefing security (causing unnecessary disruption to the round for security by acting like an antag) for no IC justification, also because she was eligible for execution. Could you elaborate on this? Especially how you believe greifed security. In broad terms d...

Istoprocent1

After sleeping on it and coming back, looking through the logs again, I sitll would stand by this, you had options of securing them back to Security, even killing them and leaving for dead would not have resulted in the ban. As the Detective I would of been fine with you arresting and sentencing fo...

Istoprocent1

Why would you want to further nerf the underdog? No access. Starts out with a mindshield implant. Taser (1 hit gg - 4 shots) / Disabler (3 hit gg - 8 shots) > Revolver (4 hits - 6 shots, hassle to reload in combat) - Revolver has been nerfed to the point that one is better asking the warden for a ta...

Istoprocent1

alright, not personally invested in this appeal but it's 100% true that if you break into the captain's office you are for all intents and purposes valid, dunno if that extends to cremation but i see greyshits dead all the time for it to quote one of the headmins in discord 'that is complete shit h...

Istoprocent1

Where is "Capital Crimes" referenced in the rules? My search function must be faulty. I did find this, though; The 'act like an antag, get treated like one' part of Rule 4 of the main rules also apply to security. Stunning an officer repeatedly, using lethal or restricted weapons on them,...

Istoprocent1

If you cite Space Law in an adminhelp or anywhere outside IC communications, you will be laughed at. As the rules specifically state, security "is expected to use non-lethal methods first in a conflict before escalating to lethal methods" where reasonably possible. You had the engineer st...

Istoprocent1

I mentioned if they were really going to let you go because what you did was incredibly unfair to the player. Based on the logic you're explaining here, we should allow low ranks of security to execute greytiders on the spot just because they may be traitors. You don't know either how they got the ...

Istoprocent1

You were the one asking if TheMidnightRose really let Istoprocent go in asay. Lets pretend you don't have any vested interest in this matter. Let's clear something up, shall we? You're a detective on this round. To start with, the detective should be investigating crime scenes and not acting as a se...

Istoprocent1

Typically theft alone isn't enough to be classified as 'antagonistic'. Through your logic officers can kill and cremate anyone they see committing theft. We have higher standards for people playing security then we do for random assistants. Assistants don't care about space law so when one assistan...

Istoprocent1

For one, while we are trying to get the RP of the server up, space law is still just a suggestion to improve security, two, space law also says that the DETECTIVE is not allowed to summary execute or even sentence people unless they are the only security staff alive/on station, third the ban actual...

Istoprocent1

while not directly involved i was on at the time, there was discussion in adminbus and a conclusion was drawn additionally i hear every round you play detective people complaining in dchat at your conduct as detective, while this isn't entirely related to the appeal it's something to be noted and t...

Istoprocent1

Byond account and character name: istoprocent / Krokodil Banning admin: TheMidnightRose Ban type (What are you banned from?): 1 day ban + 7 day sec ban Ban reason and length: For cremating an assistant that gave all access to themselves after recovering the Captain's spare . Time ban was placed (inc...

Istoprocent1

Can I point out to everyone who says our rules are too long. People like istoprocent are the reason why. Rules need to be well-defined. Punishing people at a whim, because they weren't active at forums and read bunch of random topics is whats causing player frustration, even more if players are abl...

Istoprocent1

funny how nobody has this problem except for you, huh? also this is completely off topic and not feedback for arianya so Thats the off topic you brought up yourself. People dont have a problem, because reasonable admins are not enforcing every single nuance of OOC in IC. I had a negative experience...

Istoprocent1

He's a good admin, willing to learn and kind but just. Always asks our opinion when he has doubts, instead of going "solo" and commiting a mistake. While istoprocent1 opinion is to be respected, i think it comes from a point of anger instead of clarity due to the ban he thinks is unjust. ...

Istoprocent1

if you understand what immersion is and are making an effort to maintain it, it's pretty obvious how to avoid ooc in ic. I fully understand what immersion is and am able to immerse myself. The OOC in IC rule needs to be clarified, because somebody could say that using numerals in chat is breaking t...

Istoprocent1

Lol maybe you shouldn’t break the rules moron Thats the main issue here. There are no clear cut rules for OOC in IC. I double checked the main rules (other than the niche policy, which shouldn't be used as the main rules, of saying "its" gamemode or antag). Obviously we have established t...

Istoprocent1

Round 98839, ran a shitty event by giving brain trauma to everyone. Round ended in 30 minutes, because of obvious reasons. Was an antag and died to lights burning me. Edit: Also ignores ahelps. Was asking whether saying VALID unironically counts as OOC in IC or not, such as [2018-12-18 21:30:40.461]...

Istoprocent1

Negative. Biased rulings in favor of an admin. Assimilation (gamemode) and Hivemind Hosts (antags) may be OOC in IC, but not hiveminds. The line between IC and OOC is well-defined. Your inability to understand how to not break our only rule about immersion is pretty telling. They kinda aren't. It w...

Istoprocent1

The ban isn't unjust. We enforce things differently now, but that doesn't mean that, at the time, you weren't breaking the rules. Also, your ban from chemist is not a "rule 0 chemist permaban." It's just a permaban from chemist. Your server ban was a rule 0, but that's separate. We rarely...

Istoprocent1

Doesn't fit any of the rules and I do think that its IC issue, keep the notes.

Istoprocent1

If the ban is unjust (rule 0 permaban for minor tiding, i probably could have made a complaint in 2016 but i refrained from it), then the note attached to it shouldn't exist, regardless whether anybody thinks that lubing hallways is an IC issue or not. I am sure you have a reason to keep it as you h...

Istoprocent1

Negative. Biased rulings in favor of an admin. Assimilation (gamemode) and Hivemind Hosts (antags) may be OOC in IC, but not hiveminds.

Istoprocent1

It looks like you spent most of your tank on trying to call out a nonexistent admin conspiracy. That doesn't get you very good miles per gallon, I'd recommend actually trying to prove your innocence or getting the policy changed in policy discussion. I also don't see an issue with "Hiveminds c...

Istoprocent1

I'd be good with that but can you prove using logs that this is what happened for any of these lines: [2018-12-16 18:10:42.997] SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) "Tanner doesnt have an implant it might be hiveminds!" (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 158, 2)) -snip- [2018-12-16 18:11:24.355] SAY: Ist...

Istoprocent1

To hopefully clarify, saying it's X implies there can only be a singular threat to the station at any time. This is only true because you (the player) know that the antagonist is dictated by a gamemode. You never hear people say "IT'S ABDUCTORS" or "IT'S MORPH" although they are...

Istoprocent1

Saying revs confirmed isn’t against the rules. Saying its revs is. Theres a difference and I don’t think you can distinguish it. Saying REVS is short for saying ITS REVS, because one can ask a question "What is?" English is a second language to me, but its clear that the intent wasn't to ...

Istoprocent1

OK I'll go through logs when I get back from holiday and note everyone that's broken this rule. Also you're implying he is omniscient and sees all. Guess what admins are only human. Stop being so salty that you got caught and others just so happened to not. It's starting to look really pathetic. Yo...

Istoprocent1

Saying revs confirmed isn’t against the rules. Saying its revs is. Theres a difference and I don’t think you can distinguish it. Saying REVS is short for saying ITS REVS, because one can ask a question "What is?" English is a second language to me, but its clear that the intent wasn't to ...

Istoprocent1

So you're asking us to uphold the rules non-selectively. OK we'll do that as we have been. I still see 0 reason for this appeal other than soapboxing. Perhaps this is a peanut post and if the headmins decide it is please delete it. But you aren't asking for an appeal, you're salty you got caught br...

Istoprocent1

As an admin, I often hold votes to choose the next map, but I don't have any particular bias towards any maps, I more have a bias towards elaborate voting systems. It's perfectly within the realm of admin fiat to just choose a map round after round without any player input, but I wanted to I suppos...

Istoprocent1

Byond account and character name: istoprocent - krokodil Banning admin: Coiax Ban type (What are you banned from?): Unfair note under rule 2. Ban reason and length: Warned, kept using the roundtype in an OOC manner, "its hiveminds" ,"it might be hiveminds", "hiveminds confir...

Istoprocent1

Byond account and character name: istoprocent (N/A) Banning admin: Ausops Ban type (What are you banned from?): Jobban - Chemist Ban reason and length: Permanent - Original note from Ausops: Public hallway lube nades are an IC issue to him. Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2016? Server you...

Istoprocent1

[2018-12-16 18:10:42.997] SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) "Tanner doesnt have an implant it might be hiveminds!" (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 158, 2)) -snip- [2018-12-16 18:11:24.355] SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) "Start implanting crew, if Tanner wasnt cloned its hiveminds." (Port Bow...

Istoprocent1

All I am saying is that my experience has been negative. Saying "We have X" over "Its X" is just nitpicking on semantics rather than immersion breaking OOC in IC. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

Istoprocent1

Negative. Has been forcing Donut Station for awhile (votes for donut himself and resolves ties in favor of donut). Nitpicks on small things and goes straight to noting, even when normal talking would do. On a sidenote there is no round type called Hiveminds, its called Assimilators and saying "...

Istoprocent1

Negative. Has been forcing Donut Station for awhile (votes for donut himself and resolves ties in favor of donut). Nitpicks on small things and goes straight to noting, even when normal talking would do. On a sidenote there is no round type called Hiveminds, its called Assimilators and saying "...

Istoprocent1

Fourth wall is broken on bwoinks as well. Then again - your server, your rules.

Istoprocent1

MrStonedOne, you can see that half of this thread has been deleted and some of it was just bunch a random stuff to derail the topic. Bwoinking is always a big deal for a player, especially if they have had a bad experience before (I stopped playing Assistants due to Gouty's ordeal). Security might b...

Istoprocent1

Can you detail to us what exactly you're complaining about? Can you please not derail this topic? You are an admin, please act like one. I'm not derailing it. I'm confused about what you're complaining about. We've addressed that the OOC in IC note was valid, bwoinking you was valid. What else coul...

Istoprocent1

BeeSting12 wrote:Can you detail to us what exactly you're complaining about?

Can you please not derail this topic? You are an admin, please act like one.

Istoprocent1

did istoprocent take any essential department gear, if so what? if not, why bring it up? dat said he was processed and released, and then straitjacketed, isto said he was straitjacketed so the warden or hos could implant him, was the timeline of events a first arrest, then a second arrest by istopr...

Istoprocent1

You broke a rule. You admit you broke a rule. You were noted for breaking the rule. This complaint is stupid. Technically I'm breaking the rules here because admins shouldn't handle their own complaint. No, you're certainly allowed to respond to accusations against you in a complaint directed at yo...

Istoprocent1

Also, I would like to point out this: 2. If you are not an admin or directly involved with the complaint (You are the guy who was banned, you saw what happened, you were his victim, etc.) then do not post in the complaint.

Bunch of admins grouping up on a single guy is not cool.

Istoprocent1

You're missing the point that you were bwoinked to investigate an issue raised by another player, and then during that investigation, you broke a rule entirely of your own volition. The gameplay was already interrupted for both of us at that point. We were the only ones with the ghosts and admins l...

Istoprocent1

A wrong doesn't outdo a right and a right doesn't outdo a wrong. Regardless of the actual investigation or situation, if you decide to OOC in IC or IC in OOC during it, you bring upon yourself a separate issue which then must be ruled. Someone else breaking the rules doesn't mean you get to as well...

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