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Tearling

It'd be very hard to prove what security officer B knew, unless he admits it himself or he has to interact with something that leaves a trace in the logs before he turns the corner. In the example you give, lets say the accuser is lying. How does Security Officer B know the accuser is lying if he's...

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Imagine how easy it would be for a misunderstanding to occur when one sec off actually does beat you, then another comes around the corner and hears you saying that, then takes that as a chance to beat you into crit. Let's say accuser is saying that security officer A is beating him. If security of...

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I miss the old headmin ruling that if you claimed sec was beating/executing you, they immediately got a free pass to do that to you. That sounds based. If this was 6 months ago I'd've voted to bring that back. Imagine how easy it would be for a misunderstanding to occur when one sec off actually do...

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I always liked resource scarcity. It creates conflict, and motivates people. Then again I also have (probably) rose tinted glasses for pre-orm days. Most games where scarcity is fun, they're fun because there's something at the end of the scarcity. In frost punk the whole game revolves around the i...

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I really can't imagine why people make fun of manuel for being a snowflake zone for half-baked roleplay and... oh...

I really can't imagine why people make fun of manuel for having half-baked roleplay.

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Let me hear your worst, most absolutely disagreeable opinions on game design and what mechanics in this game should be like? For game design: I have no idea if it would be feasibly possible without completely re-writing the code, but I would love a gigantic map. Not like multi-z level shit, but jus...

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Jackraxxus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:10 pm
Tearling wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:40 pm Spookuni doesn't like that rule, and for some reason, spookuni was made a headmin.
I've been staring at this post for a solid like 5 minutes and I don't yet know what they meant by this.

I implore you to keep staring at the post, dwelling on it to your hearts content.

Tearling

HOLY SHIT WHAT HAPPENED TO RULE 4 ANTAGS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT Maybe the rules of the game being suspended in EoRG for the normal minute or so that it lasts while the server resets means that the fundamental idea that "maybe you shouldn't be a dick to the people behind the other screens" ...

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it actually negatively effected ZERO people because one of those people was sinfulbliss (also our friend) and the other person was some assistant who was also just fucking with him this wasnt worthy of a note Out of curiosity, what do you have to say about the 2 rounds that he allegedly did this in...

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Really puzzled with the headmin decision here. I wonder how will this precedent have a bearing in the future regarding punishing players even if they didn't bend/break rules. Sounds terrible, but maybe I'm just being too dramatic about it. I guess they missed the old days of Nervere. Maybe they'll ...

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They have picked up 7 notes (one of which was a ban) since 13th Oct this year. One about silicon law priority, one about calling someone a ling as a joke that ended in a lynching, one about inscribing an apocalypse rune in an actively-being-used summoning location as a cultist, one for spraypaintin...

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Maybe the rules of the game being suspended in EoRG for the normal minute or so that it lasts while the server resets means that the fundamental idea that "maybe you shouldn't be a dick to the people behind the other screens" is also suspended; irrelevant other context (like the normal mi...

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sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:35 pm Tearling, let me ask you - at what point did you sell your soul?

When Tohg7 ascended

Tearling

It's about the Fun Economy. If admins start to ban people for EORG it'll be worst for everyone (except for maybe a few manuelites), therefor, I return your argument back to you. It's about the fun economy. Either way, they didn't break the rules. The rules are pretty black and white when it comes t...

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The spam messages were sent to one (1) player, the captain. The tradition is that one unjustified murder generally gets you a dayban with no prior history. They were not only sent to the captain. Also, the spam messages take up the logs, which can make it hard to log-dive in some cases. Also appare...

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Dax Dupont wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:43 am This is a thinly veiled ban request

It's pretty obviously an admin complaint.

Tearling

like if i come up to you IRL and go "hi hello i'd like to be your friend" and 20 minutes later the cops wanna shit on me, you're going to attack the cops because you've known me for 20 minutes? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/976946868061884496/1045104357751935026/IMG_6596.png hi...

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WineAllWine wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:58 am wait, this is an admin complaint? When I first saw it I thought it was a lame ban appeal...but a complaint? Against Iain, one of Terry's best admins?

Even the best can make mistakes.

Tearling

I don't think Seth gets it. This appeal should extend their ban. As worthy of a case as this would likely be, there are numerous reasons why it's a bad idea to extend bans due to appeals. If your ban could be extended simply for disagreeing with an admin, it would discourage everyone from appealing...

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Chances are I'd get ahelped. Because ahelping when someone ruins your 30 minute project is the normal thing to do, and should be encouraged. What's not normal is to stun cuff the person, hear that it's an accident, then throw them into a plasmafire without once considering that maybe ahelping would...

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man sometimes they get it right and when you see it, you know it was reasonable (Lighting someone's workplace on fire is a party foul as far as Escalation Policy, which operates in conjunction with Rule One Precedent Four). I see chemists setting chemistry on fire by accident all the time and not o...

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man sometimes they get it right and when you see it, you know it was reasonable (Lighting someone's workplace on fire is a party foul as far as Escalation Policy, which operates in conjunction with Rule One Precedent Four). I see chemists setting chemistry on fire by accident all the time and not o...

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The unpopular opinion would simply be the wrong option in this case. Not subjectively wrong, objectively wrong. The unpopular opinion you're stating is objectively wrong in this case is: That a player should not take the rules into their own hands and round remove someone for breaking rule 1 preced...

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I can point to many instances in which headmins go against the popular opinion. I'm talking about these headmins specifically, and specifically this term. I'm specifically referencing a case where they went against popular opinion and got huge backlash for it, which would, of course, cause them to ...

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Since this is a big post I'll just hide a prediction at the end. Headmins will probably follow the popular opinion if this gets to the headmin review stage because of what happened in the Dreary decision. So despite all of this, toemas will probably still be unbanned and the note removed. Aaand to ...

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2 people metacomming is definitely not on the level of doing an exploit that has caused people to lag multiple times and blowing up toxins afterwards. Both are against the rules under regular circumstances. I would argue that it is definitely on the same level. I think there's enough extenuating ab...

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if someone had come to lynch the engineer setting up this monstrosity (instead of what actually happened, which was everyone admiring it) I genuinely wouldn't have considered it a rule break. If they had thrown them into the supermatter crystal, or effectively round removed them in some way (as in ...

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he WAS breaking the rules. scriptis may have, for whatever reason, gave him permission to do so, but he was actively going around using a lag machine to grief people; as evidenced by the logs If an admin gave him permission to build a lag machine then no, he was not breaking the rules, at least, no...

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It's pretty clear Toemas would have known... if he had ahelped, which is what he should have done in this situation. This perspective is really bad because it assumes you’re not allowed to seek IC retribution without ahelping first. You should never be forced to ahelp if you have valid IC options o...

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And justifying the ban with "Well you should have known he got permission to make a fake lag machine from the admins so he could use it to test his not-allowed exploits for the seventh round running"? It's pretty clear Toemas would have known... if he had ahelped, which is what he should ...

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Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:13 pm Last term everyone I didn't care about I told to go to Fulp to get a vouch.

Biggest brain trolling

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On the surface this looks like a 1984 host gonna silence any detractors kinda deal, but then actually reading the appeal reveals the sheer humor in the ban. Gonna ask MSO how to solve world hunger next, and after he gives me a 2 sentence reply I'm gonna shut him off with "Not gonna read your DE...

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an important piece of information here is that the cook wasnt "tiding" he was setting up the SM [Highly likely that there was noone else around to set it up before the engi joined, because its bagil] the ban was deserved and in fact lenient Nowadays tiding has a different definition than ...

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The issue that I sometimes see (or that some moderators/admins may elect to interpret) is that people use their one free "HEY YOU CAN REQUEST HEADMIN APPEAL ON THIS BAN" as a way of slyly working in a peanut post in FNR I don't even see an issue here. Lets just assume the worst. You have ...

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I agree with Timberpoes's take on it posted in another thread, that I'll repost here. My own experience is that: Unless a player requests headmin review, they will not get a headmin review. Unfortunately a lot of players have no idea they can request a headmin review, and that's normal. On other ser...

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Shit why doesn't tearling remind the poster about the christmas avatar while he's at it, why doesn't he remind the poster that they have a quick post feature at the bottom of the webpage when looking at the website?????? Do you want me to actually answer this question, or is it rhetorical? Personal...

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Are you unable to comprehend the precedent it would set if we just allowed people to valid Borg not behaving Asimov? Are you unable to understand that the cyborg was asimov? It's fine to argue that he shouldn't have been killed the borg, and that he should have instead ahelped, but you should also ...

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technokek wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:02 pm Okay but how does this make the Borg Valid? Not being Asimov doesn't make you valid.....

Techno, we went over this earlier, but he was asimov.

Tearling

You should post these on the thread. Also did your post mentioning they could request headmin review get deleted or something? I have found out that policy is that headmins are supposed to review every bean appeal thread, so informing them to request a headmin review is against peanut policy. Cough...

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Main issue for me is the borg being round-removed based on them not living up to an impossible standard (immediately knowing when the harm becomes non-voluntary) IMPOSSIBLE standard. I would personally presume it's when someone screams out that they need help and calling it harm, that it's probably...

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Shellton(Mario) wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:58 pm Good to know as a silicon player i can ignore all human harm as long as its happening on a table.

Not because it was on a table, because he was trespassing. If they are a criminal, it's fine. /s

Tearling

[2022-10-28 10:29:34.430] SAY: 10:29:34.430] SAY: Bieyes/(B.O.R.B.O) "YOU BROKE INTO ROBO" (Medbay Treatment Center (126,100,3)) [2022-10-28 10:29:38.155] SAY: 10:29:38.155] SAY: Bieyes/(B.O.R.B.O) "AND COMMITED A CRIME" (Medbay Treatment Center (126,100,3)) [2022-10-28 10:29:45...

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technokek wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:24 am 4. he slips and drops his gun.

technokek wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:48 pm I slipped him in response to the random arrest he was trying to do on me.

Why did you say "he slips" instead of "I slipped him, and he dropped his gun"?

Tearling

Hey Pulls, in case you aren't aware, you can request a headmin review in case you still believe Thunder's ruling is wrong.

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technokek wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:10 am You are clearly bending everything so it fits your narrative, you even change facts that you posted to something you made up if that rather fits your narrative.

But you did slip him, right?

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Nopony says plasmaflood to mean a local area, which should be obvious considering people say "plasma in X" vs. "PLASMAFLOOD/PLASMA IN DISTRO" I have seen people say "plasmaflood in kitchen" when they hallucinate plasma flooding in a single room. I just said it just the...

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Moving past that, did the headmins really just deny an appeal just cause they didn't like the look of the guy? Yes. They also decided to overrule the admin decision (Timber decided to accept the appeal), meaning that everyone involved is now unhappy, including the player, and the admin. I would be ...

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Generally I respect Timber but on this specific matter I think they're full of shit. Suffice to say there is no shortage of names out there on Manuel that have been active for similar lengths of time, or longer, and not had any action taken against them. This is just fucking with Dreary for reasons...

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