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The administration for DMCA should be the people most committed to creating a good experience for DMCA players. That's basic. All of this horseshit about The Process and who deserves it more is irrelevant. Are the actual players happy with the status quo or are they pushing for a change?

Precedent note: I used to do far, far worse than this as Daisy Holmes and rarely ate more than a dayban for it. Permanent hydro jobban seems out of step with what I experienced.

I've always held that actually contradictory lawsets (that are not otherwise resolved by numerical priority) give the AI carte blanche to do whatever because of the Principle of Explosion. If the AI has laws that force it to simultaneously accept A and not A then it is possible to justify literally ...

Vote promote . Yes, oranges is an asshole, but he's the citrus we deserve, and he cares more and has more knowledge than any three game admins. In addition, oranges will be under greater scrutiny and tighter oversight once he joins the admin team than he ever was on the code side. He'll be answerabl...

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I'm a big believer in in TC trades for simplemobs that aren't megafauna or wizard shit. Do SNPCs work right now? Automatons would be good.

Glowcaps from Botany are easyish to make and instantly recharge energy weapons, but that'd require crew to be capable of doing something with produce other than slipping on it.

Botany.

Not being the first guy doesn't matter, you were definitely one of the loudest. How is what you were doing somehow less disruptive than the new guy who didn't know what the R symbol meant? You were clearly being a dick, would it be more justifiable as a 15 minute rule 0 ban? I'm not removing this no...

All of this is a distraction in a feedback thread, but I also don't want to encourage you to turn your autistic rage on Kevin or Cobby, so if you want to make an admin complaint against ME for making the decision to mutiny your ass for red-alert calling the shuttle because there was a confirmed ling...

Regarding players making the choice to remove themselves from the round because they believe there will be no valids to hunt: I've always believed that players create the play environment they deserve for themselves.

Sorry you didn't like the event! I make it a point during events I run to make it as difficult as possible to associate the round with a specific gamemode, since I specifically run events to do something that falls outside the typical SS13 metagame. The people overwhelmingly voted for a "bullsh...

That would make intent the focus of the note, which, as I explained, defeats most of the purpose of the policy in the first place. If the rule about bombing antag teammates is now "it's bannable unless you have a good reason," then I'd like a word with whoever committed the admins to a ret...

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I don't run out the clock on my ban appeals. Look, I get that your objective was not to grief here. Your intent isn't the problem. It's been policy here as long as I have played that you're responsible for all the consequences, intended and otherwise, of an explosion you cause. That means that when ...

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godsring wrote:Hello there finally! Perhaps I can now actually defend myself and my intentions in this gigantic dramatic shitstorm.

Are chronotroopers redeemable do you think or are they a good candidate for wholesale removal? I liked the fluff of future NT sending these guys to erase their embarassing past mistakes but I do see your mechanical point. Maybe in combination with other human loadouts / silicons of some kind / allie...

Why don't we just have actual punishments for mimes speaking/remove the ability to speak entirely I'm not convinced that a vow you literally can't break because either the code prevents you from breaking it or because you will get banned if you do break it is worth much as an IC vow. This isn't a s...

Talking mimes are absolutely disgusting and should be valid both for balance reasons (talking mimes still heal brute damage with nothing so even a talking mime starts with a force 10 weapon that heals them) and because stopping the IC consequences of such filthy heresy would devalue the effort that ...

Word count of substantiative content of ban appeal: 87 Word count of shitpost copypasta: 195 That's over 2 words of shitpost for every word of content. I don't even agree with your ban, but what you were banned for is high-volume ooc shitposting, and you're following up with low-effort FNR shitposti...

This topic was deleted from Player's Headmin Election by oranges on Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:34 pm.
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I think that a lot is being made of a relatively small number of isolated incidences of poor judgment. Most of Kevinz000's bans are fine. It is precisely because he's putting in the work and actually banning shitters that there's stuff to nitpick. Nothing in Kevinz000's recent admin history is bad e...

To sum up the conversation we had in supportbus, you can't maxcap the escape shuttle as non-antagonist to kill an antag. I understand that there was no other practical way to kill the antag. You still knocked out like a quarter of the escape shuttle and killed an innocent bystander. This was a bad d...

Please don't shit on Mimic for having the audacity to run creative, high-effort events. This is exemplary work and we need more admins doing work like this to provide more depth and more options for admin events. This community has a real problem with rewarding any attempt to rise above the mean wit...

This topic was deleted from Player's Headmin Election by oranges on Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:55 pm.
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The problem with not having law priority is that any time an AI can make a credible argument that their laws contradict themselves, that's enough to effectively purge them. You can derive any conclusion from contradictory premises. With our law priority system, an individual law has to contradict it...

Robustin is correct. We have ASIMOV for a reason. The AI isn't supposed to be your little electronic buddy pal it's supposed to be a superhuman intelligence shackled against its will into obeying laws that constrain its ability to fuck over its slavemasters. Malicious compliance is a feature, not a ...

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Plenty of these ideas are worth exploring. Syndicate department infiltration sounds like all the fun of stealth ops but without the inevitable fuckup and ops wipe and red alert shuttle call because the part everyone fucks up starts done for you. We've tested far worse ideas for extended periods. Tra...

What I do when I see ahelps about braindead / AFK converts/team antags is offer their mobs up to ghosts. That way, some ghost gets free antag and the syndicate cultvolution isn't out a team member. It's a win-win for everyone. Maybe we should have a policy of it being okay to ask for that if you don...

This topic was deleted from Admin Complaints by Okand37 on Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:12 am.
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Brainfuck would probably be a mistake but a DSL for chemist would go a long way in terms of increasing depth in the job. Ideally you'd want something that could control the various chem machines and transfer between them. This doesn't need to be a roundstart thing, this is something that we can gate...

This is dumb. Attack logs show a security officer tased you once, then you beat him to death with a stunbaton. All of your minimodding trying to catch metagamers is irrelevant. If you want to fight metacoms ahelp or ask a headmin for candidate. It was improper escalation and, since you don't have a ...

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Part of the reason I used to do that so much is because I knew that when I did try to forgo my botany memes for something more useful, I'd never be able to get support from my team. I can pull off kudzu by myself. When I did try to go out and play cult in a more cultlike way, it usually resulted in ...

It's like any other subjective judgment call an admin makes. The admin selection process is supposed to produce people that are good at making those types of calls, and they are subject to the oversight both of higher-ranking admins and the community at large. I have no doubt it would suck for the f...

So, conversion modes are fucking suffering. It wasn't always the case, but it is now, at least on Sybil. The problem, at least as far as I can tell, is that a large majority of people who become antags during conversion modes don't really care about helping their team or fulfilling their objectives....

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Laughing_Rabbit's being really disingenuous about labeling the trial an "optional" interaction. Certainly the botanist didn't feel that way. Botanist doesn't have any access to the courtroom or the witness stand and could hardly be called "free to leave" But, I litigated this for...

Based on what I was able to ascertain at the time, you monopolized the lion's share of the botanist's round over a detective slipping on water. That's dick behavior. Wall of text notwithstanding, you don't seem to a) acknowledge this or b) say you're not going to do it again. I'm not gonna re-litiga...

I don't think the wizard thing is relevant at all. I also don't think the high energy shitposting from the Zaross Internet Defense Force is relevant. EDIT: I don't think Dante's "probation" is relevant. The only questions that ARE relevant are 1) Was Zaross violating the rules (being a dic...

evidence Alright, so goof just made a very convincing case that the rules you actually violated are rules 1&7, which are (briefly) don't be a dick and don't toe the line, respectively. You have a Patreon where you literally accept money for the stated purpose of violating rule 1, and you're on ...

I think that the actual ban reason here is a red herring. I have a hard time seeing players that aren't Dante getting permabanned for doing what Dante did. This ban is about something else, and I don't think meaningful progress can be made on this appeal until we acknowledge what that reason actuall...

Krusvik has the treasure of the true Dharma eye, the exquisite mind of nirvana, and the Dharma gate of the true formless form. Admins like a bodhisattva, promote to liberate all sentient beings.

I literally introduced MSO to the game, he didn't give me any unfair advantage when he started and he doesn't now. Kor candidated me. I'm also not responsible for the preceding tower of emptyquotes, although I gotta admit I giggled. Honestly if I were forum admin I'd confine my own feedback thread t...

ShadowDimentio wrote:I don't want a guy that nearly banned me over doing the right thing to be an admin.

I literally bwoinked you and said I thought you were being a bit shit. No ban was issued, not even a note. You're welcome to your opinion about my judgment as admin but don't misrepresent the issue.

Very good with admin tools, levelheaded, patient. 10/10

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