/tg/Station 13

Figured I would ask this since it seems like admins have a lot of conflict answers. Ghost possession results from wizards using the summon events spell. Ghosts can possess any simple mob and don't get any flavortext when they become it as far as I am aware. I have seen it been used to kill people be...

cacogen wrote:Summon Guns is just an excuse for the crew to shoot each other with OP weapons though.

And Summon Magic isnt the same?

My problem with it is when there is barely any evidence and people immediately seek the nuclear option. I had one round where I was killed and my ID was taken. The guy who killed me used the ID and went around killing, but got caught eventually I believe. I am eventually saved and walking around whe...

the problem with botany isnt that they have to beg chemistry for mutagen, its that 90% of the time botany provides nothing of value to the station and chemistry doesn't benefit from tossing them mutagen when they ask for it.

In my current WIP chem changes, Category 2's will be typed as such which will consequently flag on the borg hypo that it will cause side effects. In a perfect world borgs should just be doing the med-less healing until their laws coincide with using side-effect inducing chems, but I also think ther...

I feel like your end-game for medical is just very very different from the style of play a multitude of players actually want to see. I think that is at least partially true, right now. Most players only want to heal as fast as possible(this type of player loves styptic and brute packs) or as easil...

I don’t get why we don’t just keep trek chems in medborgs and medibots and plants.

You can use law 2 to give orders that conflict with lower laws, but you cant order them to a law that involves higher priority laws. So you cant law 2 it to ignore a "x isnt human" law or "x causes human harm" law

Alternatively, blessed die of fate.

Mushroom people. A special race that is like a golem except it looks like that dark souls enemy and has wind up attacks that do more damage and fling enemies away

Shadowflame909 wrote:Jet-Pod.

I don't know what its called but its this space-motorcycle type of thing with infinite jetpack fuel. Very fun to ride around in.

Also the Speedwagon.

The thing that looks like a star wars speeder?

Combat arm implant, probably called something else. An arm implant that gives you a hardlight energy blade, a stun arm (Emagged engiborg module), a medibeam gun, and I think a flash?

Cobby wrote:Then don't do fusion if you can't take on the risks.

Those numbers are absurd.

The problem is usually the guy doing it is fine with the risks, but the rest of the station doesn't really have a choice if the station suddenly becomes hotter than a star and everyone dies instantly.

What does the flavortext say? Whatever you WANT the posibrain to do doesn't matter if it isn't aligned with their flavortext. It pretty much says dont harm people and serve the crew but I never see it enforced by anyone. It says your highest priority is to do no harm yet I see posibrain mechs killi...

In the past admins have told me you don't have to snitch on your AI if they are rogue/malf and you were made back into an MMI. Still it feels kinda iffy to allow yourself to be slaved to them again even with knowledge of them being rogue/malf

Imagine seeing players leave the station for the gateway because its more fun and thinking the solution is to just remove the fun content

While I haven’t experienced it, I feel wizard would ruin this mode considering it’s ability to just end a round with pure chaos. Wizard exists to just kill everything and I don’t think they fit well in this

Getting an admin to kill them is their goal. Its a stupid copypasta said only to get a reaction. An admin killing or gibbing or brain damaging them or whatever is exactly what they want

You literally can get your stuff back by yourself though. The only interaction security should have with gulag exiters is taking the ID and supplies so the gulag can actually be used again (and not escaped immediately by just leaving the ID in the shuttle crate) I reserve gulag for shitters and gre...

cult revs hivemind brainwashed people hypno'd people wiz skeleperson wiz construct survivalist/traitor/ling/solo antag This but put hivemind at the bottom Oh, my bad, meant to put it down with traitors. Overall if you aren't obligated to attempt to greentext then you dont have to worry about your o...

IMO greentexts that end the round / are a team effort should be highest priority, followed by brainwashed objectives, and then normal antags

cult
revs
hivemind
brainwashed people
hypno'd people
wiz skeleperson
wiz construct
survivalist/traitor/ling/solo antag

The part I hate about the gulag is that you never ever get your belongings back since it lacks a personal belongings locker like regular cells The problem is no one in security fucking knows how the gulag works and they just ignore you if you try to explain it to them. The machine takes your stuff ...

Gigapuddi420 wrote:I'm fine with 100 points = 1 minute rate.

The limit for gulag sentences is 1000 points. Because you cant ahelp for anything thats 10 minutes or lower you are unable to ever ahelp a gulag sentence.

Gonna put my fun police hat on here for a second, maybe the problem isn't with comms agents, maybe the problem is with having a rule 8 exception whose sole purpose is to give the random assistant of the day the attention they so much crave thanks to a meme being overdone and run into the ground for...

One problem with them is it feels like instead of skill or supplies all they take is meta knowledge. There’s this one gateway map that I was fucking around with on lowpop Sybil and it turns out there is a room hidden away in the corner of the map with magic stuff inside. There is no way to find this...

Imagine being so smooth brained you have to have a policy made to enforce your poorly made laws.

But in all seriousness this is stupid and there’s no reason for it to be done. Law order matters. Silicons following law order isn’t some huge policy issue.

knacker48 wrote:
NoxVS wrote: I was a chaplain

NoxVS wrote: After I help cremate the chaplain
This is probably just a spelling error but I'll ask anyways. Did you mean to say 'after i help cremate the changeling'?

Thanks for pointing it out, fixed.

Byond account and character name: NoxVS / James Knox Banning admin: NecromancerAnne Ban type (What are you banned from?): Note Appeal Ban reason and length: Note Appeal Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2019-07-05 05:36:08, Round 112383 Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): ...

One problem I can see with this is the point of multi use tools is to reduce clutter and make it easier to switch between tools. Giving engineering cyborgs more tools would just further expand their massive inventory of items

oranges wrote:Seems like Plasmaman forgot to enable their internals

While the icon incorrectly shows that internals are turned off, a plasmaman's internals are always on when arriving. It would have to be manually turned off

Zombies are fine mechanically. We just need to make it so you actually have to act like a zombie though. I often see zombies being friendly which completely ruins the whole point of zombie infestations.

It should also be noted stun duration is much lower for zombies. A stun can only stop them long enough to get away, you are unable to kill them in the stun duration. I’m pretty sure by the time you even switch hands they are about to get back up

Sounds like u should make a GitHub issue cause that don't sound rite Its not really a bug in the game and more bad design. If you grab someone by their neck it is difficult to resist out of and doesn't require you to have an open hand once you successfully do it, meaning you can have a fire axe in ...

While everyone has a counter to it at round start not everyone magically knows what they were just injected with. It’s impossible to tell toxic damage from oxy loss without an analyzer

Hey, better idea, remove hygiene. We voted on it. No one likes it. Remove it already.

Each armory starts with rwalls, motion-sensitive cameras inside and outside, as well as Armsky on most maps. Then you have a dedicated job for protecting it that starts with a compact shotgun, krav maga gloves, as well as the whole armory itself. Honestly if more wardens stayed inside and protected...

I don’t get why wardens can’t just wait for the entire armory to be stolen before they reinforce it

Alternatively it feels like the brig is intentionally poorly defended just to give carebear - I mean traitors an easy chance to raid it. The armory is so unsecure and one guy can easily just steal it all. It’s not that sec doesn’t want conflict, it’s that the enemy already has enough firepower to du...

I can’t really think of a better system than what we have here. While there are some moments that I think democracy would be better, there are also moments where something is changed for the better despite all people wanting otherwise separated chemicals

While I didn’t ahelp it at the time because there wasn’t a whole lot of proof and it seemed inconsequential at the time, I was playing in this round and believe this whole conflict was metagrudging. While he never acted on it towards me, Ars was immediately hostile to both me and Jameson as soon as ...

How the fuck did you find this the last post was 4 years ago

So overall it seems like the problem isn't low pop murderboning but delaying the round by spam recalling and ensuring the shuttle isn't called, a completely different issue.

Cap damage that can be healed by basic chemicals, remove cloning, make the resurrection surgery standard. Boom, relevant medical. That or add trauma based damage, that require being fixed by surgery. Have Rezadone be able to heal physical traumas as it is capped behind botany or emags. Pretty much ...

But a neutered medbay cannot handle Nukies, Wizhole, and traitorlings on highpop. Good. Medbay never should have been able to handle multiple high threat antagonists at once. Medbay (without sleepers) can easily handle each of those individually, and it's not like those would ever all spawn at once...

Define lowpop and define murderboning for me before we go any further. Precise definitions with exact numbers and a clear line drawn where it shifts to and from lowpop and to and from murderboning. If you can't do this then how can you expect players to? This is stupid and should be upheld with code...

Chaplains don't have access to the doors above the mass driver despite having access to the maintenance on both sides of them.

Also at EVA, the door into maint uses lowercase letters (e.v.a. maintenance)

That's what people mean by burnout though. If you're not enjoying chemistry for making interesting chems or janitor for pointing at signs as people slip or whatever you would do in other jobs and can only feel the rush if you are: a) Getting phat lavaland loot b) Getting magical slime loot c) Fight...

However the problem is the lack of things for the people who aren’t “mafia”. Jobs are tedious and unrewarding. There’s only so many times you can just do your job. Mining and xenobio don’t really have this problem because the job is rewarding and gives you cool toys to have fun with. This isn’t real...

The AI recognizes that borging is not itself a harmful process because that's how borgs are made. The rules literally fucking say "Involuntary debraining and/or cyborgization is a fatally harmful act that Asimov silicons must attempt to stop at any point they're aware of it happening to a huma...

I have been told in the past that surgery without a harmful end goal isn’t harmful. Even if the surgery is not being consented to. So if someone is having an implant removed or being pacified against their will the surgery does not need to be stopped. But if they are being borged or having their hea...

Hey hey hey this is still fucking stupid 5 years later and is still happening. Yeah, its more of a problem that the chaplain on at least one map starts with his own shard. Chaplain isn’t needed to do this. Non cult can’t shard people but they should be able to take an already sharded person and put...

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