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CMDR_Gungnir

its a game dude It sure is! Which means that a 2 week inability to play something they clearly show they won't use properly anyway and would probably only result in ONE missed opportunity at the most isn't really a big deal to their life, huh? If you join a game with RP...you're expected to RP...Sh...

CMDR_Gungnir

Seems a tad metagame and powergame to me to pre emptively destroy something that is the one of the interesting draws to robotics and takes a long time to create on the off chance that they MIGHT kill you This could apply to chemistry producing bombs and sec getting involved too though. A lot of thi...

CMDR_Gungnir

[Snip] Heretics are also arcane magic wielders with a plethora of lethal spells. You literally start off with the Funny Hand which with the rest of the equipment they probably have, is going to be a guaranteed kill if you aren't prepared for them. Yet, I distinctly remember you making a policy thre...

CMDR_Gungnir

Seems a tad metagame and powergame to me to pre emptively destroy something that is the one of the interesting draws to robotics and takes a long time to create on the off chance that they MIGHT kill you This could apply to chemistry producing bombs and sec getting involved too though. A lot of thi...

CMDR_Gungnir

Banning this T.I. monk character for shoving him onto a table and then repeatedly tabling him was baby-tier. I understand gibbing him, but let it end there. Also, I deeply understand the impulse to attack one's betters. I tabled him once did he once say "stop" I mean, from a purely RP per...

CMDR_Gungnir

Chaplain/Sec gunning down wiz on sight is against MRP rules. No offense but if this is really the MRP rules than that is the problem, not wizard. Some threats have to be shoot on sight even in an MRP setting, unless the wizard is trying something special. How is crew supposed to know the wizard is ...

CMDR_Gungnir

He's not that much of a bad actor in my humble shitty opinion. He's a brainlet, but he's also a damn good beta tester. He's the very definition of a bad actor. He codedives, tests things on a private to find exploits, uses them himself for his own entertainment, and THEN reports or fixes them. How ...

CMDR_Gungnir

it's a bad exploit because someone being invincible removes everyone else's god given right to erase their existence, also you have to look at it in totality its not just a one off how many times can one man need to be told to stop no janitor wants to dedicate all their time asking athath to stop f...

CMDR_Gungnir

I think Wizard's fine, personally. While it clashes somewhat with the rules, I think the solution there is to clarify things about where Wizard falls into them, rather than to remove it. While yes, it may be antithetical to the style of Manuel, so are Nukies, but if you tried to remove Nukies, you'...

CMDR_Gungnir

I think Wizard's fine, personally. While it clashes somewhat with the rules, I think the solution there is to clarify things about where Wizard falls into them, rather than to remove it. While yes, it may be antithetical to the style of Manuel, so are Nukies, but if you tried to remove Nukies, you'd...

CMDR_Gungnir

Timonk played a stupid game and won a stupid prize by getting gibbed. The only difference here is that if someone fucked up my event , I know that I'd be annoyed. And I'd feel obligated as a jannie to have someone else deal with it because of that. I know that I couldn't be impartial, but that wasn...

CMDR_Gungnir

If you press a Ghost Fun RP button (like ERT) to get people who will be ERTs and someone proceeds to take it and shit up the ERTing for everyone else by being NRP obnoxious so that you can't even give the ERT their assignment you're well within your goodmin rights to send that player off until/unle...

CMDR_Gungnir

Hopefully not a peanut;

Under the Escalation section of the rules, it says 'You can't kill or maim security for trying to arrest you for legitimate reasons.'

"The Warden gave you something and I, an Officer, don't like that" is not legitimate reasons.

CMDR_Gungnir

Don't suicide because you don't like the game mode. Especially if you're a critical role. Asking Socratically, do you believe this way about war ops? If so, what makes families different? Yep, the act of randomly committing suicide IC in a roleplay environment because you don't enjoy the OOC roundt...

CMDR_Gungnir

I support blocking it because it's uncreative and boring, and just reeks of Ock Ick to me.

CMDR_Gungnir

To be entirely fair "This just isn't working, nuke it from orbit" is feedback that can be acted on; But I'd say just hardlining policy that whatever you're doing for your Family isn't something that should severely impact the round for non-affiliated players. Alternatively, lean into it bu...

CMDR_Gungnir

Because we've already done that, and it hasn't worked. We've TRIED. Families was merged September 27th. Since then, the only policy discussion thread seems to be yours, about not allowing people to force people into gangs . Is there something I'm missing? Policy discussion and refinement happens on...

CMDR_Gungnir

Edit: I would also like to note instead of listening to the MRP admin's perspective and grievances the maintainers are just saying "ahelp it". Thanks very cool. The policy isnt even clear if they have antag protections or not. Clearly we need the headmins to decide some things. First off,...

CMDR_Gungnir

I'd also like to add the last time I was in a Families round, I saw Sec only had one other player in it and joined, not noticing the name changes (because I'd already made up my mind at that point). It was without a doubt the most unbearably miserable round I've ever experienced in my life. We had t...

CMDR_Gungnir

The game-mode still requires an inordinate amount of admin attention to ensure it goes smoothly. It can very easily degrade without a pretty firm guiding hand - which basically turns it from an antag ruleset to an admin event . As it requires so much admin attention, it's only fair that the admin t...

CMDR_Gungnir

I would like to add further evidence from Rune_Quester's linking of the video. Not only did Anton immediately try to get Vex while they were standing there without the Syringe Gun drawn, but even when it was drawn, there was never a single syringe fired. The only time the syringe was fired, was afte...

CMDR_Gungnir

"They didn't do anything wrong, they were just trying to disarm you of your baton and disabler!" Incredible. Tell me you don't actually play the game without telling me you don't play the game. Yeah, wasn't there a ruling a while ago that taking sec equipment, particularly (and specifical...

CMDR_Gungnir

oh sure they're nice and accepting until you get into a minor IC escalation with one of the server's popular statics and then you're going to be run out of the server by constant and repeated metagrudging by around 30% of the population. so true bestie also it's like they haven't had a run-in with ...

CMDR_Gungnir

"They didn't do anything wrong, they were just trying to disarm you of your baton and disabler!"

Incredible. Tell me you don't actually play the game without telling me you don't play the game.

CMDR_Gungnir

I've got like, over 1200 hours between /tg/ and my old server on the same codebase, and I've never known that the actual Self Destruct is mostly just a prop because the entire base will just detonate itself at the slightest hint of a kaboom. This feels like the man got permabanned from the entire Me...

CMDR_Gungnir

What teeth pills are worth removing someones head over? This particular person is someone who once filled his teethpills with explosives and killed half of the Security Team in one go with them. taking off someone's head because they've done something in a previous round when you would normally not...

CMDR_Gungnir

The issue here is that upon borging, your "job" is not Security Officer - your "job" is Cyborg of whichever model you choose. You may have been a Security Officer before, but you no longer have access to the tools or (usually) the lawset that enables that job, so suck it up and ...

CMDR_Gungnir

What teeth pills are worth removing someones head over? This particular person is someone who once filled his teethpills with explosives and killed half of the Security Team in one go with them. taking off someone's head because they've done something in a previous round when you would normally not...

CMDR_Gungnir

I got banned from fulp 1 day before even joining yog played goon before that its not like i didnt play other servers before that and i didnt mulikey on them soo and btw why are you standing for fulp I hope this isn't considered peanutting, but it's worth noting that all of the servers generally hav...

CMDR_Gungnir

What teeth pills are worth removing someones head over? This particular person is someone who once filled his teethpills with explosives and killed half of the Security Team in one go with them. We knew he had some (we'd checked), so went with going for a brain transplant to deal with rather than l...

CMDR_Gungnir

I don't make the distinction of "grief shuttle". If you die on the shuttle, it's not really a big deal. You'll be back in the game within a few short minutes. If you're afraid of losing your greentext, just board a pod. Of course, captain lynchings can be really entertaining, so now I'm c...

CMDR_Gungnir

So far as I am aware, it has been consistently ruled in the past that intentionally making use of any method to test for changeling status that is not dependant on a changeling having used their abilities is exploiting unintended behaviour. You can make use of tells that arise as a result of the us...

CMDR_Gungnir

Is it also considered an exploit to notice that the MedHUD says the headless corpse can be revived?

CMDR_Gungnir

There're much easier ways to figure it out that you've probably got access to, so I don't see the issue myself. If you decap (or debrain) and the body says reviveable instead of having the skull, it's a 'Ling.

CMDR_Gungnir

Wholeheartedly agree with this. The idea of rolling the exact same lawset as usual for 'experimental' is insane, and should just be removed from that particular event. Also agree with basically removing Mother Drone from the possibility on that front. Sure, it's definitely The Most Experimental you ...

CMDR_Gungnir

Luxury Shuttle imo

CMDR_Gungnir

Handles all ahelps with professionalism, even when it's salty ided. Does fun events, and will even give ghosts something to do. Spawned me and another ghost in as interns, gave us some very basic equipment, and droppodded us into a gateway map to play around in. Was pretty fun. Never had a bad exper...

CMDR_Gungnir

Rave said he'd forumban people for shitposting in that thread yet the OP continues to post unbanned.

0/10 he's literally just gatekeeping us.

CMDR_Gungnir

The primary objective of heretic is to ascend, which is not possible without gibbing several people, considering how infrequent realities are (which had to be lowered a long time ago). What gimmicks you can do as heretic are paltry compared to what you can do with traitor, which is a lot easier to ...

CMDR_Gungnir

[ Trying to hold a player accountable for using an item that comes packaged with an immense amount of functionality that was potentially randomly distributed to them by a random number generator comes across to me as abusing your position of authority to punish someone for something the game gave a...

CMDR_Gungnir

After my situation, it's no secret that I am far from Hulk's biggest fan (I bring this up due to their claim about 'Hulk's brown nosers'), but uhh. What the fuck is this appeal? "2D spacemen who are probably ignoring the fact that they're on fire that is just a fire sprite on top of a sprite th...

CMDR_Gungnir

It might've been ban for a day because of your rather obvious metagrudge against Yulice, but that's just a theory.

CMDR_Gungnir

I noted this person because attacking someone multiple times with a welding tool over them clearing out dangerous simple mobs is shitty and not the kind of behavior we should be tolerating on any server. kindly stop projecting your personal grudges with other admins out of this, thanks Did the pers...

CMDR_Gungnir

I'm almost 100% convinced this note is just a "I don't like this particular player" case. incredibly poor taste claim admins as a whole avoid getting involved with situations where their own personal bias may influence things - people can be and have been deadminned for violating the prem...

CMDR_Gungnir

Drag wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:13 pm
Space law concepts: Written by an idiot with criminal justice experiance.
[Snipped for Brevity's sake]

I wholeheartedly support this approach tbh.

CMDR_Gungnir

I'm almost 100% convinced this note is just a "I don't like this particular player" case.

CMDR_Gungnir

Although I disagree with your point that it doesn't make sense from a roleplay perspective. Conflicts have collateral damage, and a revolution against an established power almost certainly ends with damaged infrastructure I thoroughly disagree, as the intention of the Revolution (you even get to re...

CMDR_Gungnir

>thing is broke >coders don't fix thing >player brings attention to and uses thing >player gets banned am i missing something here if you ever perceive a weakness in someone's home security system please take the liberty to break into their house and rob them at gun point to bring attention to thei...

CMDR_Gungnir

Can you imagine admitting doing practice tryouts for your bug abusing like it's a normal thing and after so many repeated offenses you're still only getting a 1 week ban and still trying to appeal it 2 weeks, 2 weeks is a while 2/3rd's of a month 2/36th of a year, and it's whateva people enjoy shit...

CMDR_Gungnir

I'll kinda laugh if it escalates to Headmins and the Headmins just go "yeah no we're tired of this song and dance, we're upping it to a perma".

It won't happen.

But it'd be hilarious.

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