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good way to make even less people play security It's hard to pick which one of the ideas proposed in the thread is the worst, there are so many options. My favorite is the idea that arresting someone who's not 'really' an antag lets them attack SEC. So either SEC tries to arrest someone who is an a...

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"Nonantags can do whatever they want to confirmed antags..." etc. This is an awful idea absent a concrete definition of what counts as a 'confirmed' antag. It's still a pretty bad even then. The ability to be killed without consequence as an antag is the necessary counterpart to the 'anta...

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I'm not sure if you're arguing against the edited note or the old, admittedly poor, note. If you haven't had the chance to view it it reads as follows As a security officer, attempted to detain a chemist using a contractor baton without talking to them, leading to the chemist believing they were be...

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*does something SEC can kick your ass for*
*gets ass kicked by SEC*
ahelp: help help evil shitsec murdered me, there I was minding my own business....

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As a security officer, attempted to detain a chemist using a contractor baton without talking to them, leading to the chemist believing they were being attacked by a contractor and defending themsleves, which then lead to the officer using lethal force to detain them. While it isn't against the rul...

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BYOND account: zybwivcz Character name: Marshall Leslie Ban type: Head of Security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer Ban length: 4320 minutes Ban reason: As a security officer, had gone after a geneticist who had been falsely claimed to be a ling and had contributed to their death. Also had anot...

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It seems we're just repeating our thoughts at this point and arguing for the sake of arguing. I agree that this incident was not grounds for a ban and have corrected that. However, given that your most recent note at the time of the incident was a ban for poor security behavior, and how your action...

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The issue being you approached and stunned with a contractor baton before saying anything, completely blindsiding the chemist and putting them on the defensive. 29:54.001] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(August Pratt) has stun attacked Redrover1760/(Watches-The-Moon) with the contractor baton (NEWHP: 93.4) (Chem...

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I'm not sure how you would respond to being wordlessly stunned by a contractor baton, but I firmly believe a player could easily come to the conclusion that they are being targeted by a contractor, and attempt to defend themselves as such. If a SEC officer stunned me with a contractor baton(and the...

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Coming back to this after getting some sleep, my reasoning was very unclear and the points given, as you say, do fall in line with more of an MRP mindset. I didn't clearly convey what I took issue with and was focusing more on the aftermath making this a bit of a mess. What made this an LRP ban in ...

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The reason I said your use of force was valid was because of how difficult it would have been to detain them given that they made to room into an ice rink with their grenades, not that they were acting like an antag. When wordlessly whacked by a contractor baton, the chemist resisted with non-letha...

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Telling the CMO the person you, a security officer, just killed was possibly the one behind bombing the station as well as stating they're bad (with no proof) is in my eyes a very clear indication that said person is an antagonist that should not receive treatment. When you kill someone that isn't ...

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BYOND account: zybwivcz Character name: August Pratt Ban type: Server Ban length: 1440 minutes Ban reason: As a security officer, attempted to detain a chemist with a contractor baton leading to a scuffle where the chemsit threw ice grenades to evade the officer. They then esscalated to lethals how...

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After being the sole initiator of the conflict with lethals you had no right to kill them when they attempted to defend themselves, sec or not. If they had pulled out a laser gun of their own and returned fire instead of using a stolen baton this reasoning would be the same. Which, of course, is no...

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Having a stun baton while the armory(and security) is open because of the blob is not acting like an antag. You can't stun a blob with a stun baton. When a wanted assistant pulls out a stun baton the reasonable inference to make is not "oh look, a helpful assistant is going to aid the station ...

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You showed zero interest in an arrest and had the intent to kill from the first shot with no prior escalation because they were wanted with no idea why. If I had wanted to just kill them I could have used the fully charged laser gun I was carrying to do so. Why would I just shoot twice while warnin...

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First off thank you for making time to write up this appeal. Now lets go over why you think you should be unbanned. It's well established the level of force SEC can use during red alerts and equivalent situations is higher than normal. There was, at that moment, a plasma flood in the halls, a blob ...

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Character name: Keaton Margaret Ban type: Server Ban length: 1 day Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil Round ID in which ban was placed: 163764 Time ban was placed: 2021-06-08 BYOND account: Zybwivcz Ban Reason: As a security officer shot lasers at an assistant and killed them when they fo...

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You took a ghost role and used it for revenge. You did /nothing/ IC outside of that. I think that what you did is wrong and a break of metagame rules. Neither of us are going to convince the other, so - I have no interest in lifting this, headmins may overturn. If I had just wanted to kill the AI a...

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I understand exactly what you're saying, but you're wrong that this is acceptable. As the captain, you heard nothing IC. Even if I were to accept this, at no point during the shift did the captain say anything about a malf AI. It was not on their mind at all, probably because the only mention of it...

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Round number is incorrect, it's round #157140. The next interaction between you and that borg was around 00:53, after you'd taken over for the Captain, when you slapped it with a baton and it, again, mute toxined and injected you with Fl-acid. The RD was riding the borg in the teleporter room. The ...

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Actual round ID is 157140 - https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/157140 There was one report of a blue APC that was quickly found to be charging, not hacked. You seem to be thinking that there were multiple - there weren't. A report of a blue APC is a reasonable reason to check on the AI because a b...

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BYOND account: Zybwivcz Ban type: Server Ban length: 3 days Server: Sybil Server Round: #53363 Time ban was placed: 2021-02-26T01:24 Reason Given: Metagaming - as a scientist, died to a malf AI and took the body of the captain that was offered to ghosts. Used this position to demand law checks. Capt...

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Regardless of what the 'correct' interpretation of the relevant rules are, there should be a special case for slaved borgs that override(as long as the brain is still in the borg) antag status. Fairly certain the most common player belief on antags and borging is that it suspends antag status. Other...

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I've been informed by an admin that there's a policy that player controlled monkeys are always considered valid regardless of the circumstances. This is stupid. Since player controlled crewmembers aren't, and player controlled silicons aren't, and player controlled simplemobs aren't, and player cont...

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When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Basil, ~2:00 GMT Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Zybwivcz/(Kale Wallick) Admin: Analbifida ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: 145105 Detailed summary: Immediately after roundstart, I'm (as atmosian) in the small room to...

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the goal was to work on making the station have growing power needs throughout the round so engineering has to continually upgrade and maintain the engine, making power more than "it's on" or "it's off" Who gives a shit about the tesla or singulo as engines, keep them in solely ...

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Give some way for ghosts to register their interest in being spawned in as something and a mildly IC way for people on the station to tell, like a crystal ball in the chapel that glows with an intensity proportional to the number of non-AFK ghosts who have activated it. Or maybe something in science...

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Make the disabler research only/cargo purchase, make a dragnet variant the default SEC starter handgun, make it teleport to some preset beacon in SEC like the processing cell. Emagged ones can teleport randomly or to an enabled teleporter target or whatever. If you don't want it to be easier to leth...

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Replace all instances of "retard" with "github employee", problem solved.

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You disconnected before I could message you. Thus I was left with reports from multiple ghosts, a straight path from your spawn to the ruin, and a path from the ruin to the station. I was online through the end of the round, nobody messaged me. There were a couple people whining in deadchat but the...

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Metagaming also means using information you gained outside of game (Such as the Lavaland layout or who is antag and who isn't) in order to gain an advantage. Again, that's such a wildly over broad definition it would cover everyone every round. Using information from the wiki would be 'metagaming' ...

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Literally the textbook definition of metagaming. No that's something you got off Wikipedia. It's so wildly over broad it covers pretty much anything done by anybody who isn't playing their very first round. Here's the relevant section from the rules: I.e.. metagaming. This especially refers to comm...

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BYOND Account: Zybwivcz Character Name: Leila Sauter/a morph Ban Type: Server Ban Length: 7 days Ban Reason: Elected to scout out the location of the gluttony ruin prior to taking a mining ghost role, then made a beeline there directly from the ghost role spawner. Then immediately went to the statio...

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why not? Our various catgirl players will get the chance to show the whole station just how robust they can be. Catgirls wouldn't be automatically valid, so an assistant couldn't just toolbox a cat to death at roundstart(at least without a ban). Exempt big game-ending kill everybody stuff like Nar'...

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Give catgirl characters permadeath: If you spawn in a round as a cat and wind up dead at the end of the round the character gets automatically deleted and you have to reroll it as a non-cat. The problem will solve itself.

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event hall is actually the best Unironically this, bagil rounds tend to come down to the antags vs whatever small number of players actually respond while everyone else ignores them and the outcome is determined by which group is more robust. While on event hall you see even newbies trying to pitch...

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There were, AFAIK, no other heads in the shuttle when I launched. I don't remember seeing any in the cockpit. And like the chat logs show, I tried to announce but comms were down.

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Byond account and character name: Zybwivcz - Some random name I can't look up because the logs aren't working but I was HoS Banning admin: Bobbahbrown Ban type (What are you banned from?): Head roles, 1440 minutes Ban reason and length: The player emagged the emergency shuttle as the Head of Securit...

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If stuns and push are being rebalanced and generally nerfed, then it's probably a bad thing that it's still possible to permastun someone by pushing them onto glass tables. The damage is strong enough, the stun should be greatly reduced or removed.

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Unironically ban the embittered greyshitters and catgril metagangers and replace them with ssethtiders.

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All I want is for greytide mains who ahelp for basically anything SEC related to get hit with banbaiting. There are reasonable ones, but it still feels like most of the bwoinks I've gotten while playing SEC are when some habitual shitter ahelps after getting killed at the end of some rampage where t...

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The only place where I think this makes sense is for a Paranormal ERT to spawn or at least have a chance to spawn on cult rounds once the cult hits halo stage. Maybe make it an X% chance per minute after that point so it's not too predictable. Also maybe reduce or eliminate the spawn chance when the...

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alrighty, fetched the ahelp logs related to the ticket without looking all that, deeply seems like Names are Hard put work into investigating this issue and came to a verdict appropriately I can kind of see the point, if N.A.H. had accurate and truthful information. But despite claiming otherwise M...

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It was early in the round and I was spending points on other things and you asked for a portal gun. I can't think of a reason an atmos tech needs one except to fuck around and grief so I tell you to fuck off. You're also wearing the CE hardsuit and the AI had been complaining about someone RCDing t...

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Randomly generated likes and dislikes at round start for food and drinks and maybe other things like clothing types. Gives an incentive to not to grab a donut every time you start to get hungry. Gives chefs and bartenders a reason to actually make stuff for actual non-RP gameplay reasons. Should be ...

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Byond account and character name: Zybwivcz - Franklin Nash Admin: Names Are Hard Time and Server(Bagil or Sybil) incident occurred: Bagil 2019-01-19 07:54 ROUND ID HERE: 100486 https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/100486 Detailed summary: I was an atmos tech, AFAIK the only engineering dept. personnel...

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Traitors are meant to be undercover nanotransen operatives. Stealth makes sense conceptually. But they get played like ops with fewer TC that start on station. Solution: Completel retool the traitor uplink. Remove the super murderboney stuff(desword, carp) nerf most weapons, buff or rework the steal...

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logs here This seems pretty clear: [2018-12-24 22:45:05.823] GAME: 22:45:05.823] GAME: Analbifida/(Shade of Chip Marshall) became a free golem [2018-12-24 22:45:05.829] GAME: 22:45:05.829] GAME: *no key*/(Shade of Chip Marshall) *no key*/(Shade of Chip Marshall) is no longer owning mob Shade of Chi...

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Byond account and character name: Zybwivcz / Kyler Schofield Admin: Zoozele Time and Server(Bagil or Sybil) incident occurred: Bagil ROUND ID HERE: 99173 Detailed summary: I killed Shade of Chip Marshall after he wound up in a soul shard after suiciding via Russian revolver. I go AFK for a few minut...

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