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Okay I don't have any more questions yet, but I have decided to take a new approach. After the posting of this appeal behind the scenes the admin team has debated this topic for quite a few hours. It's quite literally a civil war for lack of a better term. On one side we have what I'm going to call ...

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Additionally I do have a question: What is the trigger for this tic? Is it hearing "Welcome to the station crew, enjoy your stay"? If so that confuses me, the reason why this came to my attention at all was because you took over another player as a split personality and the language you u...

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Additionally I do have a question: What is the trigger for this tic? Is it hearing "Welcome to the station crew, enjoy your stay"? If so that confuses me, the reason why this came to my attention at all was because you took over another player as a split personality and the language you us...

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Right, my assertion that notes arnt directly a punishment was indeed wrong and worded poorly. Notes are more of an indirect way to guide the decision making process of the admin team, which is why having a poor note history dosent bode well for a player. As for if the contents of the notes are harsh...

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I'm going to tackle this in serveral parts. The first most pressing point I have to make is notes are not, nor will ever be, directly a punishment. Notes are utalized for several things, mostly to give other admins a context on your game history while they are investigating you. However we also use ...

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I don't see the issue or really get why he was banned. No erotic stuff on the server, fine, he adhered to that rule and when he found someone maybe interested in something erotic, he asked if they wanted to do something off of the servers on discord. Literally what's the issue here? EdIt: This is, ...

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carshalash wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:37 am Heads of staff are those dudes that want to be acting captain antag.

Do you have anything meaningful to add to this conversation or?

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I'm playing seven games of 5D chess and half the admin team doesn't even know it You're INSANE you could have left out all the lowpop murderbone-8min-nuke-needless-killing stuff and just been like. HERE IS THE RULE DISALLOWING GHOSTROLE METAGRUDGING. HERE IS YOUR QUOTE SAYING YOU WOULD GHOSTROLE ME...

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I'm playing seven games of 5D chess and half the admin team doesn't even know it You're INSANE you could have left out all the lowpop murderbone-8min-nuke-needless-killing stuff and just been like. HERE IS THE RULE DISALLOWING GHOSTROLE METAGRUDGING. HERE IS YOUR QUOTE SAYING YOU WOULD GHOSTROLE ME...

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I'm playing seven games of 5D chess and half the admin team doesn't even know it

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Rule 4 has not and will never immediately invalidate all of the other rules TG has, this situation and this players history have led to a long line of events where their actions and refusal to change their behaviors have caught up to them. On top of that this player was an MRP player, which adds ano...

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you are desperately grasping at anything to ban a lone nukie for doing whatever he wants AND SUCCESSFULLY accomplishing his objectives RULE 4 MF https://puu.sh/J6zvY/4e2ceab1bd.png https://puu.sh/J6zvY/4e2ceab1bd.png https://puu.sh/J6zvY/4e2ceab1bd.png https://puu.sh/J6zvY/4e2ceab1bd.png Rule 12, r...

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The largest issue I had with this case was the metagruding, yes you can use an antagonist role to metagrudge but you cannot actively seek an antagonist roll out specifically to metagrudge. Lone op is an opt in role and while the selection of the op is random from the quotes: [2022-06-17 17:21:26.65...

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Generally, yes, however this is a special case for the reasons I lined out. If it was literally just "Lone op murderbones" it wouldn't of been a problem. People are narrowly evading rules while having colorful histories and admins should have leeway to permaban them for things that would ...

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The ban reason was not for this situation alone, it was simply the final straw in a long line of situations where there was additional bans, notes, poor conduct and the pure fact Timber had already warned them for their note accurals made me put my foot down. This makes perfect sense to me, if what...

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This situation as a whole is a large mixed bag for me. On one hand on paper, this situation sounds to me like massive over escalation, however, on another, the hos hands the psychologist a gun, and essentially without verbalizing it says "I'm not helping, deal with it." then leaves. There...

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Shadowflame909 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:03 pm
Drag wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:57 pm
When a headmin bwionks you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAJpADEKC5o
Maybe I should get bwoinked by a Headmins so I can groove

Now we're getting into the iceberg

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This situation as a whole is a large mixed bag for me. On one hand on paper, this situation sounds to me like massive over escalation, however, on another, the hos hands the psychologist a gun, and essentially without verbalizing it says "I'm not helping, deal with it." then leaves. There ...

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XII3912 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:38 am
Shadowflame909 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:08 am https://youtu.be/qrBB3_rFPjg

Spear of justice really fits. I guess just put it in clown horn font for bwoinks of justice.
that's when a trialmin bwionks you

When a headmin bwionks you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAJpADEKC5o

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THESE BITCHES GAY, GOOD FOR THEM!

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On a side note, I have personally recalled the shuttle as a thief even when the station was in tatters just to get more time to steal my objective. Is that like a big no-no that I managed to get away with? Side note to the side note. What if I am a traitor and I steal the comms board from secure st...

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This is the beauty of rule four, to kill your fellow traitor or to not kill your fellow traitor.

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There were 29 active players on the round in question. I suppose that just makes the mark of lowpop murderboning but it depends who you ask (I'd say <30). But as a nukie your end goal is to set off the nuke and gib everybody. Are nukies held to the same lowpop murderbone standards as traitors? Prob...

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Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:22 am >I am making Pieguy piegoodbye

I got 1984'd and had to change that bit Im so sad

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Every player, no matter what, has a fundamental right to the same fair process we offer to ensure complete quality control of our own admins and to ensure our players are given any justice they deserve. I mean, yeah, of course. I don't think this guy shouldn't get a fair appeal. I just don't think ...

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Also, this is the best version of Pursuit and I will fight anyone who tries to disagree:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uocHYbEbWSE

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Every player, no matter what, has a fundamental right to the same fair process we offer to ensure complete quality control of our own admins and to ensure our players are given any justice they deserve.

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I can safely say that the ban I placed was not because of the singular incident that occurred with the lone op low pop. Rather it was a collection of multiple factors. Most of which are only available behind the scene. Also what timber said but its me this time

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The headmins have been notified, they will get to this when they will it.

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BONERMASTER wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:46 pm
Drag wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:30 pm You get bwionked by x, what starts playing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcJmOs8DRQ

With objectionable regards
-BONERMASTER

When the testimony doesn't match the logs

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stewydeadmike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:45 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqMLukTUU3A

Man of culture

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Ban reason updated, It now reads: Banned from the server permanently - As a lone op on a low pop round set the nuke timer to eight minutes only after being prompted to do their objectives by another admin and then proceeded to slowly murderbone their way through the station after claiming their inte...

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While Im at it, I will be updating your ban reason. I will change the length of time to eight minutes. However I will be placing this quote, as I believe it is fitting for the ban reason. [2022-06-17 17:21:26.659] SAY: Pieguy223/(Jerry Notagan) (DEAD) "if I get lone op I'm not grabbing ...

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Denied. First of all, I asked you to return with a vouch, which you have failed to do. Which immediately invalidates this appeal in my eyes. However, I will go more in-depth as to why you were banned. I'm going to pull from your notes, which was the major factor for your ban. At 263 hours you were g...

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This can also be themes for individual admins, or a theme for the entire admin team

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You get bwionked by x, what starts playing?

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Right, this thread has sat a little while so I'm gonna go ahead and make two pitches for headmins to review. My pitches are as follows: 1. Allow admins to have the power under rule 0 to intervene when a head of staff shows a noticeable lack of game knowledge and encourage that player to use the rol...

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Right, this thread has sat a little while so I'm gonna go ahead and make two pitches for headmins to review. My pitches are as follows: 1. Allow admins to have the power under rule 0 to intervene when a head of staff shows a noticeable lack of game knowledge and encourage that player to use the role...

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Pure cope. People don't read that glowing ass flavor text and plenty just ignore it. People get vindictive and form vendettas and they come to kill you. Ritual murder should not give them this opportunity for free, and insulated it with a layer of safety. No people seem to read it just fine, this e...

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Add this to the sacrifice bringing the victim back in a few minutes to tell everyone, and you have extremely few ascensions. I'm like 90% sure you should be immediately ahelping anyone who tells you they were sacrificed? Can someone factcheck me here? Correct, anyone sacrificed on LRP and MRP does ...

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Oranges you cannot tell me you did not stop to think about how those kinds of comments would make someone uncomfortable. I'm all for the horny jokes but that even by my standards is too far

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....silicon should start with the mother drone lawset.

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Mining should have the least job content of all jobs so miners will actually just mine ores all round, they don't add to the round otherwise

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TG is an MRP codebase

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I have an additional food for thought question: MRPs roleplay rule three states: Chain of command and security are important. The head of your department is your boss and they can fire you; security officers can arrest you for stealing or breaking into places. Unless they're doing something unreason...

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I don't think players will give their respect and subordinate status to their heads as long as heads have the chance of being an antag I feel like this point is invalidated when you change out job roles in this sentence: "I can't trust the cmo/rd/cr/hop because they can roll antag" For: &...

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After both the policy bus and coderbus meetings the general consensus was TG was interested in going in a direction where heads were more meaningful/impactful to the round. I want to hear more thoughts on this, discuss. Some food for thought: Do we want administration to warn all heads of staff who ...

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As Chesh has stated above your appeal was denied. Of course you can request a headmin review but as it stands your appeal was denied.

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Chesh and I go way back to the before times dark medieval age arc, they're an amazing player and a joy to admin alongside and I will personally usurp the headmins if Chesh isn't promoted.

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While I am not the banning admin I believe it is important to note that I heavily aided them in their investigation, and am happy to give my own input, if requested.

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