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Oh no poor nox couldn't valid hunt the antagonist

The game is ruined

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Arianya wrote:maliciously exploiting a bug (which basically every means of getting to centcomm which isn't the escape shuttle/the ERT shuttle/admin invoked is)

How is exploration malicious?

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I mean you don't get banned from Centcomm glitches, admins just kick you out because they're supposed to. It's not like you're ruining the shift.

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Not an admin but you'll likely be asked if you've played on another server as a reference of reform.

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Oranges' opinion is based off of how smarmy he can look while spouting it leave him alone he doesn't really believe in anything he says.

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Hijack is hard, stealing the disk (usually) is hard. Stealing the crystal can be kind of unforgiving in actually surviving the chamber, the problem is the game doesn't give you the breadcrumbs to find the toolbox that exists purely for this objective unless you specifically notice the box happens to...

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Flashes are already one of the most rubbish stuns in the game.

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To be fair, if he did code he'd probably realise "heh you weren't aware this thing I suggested you interact with causes instant death because I didn't tell you beforehand so you lose (which means I win)" is a design trope used by neckbeards with power fantasies.

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I still haven't given up on old school masterwork df (right before the update that made trees multi tile structures) are there actually really good new features now?

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peoplearestrange wrote:Says the straight white guy.

This is like saying "you're not part of our weirdo club your opinion isn't important!" which immediately makes your opinion worthless to anyone that isn't already agreeing with you.

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It's really easy to fuck up this objective and most people get dusted the first time they attempt it. That's largely the point of it. That's kind of a stupid point to be honest - "you didn't know the instant death mechanic existed so instant death for you do not collect $100 you will not be re...

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Fuck you skoglol free Krokodil!

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I don't like this rule therefore it should be expanded so I can more effectively rules lawyer around it. ??? Admins ban because "oh I'm finding an excuse for why the rule doesn't apply in this instance and am digging up irrelevant precedent". It's the admins going around it and as a resul...

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Currently there are a number of bad bans on appeal for "um you didn't give this guy that just straight self antagged the 1% chance to come back into the round?? what's up with that??". Rule 4 should be expanded or at least have the wording updated to create clear policy that you aren't obl...

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There is some precedent to this situation, though it is muddied by the situation being different and Nervere going out of his way months later to overrule the headmin vote and delete the note without editing the appeal. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=20969&start=50 I sho...

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but you literally won't be antag for 5 minutes the same as if an admin took it away ??? You're not a deconverted team antag where you get to validhunt your old cult buddies, you're a guy who spent literally the entire round as a solo antag with the knowledge "I get my license to kill back in 5...

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You could probably ask to be rebanned at a later time once covid is over.

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oranges wrote:if you read the document, it isn't the meta.

Yeah I know, I'm replying to Anne.

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Nobody is going to temporarily stop playing antag for 5 minutes because of some stupid rp role dude

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To be honest, as someone who procrastinates on ban appeals and skirts on the positive side of peanut I could just use the current sec ban for cremation thread. Imo this is a terrible terrible ban but I can't post that because it would go under peanut (the officer responded with a sorta low effort ro...

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I don't think it's a good idea to make SM farming the meta choice - more something risky that isnt reaaaally worth doing but robust engies do anyway because it's metal as fuck and strikes terror into both AI and the other command staff eavesdropping on the engineering channel

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It is worth noting that this function has been removed from the game, although everyone is probably already aware.

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To be honest it would be kind of cool (actually really cool) if you could get like 1-2 per round if you really pushed the crystal to near delam point (like 10% integrity with the crystal generating some form of room damage - like the current anomalies that can destroy all your emitters if you're not...

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You'll probably want to cut anomalies out of the super matter then (>5k spews them out nonstop). I can make as many phazons as materials will allow through the engine if I care enough to at the moment (it is sort of suicidal to do this though).

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Oh it's nothing to with what he said, but how admins dogpiled to rewrite his comment for him. Also, considering I recall someone being deadminned for making a joke (in discord if I recall?) "I can just ban people for no reason and nobody would ever know", it could be argued hutposting can ...

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Seems receptive to criticism.

+1

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People whinge endlessly if you post on their feedback thread over an appeal. Very true and I've talked a few times on how toxic admin feedback actually is, not letting a lot of real feedback come through from previous history of instant defense force + reports Hell adding to this, Deebudya made a c...

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People whinge endlessly if you post on their feedback thread over an appeal.

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Why would you use lethal mode when disable acts faster?

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Traitor bombed his target which happened to kill bystanders.

This isn't "murderbone".

This also isn't fucking yogstation - you don't get punished because "oh honey you killed someone that wasn't on your list you're a bad widdle boi yousa in big doodoo dis time!"

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"Self antag" means "attacking/griefing someone for no reason unprovoked because you want combat".

Not "using excessive force on some guy being obnoxious just to annoy you"

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If you get drip fed objectives that you need to do to unlock items, does that mean you rework the tc limit Antags use? Like if I have to virus a computer eventually everyone is going to have some level of meta knowledge about it and so youd probably want to spend some tc to do that. But if you wante...

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possible confirmation bias, but I saw people get warned/beaned for it fairly often, mostly because it's hard to tell if it's intentional or not, and multiple delams over multiple rounds can be seen as repeated griefing instead of continued experimentation. The thing is it's incredibly easy to recov...

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Relaxe wrote:You can't even order the supermatter from cargo

Yeah you can lmao

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TheWiznard wrote:oh also no ones mentioned hitler or nazis yet in the thread so score oh shit

No no, the fact you used Nazi iconography for one of the categories was pointed out on like page 1 or something.

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"Heh I'll get rid of chocolate interaction to own the redditors xd" - Orange man 2019

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If psych gets pills should be renamed to psychiatrist as that's one of the main distinctions between psychologist and psychiatrist (that and the psychiatrist goes through medical school first and psychologist doesn't do it at all).

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To be fair, when temperature bugs out it sorta kills everyone (when not in a canister) which is different in scope to how when you exploit (not really a bug) how radiation works it's perfectly safe to anyone not in the engine - and lmao assistants automatically dying when they trespass is a feature.

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Bro he's getting rid of rad collectors because you can glitch the radiation contamination system to generate like 80MW with pure n2 not because it's "laggy".

...Relax dude :^)

Also wtf do you mean "buff rad collectors"? They work perfectly fine?

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I use the tablet all the time when I play CE - having the supermatter monitor running in your pocket instead of having to constantly trundle over to the console is honestly very helpful.

I'm not sure if any other jobs can actually get use out of it however.

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I would like to point out that with how the current engine works, it's practically impossible to "accidentally" cause a singularity.

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Cobby wrote:tbf admins in the past have said they will ban you for experimenting (and it blowing) when you can just set it up safely, dunno if this is still an issue though.

I mean currently you have to fuck up pretty badly for it to actually delaminate.

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The captain's room is "high security" in that humans can valid-hunt you for trespassing. Asimov laws don't recognise "access" or "high security" however (I've got a note for this as well). The only places you can reasonably deny access without any special scenarios are ...

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I suspect research points are being changed at some stage as Oranges isn't a fan of R&D as currently is.

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Cobby wrote:spamming matter bins into a rped and tossing it into the crystal room isn't exactly an engineering secret.

Nobody was implying that?

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Can I point out that in your first logdump there are clearly ERT members talking about how irradiated engineering is - why wouldn't you assume that they're already on the station?

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Also, someone brought up the old engines as an example of a positive rework. These people are wrong. These things weren't reworked. Those old engines still exist. This is a good example of adding onto an already good system, rather than gutting it and replacing it with what you thought was best. Ar...

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Singularity still had room to go and grow BSA'S can destroy singularities now Throwing the clown into the singularity can cause it to decrease 5 levels or increase 5 levels. I'm still waiting on my singulo tesla fusion where tesla orbs orbit the singulo. Husking peeps before they eat them, and crea...

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That's a stupid line of thought.

Singularity was replaced completely by super matter.

Singuloth is a little funny as a meme but other than that it sucks dick in every way compared to the SM.

Replacing dead end systems with no room to add depth with detailed systems is a good move.

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oranges wrote:never

I take back all positive things I have said.

Orange man bad orange man bad

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