/tg/Station 13

Right now Rule 5.2 reads as follows: Ghosting out, going AFK, suiciding, or logging off when converted to a team antagonist position can result in warnings from an admin; extending to bans for repeated behaviour from an individual. This also extends to when Command/Security mindshield implanting an individual to their side in said modes. At most within team antagonist, it is expected players to not maliciously harm their team's progress and assist if they are able to the best of their abilities.

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This map has been removed several times already and I think its due again for another removal. Birdshot is extremely unpopular amongst the playerbase and quite frankly, its not hard to see why. The map is a complete and utter mess of a layout, with departments slapped around, separated and mixed with random maints in between all of it. It generally only gets voted in as a prank by players who are done playing for the day and want to make other people suffer on the way out. I don't see any reason why we...

BYOND account: SabertoothG
Character name: Johnbo Charlie
Ban type: server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Suspected ban evasion.
Time ban was placed: 11:05:58
Server you were playing on when banned: Sibyl
Round ID in which ban was placed: 215223
Your side of the story: I tried to login, and I was banned!
Why you think you should be unbanned: I'm new to the game.
References of good conduct: tgstation is my first station i tried
Anything else we should know: I left the round when I was the chef...

Alright, so I feel like this is covered under rule 1, but I've been asked by a few people to post a policy discussion because they want it clarified by the headmins. Plus, I'd like a sign I can tap at when people fuck around.

I've noticed an issue a few times now with low pop servers forcing through restart votes for really lame reasons. Basil has had a few issues where the map vote will automatically roll Birdshot and players will vote for a new map, then force through a restart vote at the beginning of...

BYOND account: maskenary
Character name: Reider Meza
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason:
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Time ban was placed: 2023-05-15
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 205737
Your side of the story: I didn't roleplay.
Why you think you should be unbanned: It's been a few months, and I've realized how my disruptive my behavior was. I was playing how I was because I was burnt out on the game, so I only found antag and fighting fun. After...

BYOND account: lawlolawl
Character name:
Ban type: Server (all servers)
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason: As a non-antag killed an assistant with very poor reasoning . You were banned before for killing someone on poor reasoning , please be better informed when trying to pull the trigger.
Time ban was placed: 2023-09-24 12:46:15
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 215142, ban applied the following round 215145

Your side of the story:

I started off as an engi on...

BYOND account: ShadowedEnvy
Character name: Keira Easter
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Exploit abuse to get onto CentCom with the stated intent of griefing a group of russian players playing mafia ( They just started a mafia game Let's go break in ). Refused to give up the exploit when asked. Appeal on the forums when you're ready to explain how the exploit works.
Time ban was placed: 2023-09-23 20:31:00
Server you were playing on when banned: Campbell
Round ID in which ban was...

BYOND account: Bautista
Character name: Tyrone The III
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: likely ban evasion, joined the round as a new account indicate knowing how to play at a level above account age and tried to gib a co-worker whit a shuttle unsuccessfully, logged of 20 sec after being asked why. (i literally died from the shuttle)
Time ban was placed: 2023-09-23 19:48:04
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 215169
Your side of the story: So...

BYOND account: S5nt
Character name: Kazkov Korbov (?)
Ban type: server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (S5nt) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is: Played Russian Roulette with then-Headmin Timberpoes on the Forums as part of a ban appeal. Gave a smartass answer and simultaneously won and lost, reaping the fruits of said smartassery.
Time ban was placed: 2023-07-06 14:12:51
Server you were playing on when banned: forum...

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BYOND account: CrazyClown12
Character name: Malcolm Tucker (Probably)
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 1 year
Ban reason: Requested ban because they wanted to stop playing spessmen, lift at will.
Time ban was placed: 2022-10-31 00:14:08
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 193424
Your side of the story: I requested ban because I wanted to stop playing spessmen
Why you think you should be unbanned: My dad works at byond

BYOND account: sk1wass3r
Character name: Talon Mckendrick
Ban type: command, Captain, Head of Personnel, Chief Engineer, Quartermaster, Chief Medical Officer, Research Director, Head of Security
Ban length: 30240 minutes
Ban reason: First off, rude to other players. I understand if you make mistakes, but wasting other folks time in shift is lackluster. You can't just AFK then dissconnect on captain and also do 15 things, which was mostly putting on your clothes and asking for nuke codes. I expect...

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So in a recent round, a captain was asking for a null rod from the chaplain for (friendly) wizard killing, then stealing it from him when they refused. The discussion at the time was whether it was a dick move to steal the item.

This got me wondering, under which conditions could the captain or security commandeer a chaplain's null rod or bartender's shotgun if the chaplain/bartender has it without it being considered a dick move.

A clear example of it not being a dick move is captain/sec stealing the...

BYOND account: Legoscape
Character name: Jessica Sulivard
Ban type: Perma
Ban length: Perma
Ban reason: The monotony of having to reinstall Byond is too great.
Time ban was placed: Some time in the past
Server you were playing on when banned: The good server
Round ID in which ban was placed: Monotany
Your side of the story: I told a wizard to remove ; Kill, a Chief engineer who was destroying my work and purposely fucking with the engine I was working on. I was a borg at the time so this was not...

BYOND account: lokuthewise
Character name: Chang Mr. Chang Moert
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: (attached image)
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil

Why you think you should be unbanned: I am back! Without a vouch BUTTTT I have gotten about 20H on Yog without a note (I did get banned from silicon's but that was a admin error) refer to one of the images of the yog things, also played about 4 hours on bee. I played much more monke but you guys dont allow things from there....

BYOND account: Yobrocharlie
Character name: Random ashwalker
Ban type: Lavaland ghost roles
Ban length: 7 days
Ban reason: I would put this here but they haven't actually applied the punishment yet (During Round 215014, spawned as ashwalker after he was made aware than another admin had spawned a room of claymores in the lavaland ruin, defended by migos and other creatures. Within less than 1 minute, went near the ruin, then ran back to near where he spawned claiming that he heard something in the...

So for the longest time ive always thought that reviving a sentient animal, from mouse to space dragon, HAS to be friendly and follow the orders of the person who revived them, similar to xenobio sentience potion. however, after looking through code, rules, and headmin rulings, i cant find where thats actually stated.

Real quick way you can massively improve dynamic, headmins! Disable any antagonist that has progression mechanics from midrounds and latejoins. Dynamic rounds where all the latejoins and midrounds turn out to be progression antags end up being a wet fart. They work great when the round starts with them, let's see more of those static antagonists like lings, pirates, dragons, blobs, nukies, revs, wizards, and all the other things that are not impacted by when they join the round.

Super easy change....

Title. Nothing in the current list really covers them. We could probably lump them in with other ghost roles but if so we should make it clear that's the case.

I would say that, logically, they should be restricted to only attacking anyone who tries to interfere with their domain. Some random idiot in maint could be yelled at and threatened to leave, but they shouldn't be actively killing people unless they're either encroaching on the Rat's domain. If they're supposed to be king of maintenance, they...

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