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Grazyn

Borgs emagged by antags aren't antags themselves. It would be a huge policy mess if they were.

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Law 4 is mostly a crutch and mostly useless; a borg flooding plasma will draw suspicion, which can directly endanger the guy who emagged it - the AI will probably notice it's been emagged, get a human to lock it down/blow it, the MMI or a reassembled asimov borg will rat out the emagger, or someone...

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In the good old days we used to have a page showing K/D for the top 100 players, that's how RP old tgstation was. Low pop rounds were basically 30 ghosts observing the traitor/wizard spawnkill everyone with the same meta-gear round after round. I think RP in an embryonic form only started to appear ...

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I wonder how the borg was supposed to use his "additional fun gear" in a way that didn't harm anyone else whatsoever. Non-antag scientist gives a maxcap to a non-antag assistant. Assistant: "What should I do with this?" Scientist: *shrug Assistant: *blows up medbay Assistant is d...

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If I get emagged i'm assuming the person is antag (therefore I am too) unless told otherwise, especially when I get something on par with "idc what you do". That's not to say I think emagged borgs should assume they can level the station since they still have to obey their now-very-loose ...

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Hm yes I can see how law 4 in this case would make it quite different than a simple one-human law. I still find the "mimes can't talk so whatever happens after they mess with silicon laws can in no way be their fault" argument a bit flimsy. Since this is a policy thread and not a ban appea...

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I was under the impression that giving harmful laws to silicons as non-antag is bannable, and if silicons go on a rampage due to those laws you're responsible for any death that occured. Purging is covered by silicon policy and doesn't give them a license to murderbone, but that's different from ema...

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If you're going to raise movespeed again, please bring back the chat wheel too

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I think this is less about people looting a corpse's firesuit because the station is on fire right now and more about "lol time to break into medbay to get epic phat lewtz off of corpses. Neat, this assistant has insuls and toolbelt *YOINK*" type situations. why is this bad? Because it's ...

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I don't know if it has been suggested before but... how about force assistants to be race-restricted to non-human races? Basically the opposite of what happens with heads of staff. If your character is human you're changed into a random roundstart non-human race, otherwise you join normally. It's a ...

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Be head and: a) have nothing to do because your crew is competent, but you still cant just bugger off because responsibilities or b) get nothing done because your crew is incompetent and your department is on fire, but you still cant suicide because responsibilities Or be no head and: a) get shit d...

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Even if I don't actually need it to survive, it's not like I'm looting that juicy e-gun and armor specifically "to be a dick" to the player, so rule 1 shouldn't come into consideration anyway.

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I can't say I miss drones. They were always trying to toe the line of their lawset. This too. I always remembered drones going on the shuttle even though it directly contradicted their laws since they weren't maintaining the station to the best of their ability and fucking around on the shuttle mig...

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Making other players outright invisible to drones would be a good start.

But I suspect that if the "non-interference clause" was somehow fully hardcoded, people wouldn't want to play drone in the first place

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Medbay personnel have access to powerful crowd control weaponry, more than enough to subdue and throw out (or even kill, if escalation allows it) any interloper. Also medbay sec officers. If I'm broke and I need a quick buck, I'll hit the cloning queue and look for some fat IDs. I try not to get not...

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Lumbermancer wrote:Real assistant main would just abuse extended access while ignoring the job.

No way I'm keeping the department suit on, and then I'd get chain-arrested for trespassing. It gets boring after a while. Just loot the place first

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don't change anything about assistants or how they play. instead, put a job limit on them that changes over time and scales with how many people are playing security/heads (and, to a lesser extent, the regular jobs). if you want to play a certain role but without the responsibilities, you'd have to...

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I'm an assistant main, I don't play much anymore but when I do it's always assistant. Why? Because I enjoy the relaxed pace and being able to wander around without people pestering me. I get to test and learn about recently added features without others screaming at me for not knowing them. I can st...

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Lumbermancer wrote:oof

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ns_CDL.pdf

Why was #15 censored? Was it really really bad?

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Communicating with prisoners/suspects as much as you reasonably can is a good way to start. Wordlessly throwing suspects in the brig with the occasional "you're wanted, shut up" in response to their questions is the #1 reason people call sec shitcurity.

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As long as the doc is acting in good faith (i.e. he's actually trying to get the patient back on his feet, not just killing and throwing him in the clone queue and forgetting about him) it should fall into "banning for incompetence" territory, which I think admins don't like to do.

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So what is reasonable escalation against security falsely arresting you? It happens from time to time that an officer tries to arrest you for false reasons. Ranging from harmless crimes to thinking you are an antag. It brings you in a really shitty situation since officers almost always stun before...

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Providing the Queen provided ascent for the law being put to her today, the prime minister is deploying a Blackadder'esque "cunning plan" to supply a additional letter to the EU explaining why "rogue parliment's" propopsition to extend is a bad idea and to make them reconsider. ...

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The government was sworn in yesterday morning. Literally the first thing they did was challenge a regional law that was supposed to help deporting illegals.

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Italy is no longer far-right. Salvini's nationalists left the government and a new coalition was formed between the populist Five Stars and the socdems. So the government went from national-populist to social-populist. We'll see how it goes...

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Wait a second, how did you guys even come up with this thing about devs referencing specific current political events? All I found in this thread was this (which sparked the whole argument) https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/459163612196634626/558656202095984661/D2QET...

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You're all kinda missing the point of my original post though. Its entirely possible (as Bloodlines 1 and multitudes of games have already) do inter-group politics in contemporary settings without a need to go full fucking Cliffy B: https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1502/34/1502344991867.png Yeah tha...

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Super Mario 64 came out in 96 and didn't feature the Srebrenica Massacre, I guess my argument is void

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My goal post is "it's normal for games with a contemporary setting to reference contemporary events" and you're nitpicking the examples I pulled from memory while missing the bigger picture. Yes, SoF had some missions set in Iraq despite being released before the 2003 Iraq war, because Ira...

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Super Aggro Crag wrote:Soldier of fortune came out before the iraq war dumpass

Holy shit do you think the war on terror happened in a vacuum? Do you even know that your country bombed Baghdad in '98/99 or so?

inb4 "We bomb so many countries it's hard to keep track"

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I played soldier of fortune and I recall literally seeing SADDAM FUCKING HUSSEIN through my sniper optics, the fuck are you on?

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Wut, I'm talking about games with a contemporary setting, like this one. Of course sci fi or WW2 games wouldn't have you killing brown people, don't be dense. Wasn't the first modern warfare before 2010, with much of the plot being faux Iraq invasion? What about soldier of fortune, which was even ea...

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What exactly is gonna age poorly? Sex/gender politics, which have been around since the sixties, order vs anarchy, left vs right? Watchdogs 2-tier "orange-man-but-not-in-name bad" references, unironic deferences to Gamergate, etc Devs have been doing that shit for years and its all very t...

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What exactly is gonna age poorly? Sex/gender politics, which have been around since the sixties, order vs anarchy, left vs right?

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Doctor Pork wrote:
Grazyn wrote:I don't mind anime avatars, I do mind out-of-season avatars. It's March for Christ's sake

Isn't there a forum rule against out-of-season Christmas avatars?

Edit: there is, reported

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She's free. The sea captain who rammed a German aid group’s rescue ship into an Italian police boat while trying to bring 40 migrants ashore should be freed from house arrest, a judge in Sicily ruled Tuesday night. Italian state TV said Judge Alessandra Vella concluded that Rackete was “doing her du...

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Actual answer: It isn't proven, but it's almost common knowledge that human traffickers make contact with NGO ships to organize easier transfer of migrants. They tow a dinghy full of people a few miles off the Libyan coast until they spot the ship, then they cut the line and let them sit there for ...

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I thought away missions like snowdin were simply moved to VR. No need for the gateway, admins can just spawn it if they need it for some "the Mist"-like event.

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I also don't seem to understand why she didn't just make for the port of another country? She chose a very weird hill to end her life on Long answer: Sea Watch says that, according to international maritime law (which Italy ratified), people rescued at sea must be taken to the nearest safe port, wh...

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Also the article isn't entirely correct, yes it was a police launch but it was the customs police, which is a branch of the military, thus making it a warship by definition. So the captain is being charged with "attempted sinking of a warship" which is a much more serious crime. Combined w...

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Salvini is calling it an act of war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48809134

This is not ending well for her. She's saying that she acted out of necessity because some migrants were about to commit suicide.

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Update: tonight the captain decided to rush the harbour (the ship has been sitting a mile away from the coast for the last couple days), a coast guard boat attempted to stop it from docking but was almost crushed against the dock ( video ) The captain was arrested and the migrants disembarked. Fun f...

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Salvini knows he'll never hear the end of it if he opens fire on an unarmed civilian vessel. He's currently considering 2 options to retaliate against Europe Option 1: suspend Schengen and reintroduce border controls. This means long lines at the borders, which combined with the imminent vacation se...

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The crew will be imprisoned, obviously, and the ship impounded. The migrants, who knows.

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Today a Dutch ship manned by a German NGO with 40 migrants on board forced the blockade set up by our government against foreign migrant-carrying ships. The captain, a German 30-year old girl, made the decision after lingering for 2 weeks just outside territorial waters waiting for a green light tha...

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There are a lot of silly emoticons but not

and variations thereof

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Before you add every single ooc word to the list, keep in mind we don't have LOOC and there should still be a way to communicate ooc concepts to another player (it's usually done with double parenthesis)

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The trick works when the other guy is actually a traitor and bought antag stuff, your PM will cause him to be searched and the items found, so he'll be immediately executed. You need to send the PM under someone else's name or you will end up executed as well since you just confirmed you are an anta...

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>steal someone else's pda or buy agent ID >wait for highlighted words to appear in chat >PM HoS "hey that guy is a traitor he used codeword" >2 people dead (that guy and pda owner) with 0 effort You could do this before by just knowing what the code words are are you stupid or something T...

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