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ThanatosRa wrote:BE THE CHANGE SERVER 2 NEEDS. So we can keep it. And I can go there when sybil is full.

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Also, there's a group of players who all like it and play on it and like playing on it. That's enough for me.

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Byond account and character name : hotelbravolima, Myriam Rathens Banning admin : Tsaricide Ban type (What are you banned from?) : Headrev Ban reason and length : Permanent, suiciding as headrev without adminhelping. Time ban was placed (including time zone) : Early today. Your side of the story : ...

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We're trying to get summoner in for a Big Important Talk but they're a little scarce on IRC. Hm.

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I've had this unpleasant feeling that I made a mistake all throughout this, hence asking for feedback from players, admins, headmins, my weird handling of this whole situation. Since the headmins have left it up to me and me alone to decide, I'm reversing the decision I made. [14:25] <Tornadium> Fro...

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Sorry. I could (and should) have taken more care with this. I don't agree with the idea that this constitutes any kind of negligence. I was misled by a person I trusted and I made a decision. I'm absolutely certain you've been in the same place at some point in your life. EDIT : Also, summoner, come...

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You're being No Fun Allowed, and at the same time, I agree it's dumb. And I'm one of the people who's done it. If you want to just say Stop Doing It that's fine. I dunno, just make a poll for it beforehand or something to see if people wouldn't mind. That's what I've taken to doing a lot of the time...

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The point is that it's a judgement call based on how the player acts and whether they shit up the game for others, like it's always been in this case. Hence Rule Zero Permaban. No precedent or specific rule is needed to remove a person being a giant pain in the ass for other people, it never has bee...

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Yep, I've been waffling a lot on this. Hence this thread at all. I wanted to see whether Tornadium would do the Phoenix Wright villanous breakdown like Kavaloosh, or what people thought in general. Okay, I'm going to reduce the serverban to a month , which is still a long dang time. But during this ...

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It seems clear there's a personal edge to this, and I'm not a hundred percent happy with that. Nik, to be frank I see you often assume a malice behind orange's actions that I just don't see. This post sponsored by orange's Support HBL campaign, as disclosed under the Campaign Finance Act of 2552. Bu...

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Is it really better to force it one way or the other rather than dealing with the issues of trying a bit of both? Isn't that kind of the point of TG as opposed to other places that do have a more unified direction? Also there's the 'state religion' problem. Multiple religions would like to be the of...

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I dunno. I've said it before but I'll say it again just to clarify; the Headmins are welcome to come and handle this as they see fit. I'm not prepared to lift it myself, but I'd like this thread to remain open until like, nobody else has stuff to say, or shitposts begin.

That's not an invitation.

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That's the thing about the balloon; it's a symbol of Valid. It was deliberately purchased by somebody, and that's the message it sends, and every single person in TG down to the new people understands that. So either you purchased it to hold, or you found it and began to hold it. Which means you cho...

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People might balk at it because we're edgy and space-tough, but the term 'sportsmanship' really is the best summary IMO. In such a case where you're being a bad sport, whether or not you think the policy covers you, don't be shocked if your shit just starts to vanish. And I don't mean murdering peop...

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DemonFiren wrote:Quoting himself in his forum signature.

Therefore, slowly succumbing to administrative egomania.

I think it's the mark of a great man.

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Incoming wrote:Literally unenforceable.

Malkevin wrote:Antags don't get protection because they don't have restrictions, it is only logical.

I'm Game Master because my ability to emptyquote is unmatched.

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I'm gonna do a thing here, and welcome anybody to step forward with what they think. As long as it's not a straight-up shitpost or 'he a faget', then I want to hear what you, yes, you think about Tornadium and whether he should be out, or whether he should be in. Posts, even ones normally that would...

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That could be made to work, I think, if you made the corner computer actually on the same tile as the chair but then offset it. I know that's how you get wall-things like newscasters to work from more than one tile away.

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Yeah, fuck it. Cheri's getting a weekban from the server, which is my standard for banbaiting, or lying to admins about an incident like this. Really, take your pick.

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I can say that it feels like lately more than ever, I need to start every conversation with an adminhelper with the phrase 'And that was literally all you did to cause it?'

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Yep, but it wasn't merged unfortunately. Instead there's a maint there that exists solely to make you regret being one of the (many, severely unappreciated) HoPs who actually stays in their office and helps out. Also I meant full . Perma, armory, HoS office. For every Head. Just in case. Also Sec re...

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Cheri admitted that the very least, his first reply in this thread was trolling, which is either being a hyper-class jerk, or suicidal, given that it's a ban request against him . Or he just thinks it could never happen. Which is understandable, given that the only reason the kebab hasn't been remov...

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So the HoP is the only job on the station aside from Assistants that shouldn't get literally any space that's just for them? Come on, Malk. I know for a fact you wouldn't feel that way if your main was HoP, because I know how you'd react if somebody suggested that all Heads should get all Security a...

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I love the camera loop idea. No clue how practical it would be to do, but it makes total sense and would be a cool way for an AI to handle this issue... ,,,that wouldn't require looking at my stopwatch to see if I should ban the Warden for checking a select few cameras yet, or if it's deemed accepta...

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I spawned the bomb to grief MMMiracles, which I'm sure we can all agree is a worthy cause. I can confirm from watching in awe that the battle against them was like a war, and Security was taken right to the limit. Cheridan actually adminhelped being killed and wanted your head, Oldman, and me and ot...

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It surprised me that they weren't full admin, that probably says a lot.

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-1 Notes are used weeks, months, and even years into the future by admins in a direct way to see if a person deserves mercy, or a rusty knife in the back. ... Like, more than everyone does, I mean. We could just begin to apply the Pasikonik Doctrine more liberally to people who stretch a dayban appe...

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While I agree with what you say, Arete, I can't help but worry the same thing I do with the Low Rules stuff. A lot of things, if they were made okay to do once in a while, would indeed spice up the game and make it more fun/interesting. But if they move from Don't Do It to 'you can do it if you feel...

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To really boil this down, you got a direct order not to murderbone, expressed that you didn't like it, and proceeded to murderbone.

Can you see why people might see that as you being a jerk and then fabricating reasons for it later when challenged?

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My personal opinion has been 'never bomb any part of the actual station as a non-antag for any reason, yes, even blobs and wizards and shit' but that's just IMO. At very best you've killed something that deserved it and in the process punched a big old hole through your own station, endangering ever...

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I don't get it, I haven't been on today at all.

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This is precisely like proposing the removal of the clown. Actually Goon did that and they're still SS13... this is like proposing we remove the act of murdering other players itself, or the ability to change the pre-set architecture or destroy it. Also, >People pulling out the H u g box rhetoric as...

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I liked the old idea that you wanted to do as few things to discourage adminhelping as possible, since admin PMs are not, in fact, some horrifying punishment (unless one or both parties make it so, in which case that's a separate issue)... ... And the idea that they are is deeply stupid and conterpr...

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This is my OOC theme song that should come into your head whenever I make an appearance.

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My AIs, normal mode.

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And in less normal mode

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Props to scones for spotting this in the first place, btw. Hot and fresh adminbus leaks coming atcha: [22:28] <~MrStonedOne> there perma ban is a logged before being questioned type [22:28] <~MrStonedOne> so that should be an easy appeal [22:29] <@hotelbravolima> ye [22:29] <@hotelbravolima> I think...

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Fairly sure I PMed you moments later that it was actually cool and I was making one of my usual epic and funny jokes, but it probably got lost in the shuffle. Sorry.

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Doesn't the Captain have ultimate authority to do whatever he wants on his station? Sure, he's a dick but he's the sole person on board that has the right to be a dick. Intervening just to say that this isn't correct. The Captain still has to follow the laws IC as much as any member of the crew, an...

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Horrible fucking round. Was it due to the AI happening to roll traitor and thus making every problem worse in a cascade effect? I dunno, possibly. Normally I'd say that meant this wasn't a good 'test' of it, but since you actually want to chop the rules up, Sticky, well. This is what's going to fuck...

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I'm inclined to believe this, this many TG players can't even agree on whether or not Hitler was a good guy. Let me see if the logs are still around in a convenient form for me to access. EDIT : you're kidding me, he talks in all caps, all the time EDIT 2 : Okay, maybe not all the time. Just a lot. ...

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The trouble I see is that it is literally down to admin interpretation which in some cases I do not trust. I have no way to say this without sounding insulting, so please forgive me, but welcome to dealing with a human system created and enforced by human beings. What you're asking for is a system ...

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lumipharon wrote:What do people expect to gain from seeing private admin chat logs or whatever?

Ammunition.

Also Kor is here now and he actually like exists, so that's at least 2/3 so hopefully that issue might lessen.

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Posting to express hype, and if you get this in a workable state I'll bully Sticky until we playtest it.

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+1 to callan for bringing this to the attention of the court.

You'll get a pulse rifle the next time I see you in-round.

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Well it works the exact same as a permaban mechanically, a server ban that has no expiration date. But the trigger to get it removed is different. Most people seem like they get the idea.

Especially when we specifically write it into the ban reason.

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Detonated a bomb in the medical hallway as a non-antag and then disconnected after I PM'd you. Please explain yourself on the forums: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/index.php It's routine to do this to people who log off before we can talk to them, to force the issue. It was never intended for you t...

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this thread is turning into a shitflinging ad hom fest Pretty sure this exact same thing happened in the old one too, so let's try us a thing. The next person to post ad hom without any argument/reason/support behind it (as in, not being salty while arguing a case, but 'you're a fag and get deadmin...

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It's always been my understanding that Asimov AIs can never directly ask for law changes. Under the policy, they can allow it if it's the Captain or da da da but just saying 'make me Paladin lol' is bad and should be adminhelped. AI involves some of that 'you do know what subtlety is, right?' especi...

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mosquitoman wrote:Windows 8 has a built-in backdoor that allows Microsoft to install or remove any application on your computer remotely. That means you have no control over your own PC.

I want to not-believe this so much, but I also remember what Microsoft gleefully tried to pull with the Xbone.

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What do you think we should do with Techno, then?

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This situation seems extremely cut and dry, I'd love to hear from Quartz about his reasoning.

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For the first part, thank you. For the second part, the obvious response anybody would say is that when they are angry or abrasive or spiteful, it's deserved. That's what I'd say about this too, but hey. I've gotten this bit of feedback multiple times so it's possible I'm wrong. It's been known to h...

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