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we ban people for any other delibrate server crash why remove a feature for just this source.

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i love that it was after we got map rotation that people realised there was no reason to ditch it.

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whodaloo wrote:that's completely untrue, MSO has run server map votes a ton of times with metastation winning

it would probably fall into the same thing allways after a few weeks.

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palpatine213 wrote: Still a pretty good admin. Needs to stop pushing 4 catgirl rights though.

i have space bast set as my chaplin deity a cat fan as an admin will be great.

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have the supermatter come in an unlocked crate.

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it only stops killing the heads

i dont even understand the last bit.

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this thread has made me change my mind on plasmaman lore though I used to like the backstory but the more I think about it the more I realise its really quite stupid.

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if they get injected through a port how could you explain syringe guns its hard to explain aim that good and being imune to syringe guns is a prety huge buff.

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It'd be a simple change, that wouldn't fundamentally alter the way the roundtype is played, and yet would make rounds like these far more interesting. i agree that revs should not go killing non heads at the start of the round but i dont see how the proposed change affects that at all. Also all it ...

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i dont see the problem with structual damage but if people are that against it i agree just buffing its antipersonal ability is the right way to go.

It should definintly be able to blow welding fuel tanks though even if it has to be given extra code just for that.

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dorfisdorf went full retard and said captains should be allowed to throw there glasses at random people

some other idiots said that depowering doors is only to stop syndieborgs (it was still a shit thing to do though)

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If possible could you cause your drama in my feedback thread on the new pipe layout i want to get more peoples opinion. ADD SOME FUCKING PIPES CROSSING SOME DAMN HALLS HOLY SHIT IT TAKES 3 HOURS TO GET FROM MEDBAY TO THE BAR i think you just pinpointed the bigest problem with it (not the only one b...

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damit remie dont use shity acrynoms

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people are strange is a furry

im a brony (man even in the drama starting thread i feel dirty using the word im a nor/mlp/erson damit)

Miauw is from bay12

medbay stutterwhores

thats all ive got

tuypo1

wait did the ntsl removal get merged.

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special exosuit that allows the wearer to handle supermatter safely (untill it explodes anyway)

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there was me being autistic about captains in the upload but that calmed down once it became clear nobody was going to change anybodys mind on the matter.

If possible could you cause your drama in my feedback thread on the new pipe layout i want to get more peoples opinion.

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yeah funny thing is i never noticed the pun when i first came up with the name.

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just remove dna extract sting the horror of ling should be in people slowly going missing. Death is a thing that happens on space station 13 just go grab a drone.

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i suppose your right.

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im inclined to call tabling harmfull due to frustration with people who insist its not assault but even without that i would say its harmful or at least say tablers are harmful people. It would be more direct to just say that tables are harmful but then your acting like an antag (crew should be will...

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you could give people with a guardian spirit the ability to scramble their spirit which kicks out the ghost inside of it and pulls another random ghost "guardian spirit stop punching me and do as i say or i swear to god i will scramble you" people cant git gud if you get rid of them if th...

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i dont see why they cant be mystical.

I should expand on my aversion to utility spirits i think if a traitor wants utility they should take a utility item.

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just go back to gaurdian spirit.

Also i think utility spirits are the wrong way to go they should be primarilary combat tools.

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Amelius wrote:'Guardian Spirits'

Can we stop pretending and just called them stands? Anyways, I totally missed the round, but it sounds cool.

why use a refrence not everybody knows instead of a simple phrase that gives everybody some idea what they are.

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ok thats insane buff now.

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As noted, IED's were nerfed not due to their physical damage but due to how much structural damage they could deal. A few IED's could ruin the station's powernet's, suffice it to say it was being abused significantly to cut off power to area's of the station (mostly sec) as well as to break into th...

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Also captains should upload more fun laws at roundstart, like 4: tabling is harmful to humans. i agree that captains should upload more fun laws its being a comdom but in a good way as much as i kick and scream to stop it ic ooc i love fun laws and ic i love robocop and protectstation i just cant a...

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i never said ian was more important then the rest of the crew i said unnesecary extra humans endanger crew and theres no way to know thats really whats been uploaded. Anzay the ai does not recognise the chain of command. You are unlikely to see me getting lynched though i rarely play ai anymore beca...

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to get back on topic and as a contrast to my earlier posts people who don't get wizards declared non-human then complain when I wont let them borg or incinerate them.

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ian being human is very harmfull it makes his life as important as the rest of the crew i now have to keep him safe even if it means putting the crew in danger. 1. No, because you're not allowed to put the crew in danger, not even to save a human life. You are also not allowed to NOT save a human l...

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on the matter at hand you seem to miss that law changes help stop antags you're not supposed to stop antags as ai tho yes you are its right in the first law you may not through inaction allow a human to come to harm. If you dont want the ai to stop antags why are you so desprate to get its laws cha...

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theres no imident harm to override the future harm every other room in the station has a non harmfull use the upload doesent

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The Captain, accompanied by the HoP and RD, orders you to "let us into the upload, we'd like to make Ian a human". Do you do it? Yes, because it's not harmful, and you don't have probable cause to think it will be, either. ian being human is very harmfull it makes his life as important as...

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we need a more robust fire system in general.

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Is it kosher to deny access to upload to say the Captain unless they bring another head or a security escort? Silicon policy answers this question, if I'm not mistaken Unless you have probable cause of harm or something similar, let the man in A single person with access to the AI Core can subvert ...

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because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it Or you get someone else to help you under. Or you ride a Mulebot. Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature. an...

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on the matter at hand you seem to miss that law changes help stop antags you're not supposed to stop antags as ai tho yes you are its right in the first law you may not through inaction allow a human to come to harm. If you dont want the ai to stop antags why are you so desprate to get its laws cha...

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i mispelt something deal with it i think your still buthurt from years ago on bay12 on the matter at hand you seem to miss that law changes help stop antags tuypo1 more like typo1 AM I RIGHT HERE FOLKS? pulling the "lol bay" card is low though, there's a massive difference between "d...

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Is it kosher to deny access to upload to say the Captain unless they bring another head or a security escort? Silicon policy answers this question, if I'm not mistaken Unless you have probable cause of harm or something similar, let the man in policy as it stands allows you to insist on a trustwort...

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i meant Admit Defeat in convincing people a policy change is needed

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The Captain, accompanied by the HoP and RD, orders you to "let us into the upload, we'd like to make Ian a human". Do you do it? Yes, because it's not harmful, and you don't have probable cause to think it will be, either. ian being human is very harmfull it makes his life as important as...

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Being subverted is part of the fun. Someone with legit access and no indication of doing harm should be let in. i agree that being subverted is fun but wanting to enter the upload is an indication of doing harm there is no other reason to ever enter. Im suprised i seem to be alone on this matter i ...

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as a response to what saegimr said. so why do atmos and the armory both places with legitmate non harmfull uses get far more protection i suppose the captain falls under qualified in its use but thats only the cap and the rd. As a more general statement. Policy as it stands gives the ai ability to d...

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I have made a thread in policy discussion where we can continue this conversation

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4829

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so as not to shit up the pet peeves thread how much should the ai protect its upload i myself think it should just plain keep everybody out.

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not allowing yourself to be subverted is the exact opisiote of powergaming asimov cripples the ai. Where abouts in law one does it say you have to prevent future harm? Hint: it doesn't silicon policy says lesser immident harm takes precedence over greater future harm that implies future harm matter...

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i mispelt something deal with it i think your still buthurt from years ago on bay12

on the matter at hand you seem to miss that law changes help stop antags

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friendly antags are cancer.

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6.1 one mentions lethal weapons. 6.5 mentions getting somebody trustworthy the hop is not trustworthy and once somebody is in there if i see them take a board those turrets are firing. You dont even need the upload secure tech storage is behind a single r-wall. Even then its a policy i have never se...

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