/tg/Station 13

When you're going delta or when ordered to, a subverted AI is not owed the right to murderbone just because an antag got access to a lawboard change. For general antags, you can also F1 if you think the round is going on for "too long" to see if its ok for you to start otherwise rulebreaki...

But making a deadman switch bomb whether you're an antag or not , i.e. prepping for attacks without reason to be cautious of attacks, does not fly. It's too much even on Sybil, and on Manuel it's a pretty damn iffy for any nonantag on Manuel, no matter what the current threats. He only did it after...

the existing tradeoff is theyre not as hard to obtain

Who is genuinely going to lookup someones ckey to see if they have say traitor banned in dynamic? Sure if you know there is one traitor and it has to be X or Y then it might narrow it down but thats no different than me seeing old Athena Hunt on any job as not sec. The only thing that should have re...

Even things like F2S> staff of animate doesnt work half the time and the statue-person is ALIGNED with the wizard, hence why hardly anyone runs that build despite its extremely strong power. A game mechanic designed entirely on administrative presence is really bad as well, particularly because 1) w...

To clarify, The AI CAN selectively plasmaflood rooms, but depending on the room it might take them editing pipe configurations which takes time. They can NOT do this with just the air alarm, they need to edit the gas composition leading to the vents, either by putting the bad gas in the entirety of ...

yeah the plasmaflood thing seems like miscommunication instead of malice, I cant see how you can come to the conclusion of lying unless theres some previous interactions or something. needs to stop larping as vekter with the "what the fuck are you doing" esque style of adminning, its actua...

maybe my mechanics need to be brushed up on but seeing the plasma hallucination makes sense to say plasmaflood especially when youre normally in a place that doesnt have a localized canister port and you see it coming from distro vents.

If one race can have it a player should be able to play as any other race and use that naming scheme "my adopted parents are X race so thats why my name is that". If a name is dumb it shouldnt matter what species you are (assuming the point of naming schemes is for muh immersion and not to...

Nopony says plasmaflood to mean a local area, which should be obvious considering people say "plasma in X" vs. "PLASMAFLOOD/PLASMA IN DISTRO" He was definitely in the wrong in the sense that he didnt communicate his desired actions well, but in other contexts like "do whatev...

There should be proper nicknames so that way you have a legal (snooze boring) name and then if you want to have a more cutesy name that people see you as you have that option.

Or be evil and just add a way to change your "genetic" name ingame so that way every name policy is moot

the player should get unbanned because he can read the posting log rules whereas the admins cannot.

because 1) its important to give players an honest expectation about what they expect to see when actually playing the game and 2) if they try to playing outside of that not only does it get them banned but it also ruins the game for the people already playing the game "hardly anyone plays"...

Hugbox is like a projection though because op needing 1 hit stuns to win the game and posting about such on a server op presumably doesnt play or care about sounds a lot more hugbox than the idea that removing 1 hit stuns arent that great for the game. Killing takes more skill to pull off successful...

I think the vote should apply to both, the only difference between the two (and why its on MRP now) is Another concern i've had with streaming and even youtube videos about ss13 is that individuals might get a skewed version of how the game plays out if they only see murderbone montage or mischief m...

man if ur gonna call us hugbox at least dont post a video where you have to use

adrenals
freedom
1click hard stuns
fireaxe with extra armor pen and stuns

to "win the game".

Well yeah if its after the game ends then the point is moot because you cant influence the current game. Plenty of streamers hide invite codes and things specifically because of how these people might influence the NEXT game as well. Its very dependent on your viewerbase (or the fringe individual lo...

Its not about the streamer its about the other players. The streamer obviously accepts the risks, the players who divulge information to the streamer (or the game revealing information to the streamer about the person) have not had the ability to say if theyre ok with it or not (maybe they have via ...

whats up with lowpop bone recently, I am to blame partially for not reporting it as it happens but it seems like its becoming much more common. Since I started playing I have been in 1 round where at least 1 antag isnt leveling the place (minus the space dragon but whatever), and that was on manuel ...

being slow is already ruining, if you're rest-weaving you're making a last ditch effort.

dodging bullets by getting on the ground was kinda epic, its wont be like times of old since we have made it pretty impossible to do it reliably (theres a delay on getting back up so youre slow aka freekill)

I would take issue with Cat Vore for someone who isn't a Wizard, Entertainer, or Silicon because it's clearly not actually a name . Dreary Doom... rides the line of whether it's a name, but IMO it "feels" enough like a name that it doesn't immediately take me out the way Cat Vore does (ev...

It depends on the name, idrc if you had a million stories as "cat vore", it's a stupid name. The issue is "cat vore" is REALLY bad and immersion breaking UNLESS you're a clown/wizard because haha wacky!! Hard to hold a standard for the more grey areas under the specific reason of...

I was really fearful of having my trans friend come on to play ss13 but I showed them this pr and theyre crying tears of joy.

Naming policy simply cant stand on caring about immersion/ the RP when you give specific roles the ability to largely forego the policy.

The difference between among us / TTT / town of salem / your fav game is that its match based and therefore new players cannot join (TTT joins as spectator). Even then, in moba games the crucial elements like pre-drafted team comp or even where the rest of the team is on the map is sometimes hidden ...

cult with the construction materials to cast the spells was the best dont at me.

a big fix for the pH system would be if the buffers did not get eaten on reaction (or only after a reaction has come to completion), with an additional buff of things like plumbing sucking up the buffers for reuse vs. throwing them into output. Perhaps even more interesting would be if we didnt have...

Putting chaotic but not inherently lethal behind an emag is a challenge, not a deterrent. Most of the shuttles generally just make the shuttle more easier to sabotage vs. making it lethal from the box. Only exception I can think of is arena where u actually filter the shuttle pop just by entering it...

It really isnt complicated though, its easy enough theres a 4x4 table. Antags can kill under - Self Defense and Preservation - Collateral Damage - Pursuit of Objectives - Pursuit of creating a unique, lethal gimmick/backstory 3/4 already exist in rules For Backstory/Gimmicks you have - Stick to a si...

Replaces the murderbone policy in current rules (it is no longer called murderboning or even mentions boning). Notable differences: Clarifies some issues presented based on feedback Removes the word murderboning, murderboning-enabled antagonists are now just called "BBG" as per epic tablet...

Am I missing something, What rule prevents you from killing if the scenario aligns with: Self defense (including witnesses) Collateral Pursuit of objectives Someone slighted you The big difference between that and bay's rules is the importance of objectives, which is completely absent from bay's mu...

Am I missing something, What rule prevents you from killing if the scenario aligns with: Self defense (including witnesses) Collateral Pursuit of objectives Someone slighted you What scenario falls out of that in which you want people to undertake? Is it just the sheer word count throwing people off...

would be funny if there was a power that let you change where ur brain is located (you can pick from a bodypart currently on you)

You could probably make the bone rules more vague but you’re going to get To a point where you’re having to choose how to fairly quantify to a player that they’re approaching what most admins would consider no-goes. I don’t think this would benefit from making it so vague it’s admin tossup since by ...

"Its quite difficult" is not synonymous to "its not possible". As a player you have full right to defend yourself from an officer harassing you for reasons beyond your explanation. If you didnt do something, then its not a valid arrest, therefore you can already escalate appropr...

"Its quite difficult" is not synonymous to "its not possible". As a player you have full right to defend yourself from an officer harassing you for reasons beyond your explanation. If you didnt do something, then its not a valid arrest, therefore you can already escalate appropri...

It would be much less of an issue if people didn’t shut off brain anytime someone red did something. I had a recent experience where I supposedly didn’t open a door for someone as MD so instead of explaining the issue they demanded I put myself in cuffs and lef them “take me to brig” when I didn’t d...

If you dont like it you can ask for a vaccine. It's not grief though because we dont consider any other form of non-con beneficial virus spreading grief. In general you should be pitchforks and torches for any virus with sneeze/high trans in it, good or bad. If you know you have a disease and you ar...

im still mad some of the CC stuff was removed, particularly the effects, cuz I could use them for non-admin stuff like events and its hard to replicate that easily.

I dont mind sec being antag-protected I just am not keen on the obvious problems associated with heads getting the same protection and as you mentioned is even easier to larp as. Even more frustrating is that it feels glossed over in the conversation.

I challenge anyone arguing against protected heads of staff to explain to me why security should be protected without using an argument that could also be applied to heads of staff. There isn’t one because it’s a compromise. The quirky part is that there’s a pretty glaring issue with even sec not b...

Please knock it off with the trialmin jabs If you are going to come into the thread bad faith it’s not going to help your case even if it’s determined that you are in the right.

You will still run into the same problem bringing it up from 15 to 30, people keep making variants of this thread and no one seems to have anything besides "it sounds about right" when actually asking the question does raising the req prevent or even help curb incompetent heads outside of ...

Which is why I added the portion about (or the less time you put in time to get them alive). A body that is not catered to outside of a reasonable timeframe should also come with downsides, hence why stasis beds getting thrown into the mix hampers that. The generic design is the more ignored a body ...

Disclaimer I have not tried it yet. You should not have to pay money from your personal account to do your job, Vending machines are acceptable at least in Medical’s case because it encourages them to use the non vending method to make stuff but especially when we start talking about stock parts and...

The upgrade organs should not be gated behind an experiment medical has zero expectation to do. To my knowledge not even a medicinal use for BZ to justify otherwise buying the canister. The experiment's onus should be on the department that benefits most from the research, and making BZ is not reall...

can't be sure but it looks like the admin was gently telling him that he should look into it himself because he deserved it If he deserved it the admin should know why because that would imply they looked into it to come to that conclusion. It’s an incredibly strange thought process like imagine yo...

This is exactly why I don’t want anymore roles to be protected. The CMO can still be an antag, it just can’t be the true/starting CMO. It runs into the issue of meta protections on the other extreme where any antag who larps as a head gets an instant i win because the gamers blindly trust them since...

As someone who intended for the murderboning rules to be very pro player I will say making it difficult to ascertain your reason when the entire rule is about said reasoning is not in your favor. Same would be true if you killed a nonantag as a nonantag in LRP, you can be banned for schizo freak out...

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