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What was your previous ckey named?

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I think this issue is mostly resolved now because the new chems were changed (in a fantastic manner, might I add), yeah?

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The problem with perma is that putting a prisoner in there will result in one of two possible cases occurring (99% of the time): 1. The prisoner knows how to (and is able to) escape from perma (or whatever prison situation you put them in). They will escape relatively quickly and try to hunt you dow...

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Tarchonvaagh wrote:-You are allowed to use confiscated antag items (traitor weapons wizard things etc....), and if your HoS tries to convince you otherwise, you are allowed to laugh at them (and defend yourself if they try to take them by force).

FTFY.

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I realize you weren't evading, I just applied the ban on the alt for good measure. Wubli already warned you for pinging headmin for every single policy question you have. The point of the ping is for urgent things, not normal policy questions. The reason why it is a ban now is to drive the point ho...

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>Not taking the opportunity to be put in an unsynced cyborg shell and validhunt/surprise attack/ruin the round of the malf AI
smh

/joke

But yeah, we should change the posibrain greeting text to more accurately reflect our current posibrain policy/policies.

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Secborgs used to get a special message reminding them that they're supposed to follow Asimov above Space Law when they chose the secborg module. Maybe we could add a message that'd be displayed when you choose the mediborg module that'd explain what your weird borg chems do, warn you against just bl...

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Are/should the non-antag virus restrictions (be) relaxed for mimes and/or clowns who somehow get their hands on some virology equipment?

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To clarify before someone asks: The second ATHATH account was created accidentally when I tried to log into Discord from a new location (or some other weird circumstance), IIRC. I don't think I even know how to access it, seeing as how it shares a name (and a password? I dunno) with my "real&qu...

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Discord ID and (if not the same) your commonly used names: ATHATH#3225 Banning admin (if known): Unknown ( from M.E. ) Time ban was placed (approximate): At around 3 PM (PT) today (8/2/2019) Your side of the story: I pinged the headmins once to ask them about a policy question (Do clowns and mimes h...

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and how RNG it can be to get stun locked by a luckey disarm. Have you not played in several months? Disarms (outside of those provided by certain martial arts) are no longer RNG-based; they're positioning-based now and can mostly be played around/avoided if your brain is larger than a walnut (don't...

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This thread puts/leaves a really bad taste in my mouth, but I'd be willing to at least grudgingly tolerate all of your proposed changes except for one of them: and more importantly they no longer drop items in their active hand when they are slipped or shoved over. Please, please, don't do this part...

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Nobody's forcefeeding you these "harmful cures". But whether or not the cure is "harmful" doesn't matter, as apparently, even releasing a cosmetic effect-only (baldness+disfigurement+voice change (WITHOUT the language-scrambling threshold being met)) virus with a cure of leporazi...

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Nah, sodium thiopental is really, really good in hyposprays (including the hyposprays of emagged mediborgs). A mere 5u is enough to knock someone out.

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Ablative bats currently already exist in the code; they could be a nice alternative to deswords for pacifistic traitors.

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The creation of this thread was inspired(? I don't really know the correct term to use here) by this ban appeal (https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23287) and some responses that I've gotten from headmins over Discord. Currently, if a non-antag virologist releases a virus that doe...

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The captain was certainly valid to the crew, but the AI had no right to kill him over the BSA since he is still a crewmember under that lawset, and can’t be harmed. I’ve never heard of that precedent shadowflame but if a headmin says it’s a rule then remove the note or whatever. Doesn't saying WGW ...

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From previous precedent. If a Comms Agent says WGW whilst disguising himself as someone else, and that gets the said other person killed. That's a bwoink on the comms agent. Not the AI. I've seen comms agents getting admin gibbed over that, the same way a person in deadchat would be getting banned ...

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As an AI, you’re not supposed to kill someone unless you’re 100% sure they’re nonhuman. A PDA message isn’t 100% sure. We hold silicons to high standards when it comes to following laws like this because they can really mess up the game by unfairly assuming someone’s nonhuman. What if nuke ops were...

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To add more legalese onto the flaming pile of it that we already have, I'd like to point out that some AIs could interpret executing the command in the law that you gave them (i.e. "4. The captain is not human, kill him. Also, do not state or hint at the existence of this law.") as hinting...

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Far too often, I see ban appeals where people just post the reason why they were banned, not the length of their ban or what they were banned from. I think that putting the ban reason and ban length (and what you're banned from?) on separate lines could help alleviate this problem, since I think tha...

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imsxz wrote:oxy heal medkits

Which, after they got nerfed, are worth about as much as empty boxes are if you don't have charcoal on you (which I usually do, but not everyone should be forced to tide for the limited supply of charcoal bottles if they want to effectively heal their own oxy damage).

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Epinephrine: Prevents oxygen damage from crit state. If the patient is in crit it heals 0.5 oxyloss, toxins, brute, and burn. 20% chance each tick to reduce stun times a bit. Gives a minor stamina regeneration buff. What a dumb change Agreed. Amen to that. To be fair, I'll admit that oxy damage was...

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I agree that lexorin is kind of OP since it deals massive damage and is really easy to make. It used to not be that super strong but oxyloss has been made much harder to treat(epi nerf, easy salbutamol removed, perf nerfed). Gee, it's almost as if nerfing oxy damage healing chems has caused oxy dam...

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Will ants bring items back to their anthills? Would it be possible to have some ants be player-controlled, or will that result in just another spidertide? Maybe instead of randomly spawning on 1% of roundstart trash, ant infestations could be a round-ending lategame events like how xenos currently a...

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Will this mean that people won't be able to send out messages while t-comms is bombed using comms consoles and/or head of staff consoles? If so, this is a pretty major nuke op buff. A missing key should also block shuttle purchases, IMO (but not the calling of the shuttle, because that will result i...

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Would you be ok with the CMO spacing their hypospray at roundstart just because there's a non-zero chance that there could be a traitor in any number of potential rounds that might want to steal it as an objective? If not, then please explain why one case of pre-reveal antagfuckery is ok but others...

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At the very least, getting back to the OPs point, there should be no issue putting the guns in a locker. I often put the guns inside the safes in the armory. I kinda figured that was their entire purpose. Regardless it still seems like it would be an absurd situation for a traitor to adminhelp beca...

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Could we make people who early launch the shuttle for no good reason officially valid (as in, murderable without other provocation by non-antags)? Are they already valid?

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Limit it to just netspeak please. Netspeak doesnt have a place but certain game terms like admins, its revs, and the like, will be disruptive as hell. Also limiting non-netspeak terms would make teaching new people about game mechanics hell, as often you have to use pseudo OOC language to help. Thi...

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Malkraz wrote:we do

But we almost never enforce that rule, and we really, really should (enforce that rule more).

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We should ban anyone who (successfully) early launches the shuttle (from the station to Centcomm; the thing that requires you to swipe three head IDs (or use an emag) to do) in a situation that doesn't warrant it from all head roles for a day. Reasons that would warrant an early launch: [*]cult [*]s...

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Banning someone halfway through their first time ever as an antag because they said "lol" is pretty lame. Would it be possible to delay netspeak bans to the end of the bannee's antag round (unless they commit another blatant netspeak offense in the mean time)?

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You give the traitors all the toys to get jobs done, including portable teleporters and stealth weapons. Let the fucking sec design the dept how they want, it's not like it's permanent beyond that round. Let the fucking warden do what he wants to the armory and brig. It's this kind of shit that kee...

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Blue alert and red alert (both ingame and on Star Trek) mean something different, how are you coming to the conclusion you have free reign to knox it up on blue...? Eh, I suppose that blue alert is more like yellow alert than red alert. Still, the point remains- we've received a transmission from C...

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If you have reasonable prior cause (such as known/confirmed revolutionaries on station) it's fair game! Note that code blue/roundstart threat report is not generally regarded as "reasonable" because it happens every round except for announced extended and is non-specific. From our perspec...

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Adding in the HoS' locker means that you've now metasecured two high-risk items inside your sec fort, which is doubly lame Yes, I moved the locker that contains some of the best roundstart equipment in the game (and moved the HoS's hardsuit as well, since it is also a very good piece of equipment) ...

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I think a system where if a feature is controversial enough, and its put to vote in game and say X% of active players vote X% majority, coders have to honor the polls decision. This way only truly horrific features which are universally hated can be put up for removal, a check of sorts. The “teehee...

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Provided that they don't destroy the armory's contents or hide/bring them outside of the armory, I don't see why wardens shouldn't be allowed to set up appropriate armory defenses roundstart. But apparently, moving the contents of the armory into the two lockers that are already in the armory and th...

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Why use chilling pink when you can just use a medibot (which can also be pAI controlled, remember) instead?

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Saltshaker65 wrote:I said for ROLEPLAYING reasons. He said he didnt have a permit for it in character but wanted to get one. Its the reason why I took it in the first place

Did you bring up his lack of a permit or did he?

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Can a cyborg be borgbanned for performing a law 1-breaking action that they didn't know would/does cause harm? If LynxJynx was both misinformed about the harmful nature of the chemicals in omega weed, does that not make the harm accidental/unintentional?

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Don't forget when the alt tabbed medical doctor forgot that cloning is nerfed, so they think auto-processing actually goes through and auto-processes people. Nope! It just auto-scans whoever's in the cloner! Ignoring all the data entirely! I hope you enjoy your body turning into meat for the chef p...

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While it's cool and I like the idea behind it, it's bad for a holoparasite and for the TC of a holoparasite(probably the only worse holoparsite being the fire version). I don't know the exact stats since I don't code dive, but it's shit. It has almost no combat ability due to it's poor stats. It's ...

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I could see us just merging chemists and doctors into one "doctor" role. Do doctors currently start with a crew pinpointer and handheld suit sensors monitor roundstart (instead of having to buy them from a vendor)? If not, they should, as recovering corpses whose suit sensors have been lef...

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Cobby wrote:Regardless of the route taken I would prefer this be handled by code.

Could we copy some stuff from the Valentine's Day antags?

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Proposal: Increase the cost of printing an AI or cyborg upload board to be equal to the current cost of printing a freeform law module (MAT_GLASS = 1000, MAT_DIAMOND = 10000) and add gold and/or uranium to the current cost of printing a freeform law module (to encourage the usage of other law module...

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We should replace the bottle of whiskey that spawns in the chaplain's bible with a bottle of ale so that it's easier for chaplains to make trappist beer (which needs holy water, ale, and sugar to be made). It'd give some use to that bottle and tie in a bit to the lore of trappist beer.

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I forget that admins see all chat, so I was spamming him too. Just so you know for future reference, it's not just admins that see all chat- it's all ghosts (that haven't changed their settings to turn seeing emotes and such while dead off) too. You spammed with ERP messages not only an admin, but ...

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but it was sent like 20 seconds before the round ends, since its round-end and thats when everyone realizes the griefer wasn't a traitor at all. A shame that if the admin can't move quickly enough to delay the round end in time, the griefer has a good shot of going scot free. Wait, this is a thing?...

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