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There is a core difference between interactive play and noninteractive, and I'm definitely more someone learning towards the former even if means making something less reliable or less all-powerful an answer. More chance to engage with what is happening, even if it is at a position of weakness, adds...

To borrow your own comparison from the Manuel discord, I see this interaction as less similar to an antagonist buying soap to clean up the evidence of their crimes, and closer to an antagonist finding out that if they perform a specific set of actions with an esword prior to using it, it will leave...

I cannot imagine very many people would see an APC in maintenance with its cover open and think "ai's malf" first thing. (Tegun's correct, though. It should show on sprite regardless if it's crow-barred or not.) And yet a flipped open APC is already a red flag that something has happened ...

Yulice was right about goof PRs always being exploitable. I really want to throw an assemblybomb at someone and watch them die instantly. I hope gibbing isn’t damage determined and is instead devastation range determined only. It's dev AND damage, assuming the dev explosion could do 200 damage to y...

Most likely this is occurring due to unattended consequences of a testmerged PR. The issue for this is detailed here as well as both related issues and the testmerge that is the culprit: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/65273 In addition, typically when someone disconnects before being ...

Frankly, as sec, I'm happier when a tot hits the comms console to summon in something nastier so we can have some actual action going on. AFKtot is really not a quality improvement over the proactive and interesting contractor it replaced, though rarely did I see contractors anyway. Maybe because th...

Imsxz you have the 4th highest living playtime on the server despite having not played consistently for almost 2 years at this point. Carshallah has only just recently surpassed you for 3rd place, and is very soon going to knock down tlal who also has stopped consistently playing. https://tgstation1...

they were using a temperature gun, not the alternating pistol. 4-5 shots is indeed exactly the amount of shots I aimed for, so it appears to be working as intended.

Learn to engage in a serious discussion without being a cunt, thanks. A good way to do this is to imagine yourself speaking in-person what you've typed - if it makes you sound like a prick, you're probably being one. That was not literally you, sinful, that was the strawman I was propping up for my...

This is what I get for reading the title wrong. But you know what, you can still do something equivalent as a non-antag. Make tritium using this same method and cans of air (you won't make much more than trace amounts). Impress your friends. All you need is a mining pod and a complete disregard for ...

Start fires. Always gets people panicking.

Get some plasma. Grind it into a beaker (1 sheet = 20 units). Toss it into a room with a broken light (it has to have the broken tube in so it sparks) or lit lighter. It'll spill and aerosolize the plasma. Run.

Congrats, on the spot fire.

You got the 'its handled' line because A) admins don't necessarily ban on first offense, so saying if it was or not is irrelevant and notes aren't anything you, the ahelper, should care about because it is only for informing future interactions with the player. B) it might have had good reasoning/mi...

No human authority will not make me play head roles.

The loss of station life and the sudden isolation from others is interesting to me. The paranoia of everyone when things go badly is good roleplay. When the bodies start piling up, resources start running out and people randomly attack one another in a vain hope to not be attacked first is a very di...

It fucking sucks so much ass that they don't go through windows I don't know if this is some intentional thought out balance thing but why would I ever want anything but an energy gun when I can just abuse airlocks and windows to win every fight against these. They're not a strict improvement over ...

don't stress it bee fren, you guys didn't really get a whole lot of experiment suggestions, experisci has been expanded on since then, but the material experiments were the least egregious than some of the experiments, and probably why it wasn't dealt with sooner.

I used to, ironically, be really scared of the undead. I'm not joking. I used to have a reoccurring nightmare as a child about the dead rising up to grab me and drag me under the earth. I think it had to do with the Dead Hand and Redeads from Ocarina of Time. You can probably guess that I've long si...

It's actually a lot closer to the other servers than you think. Just more pretentious.

Craft menu makes anything non-combat viable.

(Or just add do_afters craft menu I know isn't particularly liked for how it works)

Oh oops.

Well in that case I'll say that the appeal tells me a lot about pepperspray but nothing that makes me wanna use it.

Except as a greyshirt that is.

Mothblocks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:36 pm i asked for the mouse thing to be fixed like the days after it was merged but then didn't do anything

It's a line change at this point. I didn't add it myself because I already had folk on my case about cytology balance.

oranges wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:02 pm the video really shows that pepper spray is good meta now.

As in nobody used it?

For all the kneejerk I've been seeing, I've been getting a lot of good feedback as well. Some critical and some in agreement with the change. I'm definitely considering how to meet somewhere in the middle with whatever comes next who really enjoyed the feedback of the firearms they were using. I get...

I watched someone own someone with one in a sparring match against a tot today, and he only had one of the guns. I have to imagine this us down to player error.

My crowning achievement.

the state of projectile damage and balance is completely fucked, we probably need some kind of major overhaul but it will cause so much toxicity that im not really sure I feel up to it. I have an old doc I was pitching to a few maints if you want me to spruce that up again. I think I did it in resp...

cacogen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:08 pm I thought you couldn’t force yourself to sleep anymore anyway

It's a verb in the IC tab.

I didnt have another gun Unfortunate. They come as a pair so you can shoot both. You might have killed it then. Its retarded to have to carry 3 guns to kill a xeno because heaven forbid a crewman crit an enemy without having to sprint to a recharger station mid battle. Meanwhile antags just click t...

terranaut wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:10 pm what a retarded comment
next up: you think healing is annoying/bad? just don't get hit!

Can't die if the person you're fighting can't fight back. So yeah.

i dumped 8 fucking shots point blank into a xenomorph and it just waddled off Did they all hit and what kind of xeno was it? Was it sitting on healing nodes? Xenos are a lot tougher than humans. They all hit and it was in an open hallway with no xenocrap shrug pull out the other gun I guess.

Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:22 am i dumped 8 fucking shots point blank into a xenomorph and it just waddled off

Did they all hit and what kind of xeno was it? Was it sitting on healing nodes? Xenos are a lot tougher than humans.

ye fuck whoever made those things they're shit

We do have a new way in which to balance weapons in the form of wounds. Raw damage isn't necessary if you can use a weapon to cause a wound and hobble an opponent. Not every fight is necessarily to the death (even if people will push for it), and sometimes you're simply wounding someone to humble th...

Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:09 pm What are toolboxes, extinguishers, and thrown floor tiles at right now?

In order: 12 force and throw force, 10 force and throw force, and 10 throw force.

Oh man you were the one to convince the cap to use barber's aid? I walked in while I was doing the cleaning and saw you slinging that shit. I was waiting to see if the cap would cave or not after he spent most of the round bald. I kept telling him as he passed by to just get some carbon to cure the ...

Most of the antistun in the game is usually either reducing stuns by several seconds, or capping stuns to 4 seconds. It doesn't prevent stuns necessarily. The stun reduction stuff is useful for maybe specific situations (or owning people in maintfu) but rhe stun capping items are entirely meaningles...

I was giving an idea for how to maybe give the enemies of the state some more direction. Namely, give them huds for each other (just like the revs), and give them the objective to kill the previous headrevs. That might help with both ensuring the enemies of the state have more focused objectives tha...

The source is called Mime and Dash. You're welcome I guess?

Why would this rule be different from all the other rules that antagonists are exempt from? I don't think it's meant to apply to antags at all. In part, it could in spirit. The way this used to be enforced on antags to counter this being enforced on security, was that admins had free roam to do som...

I've always just pretended like this was a rule anyway I believe it, you've basically been one of the more notable admins when it came to dealing with people acting in extremely bad faith even if it wasn't necessarily an explicit rules break. Personally, I kind of wished more players recognized the...

What the fuck is 'zamn'?

That's not what I said. You absolutely could kill them and keep them dead. What I said was going a step too far was body destruction and permanent round removal, like brain removal and frying. At that point you start running into the exact same problems that got heretics yeeted out of MRP.

As I understand, deliberately keeping someone dead is an inappropriate thing to do on the roleplay rules with the new prog traitor, but that doesn't mean you are entitled to not bothering with hiding your identity. Traitors can get both the cham kit, agent card and infil suit for the purpose of mak...

I can see this getting very messy when a disguised tator kills someone, that someone watches them as a ghost and finds out their identity, gets revived and calls them out, because if the tator ditched the disguise it's going to be a nightmare to look back in the logs and establish "was this du...

Don is on the money here. Part of the point is to incentive slower, more deliberate traitor play--if a traitor eskews anonymization, then they should not be afforded it by the rules. Any changes you are proposing should definitely not be MRP only, as LRP having "20-40 minute average rounds&quo...

The Sybil I visited and played on in 2018-2019 was pretty much the best middleground between a roleplay and a high action traitor server I've come to experience from our ruleset. It was entirely player driven as to how the roleplay came about, and it seemed like a lot of people were kind of onboard....

You don't even need a fucking maxcap for weapons technology, steal a high-capacity tank of welding fuel and detonate it at the range, it has enough strength to get the first 2 explosion experiments The real annoying gatekeep for sec weapons are the anomaly requirements to actually build the guns Th...

Quite literally kieth4's ban is a very good example of a situation where escalating into security being a clusterfuck, and it is extremely unfortunate this thread hasn't been resolved before that situation occurred.

Since you're gonna just copypaste my own words here I wanna state that i find wizard to be obnoxious at best but rare enough that I don't mind it. My points about heretic dont hold as much weight with wizard because there was never any preconceived notion that wizard was either fair or anything but ...

Noted. I'll try to at least get someone to weigh in who has even a smidge of authority. Like that mime.

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