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So let me preface with the note Obssessed with moth milk and made people uncomfortable. [2024-03-23 14:49:59] MediaNocheUwU/(Jemnor) (mob_3402) (Medbay Lobby (158,99,2)) (Event #15) "HELP ME FIND MOTHMILK" No. Rule 8. Get out. As for what happened: This was the log 2024-03-23 14:46:50.945]...

The Manuel Metacord didn't result in blacklists and the appeal was related to inround information being shared, not OOC coordination to "burn out admins". I don't know the full reason why they did this, but my take is similar to Timber's As for why the appeal was trashed, who knows. My the...

Hiding the Axel appeal was a bit weird, especially since timber came out to defend it with “Oh it’s just procedure” and then a while after that we had another blacklist appeal that wasn’t hidden. Axle's blacklist appeal being hidden was an extreme case due to both the nature of the appeal and the e...

The unfortunate thing is that ultimately, not everything is going to go your way.

I think there's a very good point people are ignoring because it comes from the mouth of someone who is regarded by others as an ass - you are never guaranteed sanctity of your character.

Moved topic to our ban appeals, TGMC is a separate server with its own database

Moreover, Scriptis is no longer an admin, admins have been informed

:face: After seeing how shitty people can be to the people that don't actually want an sm delam. People can get very pushy. Luckily most of the time they are an antag that wants chaos and is doing anything they can to get it. Which includes arguing at whoever to try and change their mind. Sadly, tha...

After seeing how shitty people can be to the people that don't actually want an sm delam I'm fully against any "vote for delam" gimmicks unless the player actually ahelps

I was going to say that I personally don't mind server tribalism and I dont think he should have been banned for it, but then I saw some of his RP quality in the peanut. Yeah keep the note. He be bad. If it was just saying Terry Immigrant on its own and nothing else, I think its fine personally. Bu...

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[2024-03-07 23:50:09.846] GAME-SAY: Terraria_Drip_Official/(Maddox Sandford) (mob_3448) ";;3c" (Cargo Lobby (159,155,2))

Quality Manuel RP, Terrynauts can't replicate

also he actually belongs more on Terry by his logic
this guy posted a ASCII trollface in IC say once

The captain should not be discouraged from responding to the call of people screaming for help when someone is trying to kill or kidnapped others, or when they're escaping because of said attempt to kill or kidnap others, I feel that what you're trying to do is just limit the role to delegator inste...

I agree, he should have spammed wizards instead

-snip- I edited the reply above because shoving doctors to do the job the doctors are doing would definitely be RPR 9 in any case. However you bring up a very good point. Invoking RSR 9 in regards to security chasing after a criminal is very difficult because in that case, more is better to apprehe...

If the captain walks in and sees an unattended person and decides to do surgery on him, and does a good job then the doctors should suck eggs if they get angry with him for it. Talk with him if you feel uncomfortable. If the captain keeps treating people incorrectly then you complain about it to the...

Other MRP are a good baseline of what people expect from a MRP server, we don't have to follow them to a tee but they're a good starting point of what is commonly expected from the genre of server. Anyone at any time can edit the wiki, it's open to the public for edits. The only thing that matters ...

The original note in question has been lifted per headmin review. This is now to determine precedent of the captain in RSR4 and RSR9 given the ruling. The ruling didn't even fully affirm or refute RPR 4 applying to the captain. It left this issue in a grey zone of "sometimes" and "de...

The original note in question has been lifted per headmin review.

This is now to determine precedent of the captain in RSR4 and RSR9 given the ruling.

xzero314 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:27 pm Due to our disagreement on this point I would like to ask for a headmin review of this ticket. All points that can be made have been, regarding how the situation played out. As well as this being the major crux of the ticket.

Headmins and Headmin-elects have been informed.

And even if the captain found out the CE's not in danger when she entered the room, what then? Was she supposed to stand around doing nothing as the CE fights off the heretic with his baton? Someone who had already attacked the HoP?

They are not any more security than HoPs are, yet we're constantly dunking on hopcurity but as soon as a captain, who has completely unfettered access to the station and is usually carrying around the nuclear authentication disk gets asked maybe to not hunt down heretics everyone thinks we're overs...

When mindstormy and scriptis gave me a troll ban for not securing the disk and I argued that putting it in the safe was securing it, a code argument was used to show that the disk wasn’t actually secure (since it was in a static position). I don’t see why we can’t use similar code arguments for cap...

And the captain did not step in alone, they stepped in with the CE and a sec officer.

I really don't know why captain players have such an obsession with needing to kill/hunt antags. They are not any more security than HoPs are, yet we're constantly dunking on hopcurity but as soon as a captain, who has completely unfettered access to the station and is usually carrying around the n...

Bmonathan is really digging their heels in on this one holy moly Because they know they're right. There is no actual precedent on captain on RSR 4 AND RSR 9. Whether Captain can't take part in security matters if the station is not in danger has never been debated up to this point, indeed, this is ...

(Yes, it's based on the note appeal) RSR 4 4. Non-security may only actively hunt global or round-ending threats. You should not act like a vigilante if a security force is present unless you have a good in-character roleplay reason to believe a global or round-ending threat exists. Restricted antag...

NINE PARAGRAPHS WHY That's not how paragraphs work. There is maybe three paragraphs total, I just broke them up in the formatting to be a bit easier to read and to separate out the points I'm addressing. Well... Akxhually :geek:, there are indeed 8 paragraphs there but unfortunately some have over ...

I'm sorry, but I have a lot of issues with bmon's response. So the main reason this note was placed is because when we first spoke you seemed to be under the belief that the captain falls under security and therefore is roleplay rule 4 exempt(you can see this in the ticket). That is not true, the ca...

The shift was yellow star.

https://statbus.space/rounds/224825

There are many situations where the captain could step in and fill a void which is left by a lack of security, but in this particular round you had a HoS, warden, detective and security officers, a good chunk of which were already chasing the one heretic you had on very calm green star shift. If yo...

conrad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:46 am NINE PARAGRAPHS

WHY

this is why we need people to read

Timonk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:11 pm I'm sure if Joe Biden asked he would get a gun and armor for self defense. Doesn't mean he can apply in the local police force to hunt for criminals because he's bored on a quiet White House shift

Yeah but the captain is not the president of Nanotrasen, for one.

Also notably, the CE was drunk and blacking out, but was also actively involved in hunting rubs in cargo, and the blackout could have very well screwed him over if Rubs decided to take advantage of that to kidnap him and steal his ID

Logs: The original attack on the HoP [2024-02-29 21:18:45.544] ATTACK: Sheepthulhu/(Rubs-With-Romerol) (mob_3654) cast the spell Mansus Grasp. (Head of Personnel's Office (105,119,4)) [2024-02-29 21:18:46.115] ATTACK: Sheepthulhu/(Rubs-With-Romerol) (mob_3654) attacked Joster730/(Anna Histamine) wit...

Jackraxxus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:47 am I hear his ultimate ability 'conjure ballots' is quite powerful

Holy shit no we are not doing this god fucking damnit

I really don't know what the captain was doing that was wrong, from all that it seems captain worked with security to try to catch a heretic on a quiet shift.

Unbanned, with this note changed. Banned from the server permanently - Gave their password away and asked MSO to blacklist them in discord and forums in an attempt to get blacklisted. Has been unb anned while being told that they should not pull this action again in an attempt to be banned and if th...

aye, i got that part. i just dont get why you made the assumption+distinction of someone else telling him to delete the posts. just came off as a weird thing to say; not sure if i’m supposed to read that as like a negative thing about him or what. or if the supposed assumption is actually subtext f...

He made some charged posts that he deleted after one hour.

This was partially my mistake, when you asked for a blacklist, instead of rejecting it, I should have asked if you wanted a requested perma instead. However, leaking your password for people to grief on in all accounts is really not good optics. This was a completely foolish way to request a permaba...

Since I handled both your bans, I'm considering the evasion ban appeal the first step to the actual permaban.

Evading a permaban isn't great, especially after being ban on such circumstances, but I'm willing to let it slide since I'm also handling your actual permaban anyway.

I'm very sure someone told him to delete those posts he made.

I mean, to be fair, under the current rules, if an officer tells the GROUP that they're going to arrest one one of them and the GROUP interferes, the GROUP gets in trouble over it. I'm not assuming the mob is rational enough to always follow the rules. I did say there is literally no benefit to sil...

Security's job is to arrest lawbreakers, we shouldn't be forcing them to delegate their entire job to admins just because the assistant who punched the captain will seek shelter with an angry mob when they turn up to brig him for 2 minutes. Playing the game shouldn't be a box ticking exercise where...

conrad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:17 pm
Vekter wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:03 pm Because ekaterina is convinced that the admin team has it out for them.
I don't think this is true. I think Ekaterina just thinks they're some sort of unrecognized genius with a masters in Law and a PhD in tg rules interpretation.

So like the last one who had it out for the admin team.

Locking

Offtopic, but the "no admin complaints for events" rule should just be stricken at this point, since it's blatantly clear that it's modern headadmin teams are too much of cowards to just point at it an dclose all event complaints no matter what. a recipe for ensuring the admin team is ful...

3 days has passed, you should be unbanned now.
If there's nothing else to discuss this will be closed within a day.

i will say that there was talking on comms about the ai getting asimoved as the inspectors first arrived The AI was definitely ioned with a law beforehand, but it was apparently reverted to asimov before the incident. [2024-02-20 03:00:19.454] Starting up round ID 224279. - ------------------------...

The issue is why Vex wanted to kill the AI at this point This conversation is relevant. AI was asimov and Vex made reference to "that" [2024-02-20 04:47:19.675] GAME-SAY: Thedragmeme/(Vex Petunia-Licht) (mob_4564) "Do that again, Ai, and I will rip out your wires one by one to strengt...

this is goofball erasure

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