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TehSteveo

Nerfing the damage on the pellets isn't bad. Just not over nerfing to where it's back to just getting slugs as buckshot isn't worth it. It should be somewhere in the realm that buck shot is good, but slugs are also more useful again.

TehSteveo

Apologies. As I have a migraine so my comprehension isn't the best at the moment. Still after getting these drone law debates we're not going to change drone laws to allow drones to play with a camera to interact with shit. It's another case of IGNORE IT if you want to play drone. By the way a chang...

TehSteveo

Why is it that drone laws are always confusing for people? The OP's version of drone laws are incorrect and interruption is incorrect. Default drone laws: "1. You may not involve yourself in the matters of another being, even if such matters conflict with Law Two or Law Three, unless the other ...

TehSteveo

Give atmospheric technicians access to engine 2017 so they can hold the baby engineers hands.

TehSteveo

Well, this is pretty much resolved.

TehSteveo

sounds to me like cedar may have been mislead by cobby's use of the IC Issue button? hard to give full blame to them in that case but i might be misreading something here That's pretty much what my posts said in regards to this as a trial is expected to make errors; gameadmins are meant to help and...

TehSteveo

I have given the offending player a note and a message that will appear upon the next time they log into the server. My response to this thread should be enough to say that it wasn't handled correctly, that it should have been looked into further, and the admins on at the time should have discussed ...

TehSteveo

Thing is Cobby, you kinda set the precedent for the Cedarbridge not to pursue it by intervening then saying you're going to leave it as he was being cloned. Cedar then looks at the logs and decides that it was valid due gouty starting the fight; which was not corrected by any the senior admins onlin...

TehSteveo

It could at least warrant a talking to the party for jumping straight to murder and explain escalation in that they shouldn't went straight to killing but rather disarmed back; with a possible note of the situation and explanation they were talked with. Ban isn't necessarily needed due to security a...

TehSteveo

imblyings wrote:how badly would the game crash if all clothes were removed, then have clothes be re-added in chunks

While I wouldn't care much; I know a lot people are attached to the different clothing. They'll panic.

TehSteveo

Extending bans due to appeals does set a bad precedent; which is why I lifted Oldman's ban early due to the extension. I made clear when I responded that it didn't mean they were right; just that the extension wasn't the greatest. As far as extension to bans when someone appeals; they should relativ...

TehSteveo

To be fair; this was a dayban so it really did not need a headmin to intervene upon. I will add that taking the armory as a non-antagonist is a grey area. Sure, you can do it but all it results in you taking a punishment. Using the weapons as a non-antagonist without a good reason will generally res...

TehSteveo

Kind of a siderail, but why are EUmins/non-US mins so rare as to be worth noting as being particularly desired? From what I've seen from chatting to people the servers have a decent EU playerbase, and laws of statistics would dictate that atleast some of these people are un-shit enough to get trial...

TehSteveo

STOP!

TehSteveo

This will be interesting. Also in before complaints about sprites.

TehSteveo

They had a thread from a long time ago.

TehSteveo

Can never be freeeee.

TehSteveo

Shaps is back.

TehSteveo

Upon suggestion of the Admintrainers both Cedarbridge and Dannno have been added to the .txt as trialmins.

TehSteveo

Anyone hear that buzzing sound? Sounds like a dumb bee.

TehSteveo

Exactly, turn them away for negative history and so on, not just because they dared to ask. I guess that hearing an admin trainer literally say "a player asking for admin unprovoked is usually a red flag" really grinds my gears Because most people who ask have negative history or no histo...

TehSteveo

>it's a volunteer job but if you volunteer that's a red flag What's the logic behind this? Kind of like filling out an application to volunteer for most anything in life. I guess logic for that is dumb too as they can deny application based upon negative history, lack of experience, or other circum...

TehSteveo

I'm locking this as everything that's been said has been said in terms of policy. Everything being discussed is either going on about the admin's actions or the fact that the rules are not going to be changed to make greentext protected from intervention. If Reondin wants to make an admin complaint ...

TehSteveo

Smells like an admin complaint. Is this an admin complaint in policy discussion? As I can already tell you nobody is going to change rules to make people's greentext sacred.

TehSteveo

Well, being as nothing more came of this I'm closing this.

TehSteveo

1. You were not banned nor was this noted. It was left as an admin message which is something left for you to see once. Not sure if he meant to leave a note or not but the end result is there is no note. 2. Renaming the station to something dumb generally isn't noteworthy unless someone is trying to...

TehSteveo

It's been two months since STP was brought back to the team. So, TG how did they do?

TehSteveo

Both parties are pretty bad at communication here in all honestly. I'll probably talk with Kevinz about communication and tunnel vision on a specific issue, but the vague answers and accusations from Icepacks don't help matters either. Other than that, seeing the appeal got resolved there isn't much...

TehSteveo

So I reviewed the logs relevant to this and frankly ForcefulCJS is in the wrong. The miner who launched the shuttle did give warning and when looking at logs the shuttle was launched within the timeframe of when the warning was given. Obviously, both you and the second miner failed to see the warnin...

TehSteveo

I think a "tidy up" happened, I was in adminbus and admin forum for awhile now, even after i've gone AWOL. But now I seemed to be removed. Also Qbopper, the thing is these days trail mins are treated as if they are already full admins. I can remember when trails couldn't actively trial if...

TehSteveo

That's the order in the wiki, that's where I got it from. As per cedar, I had assumed that since station equipment was higher up in priority, it was considered more expensive than crew. I was wrong, since I based my assumptions off the wiki (and a discussion that I saw in another server) Wiki is aw...

TehSteveo

PKPenguin321 and Owegno have been promoted to Admintrainer.

TehSteveo

That's the order in the wiki, that's where I got it from. As per cedar, I had assumed that since station equipment was higher up in priority, it was considered more expensive than crew. I was wrong, since I based my assumptions off the wiki (and a discussion that I saw in another server) Wiki is aw...

TehSteveo

Law 1: You are expensive to replace. Law 2: The station and its equipment is expensive to replace. Law 3: The crew is expensive to replace. Law 4: Minimize expenses Look at the order of laws. If you had read the silicon policy then you'd understand the ones higher up get more priority. Unless they ...

TehSteveo

I want my salt and a natural round end from my effective sec gameplay, not a low effort admin event because of ADHD dead players that don't understand dying is part of the game and next time don't die. Then git gud and end the round instead of making half the server sit through an hour-long round w...

TehSteveo

Has been resurrected as a trialadmin; so bump.

TehSteveo

Exalted12 has been brought back to the team as a trialmin.

Duncdar as decided to step down from the team. They are welcomed to come back in the future once more.

TehSteveo

Honestly, I don't find this really actionable for what occurred as a round was floundering on and the admin got permission from the last antagonist. Buttons were pushed and likely most people didn't mind it. Yes, getting killed by a gimmick shuttle sucks but curtailing admins from trying to run occa...

TehSteveo

geilebeer wrote:also, the forums have always been awful, will never change

This is true.

TehSteveo

Should the AI prevent the Captain if they were dumb enough to announce a law change to paladin/corporate specifically. Yes, they can. Must. I don't think so. Why? Corporate may allow harm, but it doesn't make the AI a personal security/command slave that lets them be shit as they can still interject...

TehSteveo

Never forget.

TehSteveo

To be fair, it isn't so much Qbopper's fault as it is the fault as it is due to a warning should have likely been issued with said watchlist. Qbopper is only doing as they were taught which is to take into consideration notes/watchlists with the current action before deciding an action to take. In a...

TehSteveo

I hate that just because a ban is about to run out anyways it's suddenly okay to let it stick even though the appeal is valid and passable. If this appeal was deemed valid and his actions not truly ban-worthy, just unban him and remove this from his record. Half of the reason to even appeal a ban i...

TehSteveo

Yes, behavior should have been discussed before hand, but as of now I'm going to say let this ban serve as the official warning in regards to it. The point is now to change certain behaviors; such as breaking into the armory as a non-antagonist so you can go kill PvE bosses on lavaland better for yo...

TehSteveo

So, this one is a special case as Mimicfaux was demoted from Gameadmin to trialmin due to abusing admin buttons which was handled internally when it was caught. Right now, what we want to know is how well they have done since their demotion; whether or not we should promote them once more or should ...

TehSteveo

I spent likely over an hour looking at logs, matching up both say and attack with one another, and discussing this over with Lzimann. Your logic is flimsy in plenty of areas, you ignore parts and only attach to certain others that add some context to what happened. Telling me I'm wrong isn't going t...

TehSteveo

Firstly, the actions of helping yourself to someone's belongings in a search is some the most basic of shitcurity behavior; behavior which I'm willing to bet the detective took your 'reward' for yourself because of that, which isn't really the best way to go about it obviously. After the pen inciden...

TehSteveo

>Investigate random griff.
>Someone was put into crit due to griff.
>Bojangles the monkey disposals one the people in critical from the griff

10/10

TehSteveo

Somehow I must have hit the wrong ban type while handling multiple things. Even though I'm pretty sure I was using the jobban panel so I'm not sure if some edge case happened when you suicided to play drone or what. I apologize and have lifted that wrong ban but will be applying the correct drone b...

TehSteveo

There was several things going on with this one. Firstly, there was a conflict of interest being that at the time Bgobandit responded to the adminhelp they were also playing in which they ended up being sharded themselves and was a construct at the time. They should have deadminned as soon as they w...

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