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We have no intention of overturning this.

Minimum requirement for command roles includes actually being present to engage in playing those roles, immediately leaving the station is functionally identical to a player going afk or logging out at roundstart, and is easily covered by the same precedents.

In general we agree that Asimov silicons taking action against human traitors with no law-derived motive to be rather lame. To reduce the degree to which this occurs, we have agreed that Asimov silicons that take action against non-harmful human traitors (I.E. those who are committing minor crimes l...

We've deliberated on this and decided on the following addendum to the escalation rules: "Conflict is automatically suspended when one participant is dead or incapacitated, a player who uses the state of incapacitation to take further action against the downed party chooses to extend the ongoin...

The base purpose of the "unless they are willing" clause of Asimov++ is to serve as an in-universe explanation for the previously fiated prohibition against the use of self-harm to compel Asimov AIs under law 1, and the understanding that AIs should not prohibit human players from doing th...

Dopa has decided to discontinue their trial.

Dopamiin has chosen to discontinue their trial.

We've looked over the provided logs for this appeal and while we generally agree with the sentiment that with the benefit of hindsight it would have been better for you to ahelp the borg such that their lawbreaking could have been resolved OOCly, their behaviour is well within the realm that a norma...

We don't see much benefit in instituting difficult to enforce metaprotections on ghost role spawner items. A code side solution by tying high value spawns such as the seed vault gatfruit seeds or the ashwalker's combat disk to the activation of their respective spawners would be fine if the codebase...

While security officers should take basic steps to ensure that the environment they are dropping prisoners into is at all survivable (on the scale of megafauna or complete destruction, not broken windows), we do not believe that security officers making legitimate usage of the gulag to punish wrongd...

After some discussion, we agree that given the round-ending nature of final objectives, traitors who complete them should be free to take actions to bring the round to a conclusion as they see fit, and may therefore act as unrestricted antagonists after they have completed their final objective (sim...

Upon review of this ban, we have decided not to overturn the applied ban-note (as the ban itself has already expired at this stage). While we do think it is un-ideal for an a ban-baiting rule 1 ban to be applied in-absentia , upon review of the circumstances leading up to the ban, as well as the tex...

AIs are free to request other players assist them in acquiring shells or cyborgs, but should remain conscious of RPR 10 - asking someone to make use of an empty robotics lab to construct silicons is entirely reasonable, bypassing active roboticists to let someone else into their workspace because th...

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We don't see reason to specifically update the current prohibitions on powergaming and playing to win to specifically reference this case, given that rule 12 and the RP rules already cover this kind of gameplay. On MRP: Escalation to lethal weaponry by security without a specific in character reason...

This is indeed a case of policy lagging behind game development, the AI core can be used to subvert an AI by hitting it with a law board, and as such it has (generally) defacto held the same protections as the upload for a while. Policy will be updated to reflect this.

We don't feel the need for a sweeping rework of security policy, the note that prompted this thread has since been overturned, and you haven't posted any other specific desires or direction for discussion to work off here. Maintainer opinion is always appreciated and taken into account when developi...

Noahyoshi has been promoted to Trial Admin.

I've edited in the verbatim ban reason from TGDB, since the paraphrased ban reason was causing some confusion - no comment on this appeal as of yet, I'll let Drag have a look at it first.

Ayamepup has been promoted to a full game admin!

Promoted

Pandarsenic has been promoted to a full game admin!

Promoted!

Nutimov has been removed from the weighted list for the experimental AI lawset station trait, we bonk players for explicitly validhunty lawsets FNR, it shouldn't be in the config

Dopamiin has been promoted from admin candidate to Trial Admin!

Timberpoes has been demoted to Gamemaster after too much Timberposting.
Spookuni has been promoted to HeadAdmin.

I said if you came back with a good vouch in a year I'd unban you - and by all accounts you have an excellent vouch, server ban is already removed, have fun.

Glad to see you've learned from the mistakes that led up to this, I'm happy to be confident nothing of its like will happen again.

Ayame has been on the .txt as a TA for roughly two months now. This thread is for public review of how they've been going, pending potential promotion to full game admin. As always, this is a time where players are encouraged to offer feedback and comment on how they think they've been going, and wh...

Smithers has been on the .txt as a TA for roughly two months now. This thread is for public review of how they've been going, pending potential promotion to full game admin. As always, this is a time where players are encouraged to offer feedback and comment on how they think they've been going, and...

pacifism bans will be the hot thing for a week until some shitter realizes they can just release plasma or space the station to get around it and then nobody will ever use them again The fact that you can get job changes from the HoP to evade job bans and (if caught) have them escalated to a server...

My bet’s on Riggle, Wesoda would be good too but I think they might run away and escape if selected.
Edit: San would be pretty good too.

I'm a freakin' hardass on bans and notes internally too. Very outspoken in discussions on how to approach banning players, drafting good notes and ban reasons, interpretation of policy and in getting things just right the first time. Hooo boy, I've had a great many clashes with admins over that, an...

Shit, sinfullbliss agreed with me. Quick, pack it up. The experiment is concluded. I am now removing antagonists from MRP and making antagonism permabannable. (I'll be pushing this forward to the headmin team in the coming days to be mired in 3 months of red tape, I am eternally grateful for everyo...

They're alright

5. Malf AI is no longer restricted to speedrunning delta and may cause death and destruction at any time. Malf AI goes brrrrrr. Utter agony. NGL, I'm anticipating a new renaissance of dislike of Malf AI incoming - it's a gear check antag being run on a server where people aren't really allowed to g...

I had some concerns at the time of the original review, but after the extra time most of the rough edges I've seen have smooth and Drag has really come into their own as an extremely dedicated admin.

Preemptive grats on the incoming purple (I would hope).

Manuel's murderboning rules make specific reference to players attempting (or appearing to attempt) to subvert them by actively manufacturing circumstances where they can kill people to consistently maximise their bodycount - taking a flimsy kill occasionally is fine and is part of the game and a na...

I dont mind sec being antag-protected I just am not keen on the obvious problems associated with heads getting the same protection and as you mentioned is even easier to larp as. Even more frustrating is that it feels glossed over in the conversation. I haven't really been saying much, since for th...

I've raised this proposal a couple times in admin channels, and it's generally approved of there, so I'm gonna post it out here to get more feedback on what the wider Manuel audience thinks of it. Manuel's been having consistent issues for months centred around low energy rounds where nothing really...

Well you see spook, this requires knowledge of the pipe network which frankly only atmospheric technicians reliably have, as most of the crew barely realizes it exists until either A. Someone starts ventcrawling, or B. someone starts using the network to flood funny gasses. And even if they're awar...

It's boring as hell, but also countered by any enterprising crewmember with a crowbar and a wrench. (crowbar up floortiles and then dismantle atmos around where you know the ling is from the EMP screech locations, shrink net until ling has nowhere to go, they can't even leave the pipe network if you...

My thoughts irrespective of how the talking points here are numbered: 1. We don't need more people playing psuedo-security. Being role protected opens a can of worms on what responsibilities are and how they're managed. Being role protected and responsible for keeping the station together as a head...

I made a thread about this last headmin term and never received a strict answer as it faded into autolock territory, and current experience makes me believe it's still a point worth pursuing so here we go again. I believe it would be overall beneficial for the MRP servers at least for the station he...

On rereading my wording in the ticket and considering my defence of my call regarding this, I've decided that I communicated my actual problem with the original actions in round of the player I spoke to extremely poorly, and have been personally conflating my opinion regarding this ... oversight? Wi...

Is this LRP or MRP you are referring to? On LRP infrastructure is fixed by the crew because they have no limits on where and what they can do. MRP has 'stay in your lane' preventing them from fixing the issues caused by antags. Maybe relax the 'stay in your lane' rules on low pop for Manuel instead...

To borrow your own comparison from the Manuel discord, I see this interaction as less similar to an antagonist buying soap to clean up the evidence of their crimes, and closer to an antagonist finding out that if they perform a specific set of actions with an esword prior to using it, it will leave...

Covering your tracks as an antagonist is not powergaming. While I agree in principle, my primary issue with this (coupled with what it was being used to accomplish) is and was that it it appears to be an unintended interaction being used to benefit the antagonist player at the expense of everyone e...

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