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Hibbles

The conspiracy is real.

On to why I'm making this post:

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So sabbat, is Sticky right in his (perhaps unkind) characterization of what you actually want as "I know this was addressed but I want more punishment for X"? I'm hungry and tired so forgive me if I missed some of the intricacies, all I see is people locked in mortal combat over gay spacem...

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I don't know if we could communicate this better to users since the point keeps getting lost, but these sorts of bans are to make you come explain on the forums. Like, as soon as you can. It's not a 'stay away for a while and learn your lesson young man' thing. It's not actually a punishment at all,...

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Because then it raises the specter of Remember What Happened Last Time We Had A Mass Election. Because that's sure how a logic works.

So, basically, there's no reason not to.

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I didn't bring this up to get anyone penalized, I pointed it out because of how toxic the defensive response by the administrators and coders who were present was, which seems to be par for the course these days. You're a major reason for the toxicity, Tunder, and you have been for an astounding le...

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You mean that ban which was lifted (as in, ruled invalid by the administration) within a single day of the appeal being made, six months ago? One of the things that always struck me about TG is how well the oversight works, especially if we're grading on a curve. When admins fuck up, guess what happ...

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I'm actually in the cool kids' club and I see him sound off on things. Very occasionally. But decisions do get made of the 'yeah do it' or 'no' or 'that's dumb' tier with him involved.

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Whom?

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I'm curious, why was the decision made to give Sly the ultimate revenge setting on his character? Like, we've established that it happened and Techno has apologized, but why in the first place? EDIT : Also to address your more general issue with administration, yes, if you flip out and lose your shi...

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Since I haven't seen this brought up at any place in the thread and actually just learned about it myself like, late yesterday, I think it's also important to bring up that Terbs encouraged somebody in our community who was suicidal to kill themselves multiple times, right? Like, that was a thing? I...

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True, and normally we allow/encourage/tell drones to retreat from other beings if they're ever in doubt about what Interference means.

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The entirety of what you need to know about drones: If you're going to fuck over any other actual player (who's not a drone) by doing x, don't do x.

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Go for it, Vekter. If even half the stuff in this thread is true, this person probably shouldn't be doing the Captain thing.

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My own opinion is that it should be more about 'does this person deserve death?' than 'does this execution have authorization?' because with the latter, we might end up protecting people who deserve to get fucked, and punishing people just doing that to them. And yet at the same time, how can we enc...

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People have disliked Paladin for a long time because of how open-ended it can be, right? So, there's different interpretations. However, doesn't that mean that if somebody griefs 'using' Paladin, then that reflects on them and what they wanted to do the whole time? The short and bitter of this case ...

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If an Asimov AI tries to build 1x1 cages to keep the crew in, because if they're like that they're way more safe than running around and interacting, then we tell them to stop because that's dumb and bad and wrong and stupid. If an Asimov AI bolts and depowers the Armory or Toxins at roundstart and ...

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It's an understandable confusion. When the emergency shuttle arrives at CentCom and the end-of-round crawl appears, saying who was a traitor and whatever, that's when it's fine to mess about until the next round. Thanks for coming onto the forums to explain, the ban has been lifted.

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I like the idea of the two-tiered system; in the vendor, locked away by coin or whatever, is some shitty but thematic gear so the clown can run around as Biggus Dickus and demand tribute or something... and when the time comes for real Space Rome events, I can outfit legionaries with stuff that can ...

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>A victim is no longer a victim Admin PM from-Tsaricide: He gets a warning and if he does it in the future he will recieve a harsher punishment If Tsar didn't consider this worth admin action, he wouldn't have issued a warning or marked the person to get wrecked if he did it again. He's actually on...

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Yeah.

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OP updated, hbl.ogg intensifies.

OOC: ThatSlyFox: you disgust me
OOC: Bgobandit: I want a fucking bagel
OOC: Mastigos: Who cares HBL always leaves mid-event and makes other admins deal with it and inevitably ruin everything :^)

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We don't have a one-click thing for that, but there isn't anything stopping us from hopping on the other one and posting one of those admin notices that gets displayed to new-joiners.

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Breaking #adminbus leak under the cut. [15:10] <hotelbravolima> Also Shroom brought up a point, Basil already gets almost no admins, and almost no admin fun at all. [15:10] <hotelbravolima> If Sibyl's getting 'too much' (which we all aren't agreed about Sticky) and Basil's not getting much [15:10] <...

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I'm posting here to show I'm not ignoring your topic, Oldman, even though I don't particularly agree with some of what you say, I think it's hyperbole, and I think you're exaggerating. I'm not on a ton anymore so maybe I don't have the perspective you do, so it's just IMO. One part I do obviously ag...

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I motion to call server 2 Bagil as an amalgam term, and that we keep changing the name every so often due to in-jokes and stuff people won't get unless they were there.

Also, agreed, I wasn't even aware the names were still reversed. Sounds like a five second fix from MSO.

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I'm normally a big fan of shuttle calls at basically any time, so muh bias, but I totally agree. Barring an avalanche of 'admins pls stop this guy from shuttle-spamming us' from people who legitimately haven't had enough SS13 yet, we (admins) shouldn't send it back.

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This is why all auhority is shit. You are all biased and incompetent. No man is fit to lead their fellow man. Had this issue been settled democratically, none of this drama would have occured. Please don't shitpost on a thread that is ostensibly about serious business. If you took this kind of crap...

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OOC: ThatSlyFox: Why does everything HBL touch end like this ADMIN LOG: Explosion with size (2, 5, 11, 11) in area Space (86,145,1) OOC: ThatSlyFox: WHY HBL ADMIN LOG: Explosion with size (2, 5, 11, 11) in area Space (86,145,1) ADMIN LOG: Explosion with size (2, 5, 11, 11) in area Space (86,145,1) ...

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I hate this idea on a personal and admin level. We're trying to encourage people to kill each other LESS when there's not a compelling reason, and as others have said, nobody but the HoS, Warden, or Security Officers will have a single way to subdue a person that doesn't also end their life . Unless...

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On a 'my opinion' level? Then yeah, bad form, old boy. But I also totally understand why you just fuck off and don't help most of the time, and I've even done that in the past. On an admin level, enforcing somebody actively helping their team, in a wildfire conversion roundtype like this, isn't poss...

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I've given my own input already, so unless another headmin/gay master(are any even active?) wants to say something, I'll close this as resolved in 24 hours from now. It seems like everyone but you is in general agreement, omni. Until then, anybody is free to pitch in with their input regarding this ...

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So let's see, this policy would be difficult to log or enforce by administration. It would be very difficult for AI or borgs to determine on which side of the 'you will be banned line' they are. Taking away the humanity of fully-auged people serves precisely no positive function or purpose for the r...

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I'm also certain that when I spoke to the AI about this, he admitted looking for loopholes to exploit which shows his own bad intent. I know loophole abuse is a staple of AI play (as I've done it myself in the past) so thought a warning and a note were sufficient to get the point across that this wa...

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This thread has now become " Admins: Post what songs you play in what situations: The thread ". And I have things I try to do from time to time. Start of round : Red Dwarf theme Nuke Ops confirmed : Smooth Criminal Delta Alert : Final Countdown ofc Singulo release : Supermassive Black Hole...

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You doubtless posted those PM logs to convince people Tsar is out to get you but the only thing I saw in them is a ton of you having a problem with him and him contacting you for legit admin reasons and behaving himself professionally. Random example : PM to-Admins: Well they stole my shit, shuttle ...

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Alrighty, it should be removed now, sorry for the wait.

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Alright, this doesn't seem like much to get worked over in the grand scheme of things, so I'm happy to lift this . However, in the future, please don't pick fights with Security or the Heads without a really good reason. It's not a good idea, and it's not what Mime/Clown/Assistant whatever is for, r...

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It's not that you left mid-conversation, it's that you left and I wasn't able to talk to you when I wanted to talk to you about something else, so le temporary ban was applied. I'd like to hear what happened that round between you and Security, in as much detail as you can recall. We had us some pre...

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Go for it, it could be like our test thing. If you need a thread about it stickied or whatever I could do that. Also regarding what we say about it, I'm not sure that's an issue. Either we really do just go 'SOMETHING SPECIAL is gonna happen tonight at 8pm est!' which I guarantee will fill them play...

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Do you, even for a moment, expect any admin person to take this thread seriously when you go on like that? Either you don't really want to get unbanned, in which case this is a total waste of your time, or you actually would like another shot, and should consider things like the way you're coming ac...

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While Skor has intervened in this sort of IC sentencing issue in the past to stop shitty Security stuff rather than letting it go... in this situation, it's also understandable why he'd instead just let it go. We're always going to handle cases on a case-by-case basis as much as possible, taking int...

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I've decided to re-purpose this thread as my official announcement/feedback/ideas/requests/scheduling thing for my events, in order to provide a more normalized, regimented, and fascistic Hitler-esque Sticky-like approach to administrating . ========================================= I will be runni...

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Say that to my face as I run laps around you with endless stimulant, heal wounds slowly but surely with toxic comp/filter, manifest random superpowers (okay that one's helpfulness is debatable at best) and heal my eye damage as well as any other, actually harmful, diseases I may contract. Within ha...

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HELP: Iteq/(Iteq) (?) (PP) (VV) (SM) (JMP) (CA) : fuck you gel you race traitor

Reply PM from-XX/(XX): George zimmerman did it and walked. I would walk too.

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I've talked it over with the others in adminbuse. There's no real way to tell whether you're lying or not. I dunno, I'd rather assume good faith. Please don't have any more similar incidents of forgetfulness.

Ban lifted.

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I've grown a fondness for the turbine and the transit tubes, so one bleak early morning on Badger with literally six people on total , I decide to play a round. The game selects me for the round's traitor, but I pay very little mind to that, and go about trying to start the turbine (which was broken...

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And also in the interest of full disclosure, were some of those rounds on another ckey Security rounds? This won't automatically mean ding dong end of rine but it is uh, concerning as you know.

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What I say now, I say purely as a player and not an admin. You were That One Guy that round for Sec, myself included. So I'm the Warden and there's no HoS, so I'm the HoS without the coat or the access. So I hears some stuff on the radio about Re'search spwnin sh'it and ask the officers to go in, as...

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I'm almost certain your cameras can be set to display sechud or medhud icons and stuff and thus you can see health bars as an AI. Unless that was removed?

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Always liked Sticky as a person which is why I feel bad that I ended up shitting on them. I hope there's no hard feelings since Sticky's also really good at ERP. And tbh professionalism is a good thing but being a human being is also fantastic given the literal years that adminbus was 'that place fu...

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