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This situation is very dumb. Tonto go remake your appeal in a serious manner (visible text, an actual reason why you should be unbanned instead of a joke suggestion) As for everyone else involved; take this as a lesson on why you should treat all complaints and appeals seriously. Don't just brush it...

The current policy is fine. People can break the egg and people can kill people who do it against the will of captain and/or RD.

I'm not sure why this was left open when he has been deadminned.

Denied. Go find another community to play with and maybe take this as a life lesson on how your actions can have long term consequences for you. Everyone here hates you now and I don't see you ever being unbanned.

This is not a valid complaint. Admins are not omnipotent and being wrong isn't a black mark on them.

Alright, I am attempting to enforce this rule too strongly then. Given that this player has no prior history of this kind of thing what's a more accurate punishment here? From how much everyone seems to disagree with my choice here I suspect the answer is going to be "lift it and amend the not...

You may have a personal zero tolerance policy but last I checked this server doesn't. Please give me an example of precedent for this sudden shift in policy Nabski because it looks like you're making up your own rules.

I checked with Paradise and you were correct I think. They say you played there for two weeks in July 2017 (which is after you were told to go play on another server) and only had a few minor notes for stripping a disconnected player and minor self antagging. I'll leave it up to the headmins to inte...

Alrighty, I can try and check with them. Do you know which account of yours you used?

mysteryman sideburns wrote:For what it's worth I did do the thing where I get an admin from another server to vouch for me and was ignored.

Could you tell us which server(s) you played on? Even if you were ignored we can hopefully go to that server and ask for your history there.

I'll lift the ban, its been long enough. Please don't do this sort of thing a third time.

Pay me 55$ an hour and I will act professional everywhere on the internet. Otherwise I'm just going to act normal elsewhere because this isn't a job.

Having different rule enforcement for different servers didn't work in the past on post hub Basil, its not going to do anything here. If the players on Terry already play with more sportsmanship than other servers good on them then, there is no need to enforce the rules differently just because they...

If you decide a round needs to end after a certain time you are a terrible admin and I support deadminning you immediately. Your job is to be a GM and not just an admin. So use those GM skills to return players who are dead to the round instead of deciding that because the round length has passed an...

Are you sure that 87938 is the correct round ID? 87924 appears to have the things you talked about. Anyway I'd post some logs but I have to head out in a few minutes. I'll post them when I return if nobody else does.

I just mirrored Ausops ban when I saw that you had evaded his ban. As such this is their appeal to handle.

It's been more than long enough. You're unbanned.

I played at my old apt a lot that should be logged on my account as well. either which way It wasn't me that committed the offence. I could just proxy in but I don't want my account getting a "ban evasion" ban. that's why I'm posting here to get what's lifted on this IP or just moved onto...

So you only played SS13 at your uncles house? I'm pretty sure that you are lying and I will be frank, its a lot easier to get unbanned if you just tell the truth and at least feign regret. But who knows maybe the person who got banned did just happen to live in your uncles basement for awhile. I'm p...

Are you sure that you just moved to this place because the IP that you share with the recipient of this ban (losttom) was first used by you to connect in late September 2016.

Yes. Well, he went hard crit, that was when he noticed tomatoes were lethal and that's why bwoinked me. Unless things changed in the last few months, admins aren't allowed to handle problems relating to their own character in game if they are playing while adminned. What makes you sure it was him? ...

It's pretty fucking nuts that I'm the one who removed all the rules security players said made the job impossible (like having to get permission to execute) and pushed heavily for years to give security a ton of leeway in team/conversion modes and I'm still being told I have "sick mindset"...

Too bad? I don't see why megafauna on the station has to be a round ending occurrence. If people have gotten better at countering them since I lasted played good on them. We don't need to reward players even more for dragging megagfauna onto the station.

People who drag megafauna onto the station die 99% of the time. The reward they get for their death is that they likely caused a shuttle call unless a highly competent miner can kill it or the AI locks it down. Rewarding them with a chance to play the magafauna they dragged onto the station is dumb.

Vekter wrote:It's not his ckey, it's his hardware ID. A shitload of players share that CID for some reason. I'd love to know why, if anyone knows.

Last I knew everyone on a CID like that has a pirated version of windows. There are a few others like that.

Admins knew bout this shit for ages only acted when Joan not head min so shrug I dunno about admins in general but I found out about this on something like the 18th of August and told Ausops about it. They didn't know what do about it so I figured I would make a complaint once the new headmins came...

What made you suspicious of Joan making themselves into an antagonist to begin with? Are there any major events you can point to, or a single major event that roused your suspicion? I was tipped off by a player that Joan was abusing their powers. And what information did you use to deduce what days...

Byond account and character name: Owegno - Doesn't matter Admin: ChangelingRain/Joan Time and Server(Bagil or Sybil) incident occurred: Sybil, 08/06/2017. Round ID's: 74317, 74320 and 74341 This is pretty simple. I decided to look at the admin logs of a day that Joan had a bunch of connections on as...

I saw 2 people in deadchat saying you had done it before which gave the assumption it was more than a one time thing. I guess I could of asked them when it was and checked but they didn't ahelp so I didn't care to ask. I'll just remove it and keep it in a text file I use to keep track of singular in...

IC in OOC is (an attempt at) cheating. Someone telling people to vote for them has no effect on the game.

Alright. I'll lift the ban.

I'd be fine with unbanning you however I would like to know what exactly your deal with Keekenox is seeing as both of you were on the watchlist for potential metacommunication.

Sure, I'll do that for now.

I would personally be fine with an ahelp ban since this is based around their use of ahelp and not in-game conduct. However unless I checked wrong ahelp bans were never merged so I am unsure what to do.

Here are the logs for both ahelps. (I left out the third one with the chaplain since he just told me he saw Sheryl beating Dick.) Hunterh98: [01:25:14]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Hunterh98/(Dick Butticus)->Owegno/(Andrei Kuznetsov): And now he bolted me in perma. [01:25:19]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Hunterh98/(Dick Bu...

Alright. Well I did look at the logs and it did seem that you didn't want them cloned from what you said. I will probably edit the note a little later to better reflect the ambiguity of how you wanted to stop them from being cloned.

I'm a little confused. Did you drag the corpse into space trying to space it or just running from the borg trying to stop human harm.

It's not natural escalation to jump straight to spacing the person after you win a fight. If they continued the fight after getting revived sure but straight up spacing them is too much. Up until the attempted spacing part the escalation was fine.

No because whatever ghosting does is irrelevant. The game should not put you in the situation of "should I wait for 5 more minutes and continue to play?" or "should I just succumb and watch?" because people often choose the first one over and over and over. It should make that d...

I personally find N2O internals to be insanely useful (and required if halfway they're competent) against a changeling if you want to debrain them, and useful in medbay for detaining people. Also useful for antagery if you want someone alive for some reason. Anyway, is there an eventual resolution t...

I'll straight up lift the ban on you seeing as your history is clean and everyone makes mistakes at least a few times.

Or you could just make it so ghosting kills your body so people can ghost out if they are not enjoying some antags BDSM RP or are placed under N2O but still want a chance to come back and get revenge on their killer.

The Trump stuff got really dull after Donald Trump captain #2 so I would be in favor of a blanket ban against famous real world people.

Another precedent we've had to the best of my knowledge is that breaking into a deptartment offers you up to the department's services so I don't see an issue with borging. This applies to them breaking in again being thrown out. Not for the first break-in. You may defend your workplace from trespa...

I'd be alright with reducing this to a week ban or something similar since you don't have any prior history for metacomms or any related issues. I'll reduce this tomorrow unless anyone objects. I'd also like to ask you to be better about escalation from here on out since you have a lot of notes for ...

J_Madison wrote:That ban was actually successfully appealed as shown by ausops' final post.

This is a completely different ban appeal.

I wouldn't consider it successfully appealed. I'm honestly a bit confused where that notion came from. I guess I should of made it clearer I wanted headmin input, and I got it.

If Ausops and Joan decided the ban should stay that's fine with me. It was such a bizarre situation that I really didn't know how to handle it and I honestly wanted input from the headmins. I was going to lift the ban (On you, the others should make their own appeals) if no headmin told me to leave ...

Pretty much my opinion on it Kor. My big concern was the raid on citadel that I have been assured was not what I thought it was going to be. I'm perfectly fine with lifting the bans because of this.

Feel I should just add I was planning on unbanning the group tomorrow after more admins weighed in but if you feel the ban should stick PKP it will stick. I mainly placed this ban since people didn't seem to be taking my message of "Don't raid another server" seriously.

I expected you to listen and cut it out. I see humor in it which is why I had only wanted to warn the people involved and tell them not to raid citadel, but they couldn't take that seriously for 5 seconds so I decided to just go with my first instinct which was to slap a perma on everyone involved. ...

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