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This was the conversation.

This was the original concersation that resulted in the ban

Statbus Logs from attack: [2023-11-11 07:07:04.632] ATTACK: Dramatic_Pause/(John Lockwood) shoved Muffindrake/(Baal-Fur) (NEWHP: 75.8) (Shared Engineering Storage (164,143,2)) [2023-11-11 07:07:07.733] ATTACK: Muffindrake/(Baal-Fur) attacked Dramatic_Pause/(John Lockwood) with fire axe (Wielded) (C...

For the ban in question, the ban was never ordered by justice themselves, that is as much as I know. I don't know why the headmins decided to do this, I was even surprised they did this, this was a black box to admins so we can never really know what happened. I think a major reason for unhappiness ...

+1, solid in adminship

Original appeal was viewtopic.php?p=437943#p437943

Original ban: viewtopic.php?p=579836#p579836

I was going to say 'why would kieth, who seemed like a very level-headed and hands-off headmin, suddenly go turbo nuclear on the administration just because of this nonsense' but actually, we have had former headmins (not during their term, mind) go full nuclear breakdown before. It's not unheard o...

Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition. I feel like you need to realize something. This is a funny spaceman game. We are playing a funny s...

Original ban appeal is here.
viewtopic.php?p=579836#p579836

Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that? Yes. Headmin election rule 2: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647 Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a pro...

I had also discussed this with other admins prior to the ban and those who were on at that time were in agreement.
This is denied, you may call for a headmin review.

zxaber wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:01 am Ignoring everything else, holding funerals for those permabanned is funny and should be encouraged. Just, y'know, leave out the rest.

I was made aware of this incident because someone was complaining about the behavior of the CE in the round in tickets and that they raided the armory, when I went and dived in, I found out that the person who actually did it was you. Roundstart, you and the CE were discussing hacking into security....

Full Game Logs involving Hoolny: [2023-11-05 04:16:02.904] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Hoolny/(Hoolny) was assigned to a /mob/dead/new_player [2023-11-05 04:16:03.019] GAME: Hoolny/(Hoolny) Client Hoolny/(Hoolny) has taken ownership of mob Hoolny(/mob/dead/new_player) (start area (8,248,1)) [2023-11-05 ...

https://i.imgur.com/SCjv06o.png Round was 218168 . Full attack logs [2023-11-05 05:22:09.710] ATTACK: asamaritan/(Samaritan) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/sal_acid (5u, 1 purity)) from to Hoolny/(Seth Deces) (NEWHP: -45.7) (Medbay Treatment Center (159,91,2)) [2023-11-05 05:22:09.71...

this is a customs4 moment

actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban Breaking into the armoury and then shooting at the warden with lethals, in response to your toolbelt being confiscated and not returned can get you bwoinked on the LRP server. Though usual...

actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban Breaking into the armoury and then shooting at the warden with lethals, in response to your toolbelt being confiscated and not returned can get you bwoinked on the LRP server. Though usual...

With respect to the station name, the reasons I ended up making the call: 1. The phrase in question was very similar to a very controversial phrase, as I said earlier. 2. The controversial phrase in question is in reference to a counter-movement to another movement in the USA, and since many of our ...

For clarification I PMed the captain over it after your ahelp with another admin because it was eerily similar to the slogan. The captain only realized it when I hinted to them the link and was genuinely apologetic. I told them to be more careful of it. This should have been ahelped, political thing...

So, I was told to make a forum post regarding policy if I had an issue with what happened. On Manuel, during Round: 217511, the station was named "All Individuals Matter" which is a reference to "All Lives Matter". I showed disapproval towards it over comms. I wasn't attacking a...

I 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues . Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want s...

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:22 pm >sticky given multiple warnings about telling people to kill themselves before a FOUR day ban

i'm sorry, isn't doing that an instant perma?

since when

no really, I need to know who got instantly perma'd for telling people to kill themselves

Nabski wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:40 pm That fucking screenshot made on a three foot wide monitor of the original comment.

Okay we get it you have a "battlestation".

lol I really didn't realize that my new monitor could do that

Pepper posted a discord admin's playtime, their response to the question of relevancy was:

In addition, Pepper posted Jacquerel's playtime.

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	Edited to contain only facts and have less bias in the text.

A thing I noticed is that while Fig didn't immediately escalate to lethals over it, Jeremy did in fact brain him with a bottle of wine and then stabbed him with the broken bottle. https://i.imgur.com/28jQZl5.png It's easily missed, but at that point, Fig had the right to escalate to lethals because ...

Even more info While the Sacred Flame spreader was being stunned by the captain, the other miner suddenly decided to shove and try to arrest her [2023-10-11 10:50:35.469] ATTACK: Xeapor/(Sofia Summers) fired at Slayer123129/(Saul Straub) with the disabler beam from Departure Lounge (NEWHP: 100) (Dep...

What is this [2023-10-10 03:58:13.517] ATTACK: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) attacked Jay-Zero/(Fig Newton) with Gwyn's premium absinthe (NEWHP: 53.4) (Cargo Bay (171,163,2)) [2023-10-10 03:58:14.972] ATTACK: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) attacked Jay-Zero/(Fig Newton) with broken Gwyn's premium absinthe (C...

The Wrench wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:50 am Follow up question, does speaking as a bit runner in the mime avatar make you valid for speaking if you weren’t a mime before?

It should not, it's an avatar, not an actual mime

Banning admin is : dragomagol with the reason : Round 196933 - As an Asimov cyborg, sawed a human to death because they were mad at the human for killing them earlier and because that human was doing human harm. Has a bad history of silicon-related incidents. Please appeal this when you've got a bet...

So I took a look at the attack logs. Turns out, the first time, Jeff didn't just throw her down. He threw her down while she was in crit. By the very nature of escalation policy, the fight should have ended there and he should have brought her to medbay. You should read the logs more closely. At 8:...

So I took a look at the attack logs. Turns out, the first time, Jeff didn't just throw her down. He threw her down while she was in crit. By the very nature of escalation policy, the fight should have ended there and he should have brought her to medbay. It also turns out she didn't scythe him in t...

Logs of the inital fight: [2023-10-07 08:33:21.545] ATTACK: Neocloudy/(Kanaga Siegrist) shaken JupiterJaeden/(Jeff Gaiman) (NEWHP: 100) (Syndi Cat (126,129,3)) [2023-10-07 08:34:37.780] ATTACK: JupiterJaeden/(Jeff Gaiman) shoved Neocloudy/(Kanaga Siegrist) with onto the reinforced table (table) (NEW...

GPeckman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:36 am
Archie700 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:11 pm Second, it's escalation due to the fact that Jeff tossed them off a z-level, according to Jeff himself.
How is it escalation? It does barely any damage.

You're tossing someone off during a fight. It's not a willing disengagement of the fight on behalf of the victim.

If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started , you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off. From RPR rule 8: "Childish or infantile characters should be ...

If people are wordlessly tiding on Manuel please ahelp that

We aren't omniscient about about the round.

That being said, just because admins say it's an IC Issue doesn't mean they shouldn't watch the person afterwards.

slur usage

If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started , you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off. From RPR rule 8: "Childish or infantile characters should be ...

Timonk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:42 am
Jacquerel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:33 am "nukies chasing me" is both valid and not a novel
"It's fucked" is faster

"NUKIES!!!!" is even faster

ic minor crime… followed escalation policy… cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay . don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences. If you're ...

ic minor crime… followed escalation policy… cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay . don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences. If you're ...

Are you appealing a validly placed permaban and would like another chance to be unbanned?: Yes/No - **If not relevant, please delete this section** If yes, please explain why you believe it should be accepted: Vouches or playtime from other servers go here, as well as examples of good behaviour tha...

Good argument by the admeme. 12/48 vote participants is not even close to a quorum if we really want to go ham on the "democratic" take. 1/6 of the server agreeing to a singulo isn't a good reason to round-end delam the shift by a non-antag. I still think it would be different if it were ...

Let's be clear here. Jeff lasered the mime to death because the mime tried to escape and free the detective. The detective was in prison because he disagreed with Jeff and broke the heretic knives. The mime tried to escape because he was left alone with no idea on what his sentence was and was encou...

I will never agree with a proposal that removes antag from heads of staff because it will just give metaprotections to heads and that is terrible because now people will OOCly accept anything a head does because they cannot be antag.

Get a laptop

To sum up, there was no proof that the mime was a shitter besides : interfering with an arrest that might have been an accident - mime did not even try to fight trying to escape from the transfer centre that he was unlawfully kept in for at least 10 minutes without being told why or how long - no d...

To sum up, there was no proof that the mime was a shitter besides : interfering with an arrest that might have been an accident - mime did not even try to fight trying to escape from the transfer centre that he was unlawfully kept in for at least 10 minutes without being told why or how long - no du...

In this case it would not have changed much, but a timestamp on when they rolled would be very quality-of-life as we won't have to dive into dynamic.log inround to check

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