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Complaining smooth movement is too smooth.

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I was not present for this round, but pertinent to part of the ban reason ("16 connections," ... Supposedly a ban evader), I would like to add some context that I hope is not peanut. Not long before they got this ban I saw this player, they seemed new and I spent a couple rounds showing th...

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To reiterate my take on this from the last thread: On near every server I've seen that has LOOC, it is used solely for arguing, minimodding, shit flinging, and straight up stupid stuff (LOOC: brb gotta take a shit VS Player says "I feel a bout of SSD coming on, please wait for me"). If you...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powergaming Powergaming (or power gaming) is a style of interacting with games or game-like systems, particularly video games, boardgames, and role-playing games, with the aim of maximising progress towards a specific goal. Other players may consider this disruptive whe...

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Having no idea if collateral damage will result in the admins yelling at you is why we have people never run the risk of getting caught. Your target shouldn't be thrown away as being an impossible objective because they don't walk into maint so you can silently kill them without witnesses. At the s...

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Having no idea if collateral damage will result in the admins yelling at you is why we have people never run the risk of getting caught. Your target shouldn't be thrown away as being an impossible objective because they don't walk into maint so you can silently kill them without witnesses. At the s...

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Standards for other jobs are a lot harder to police since what constitutes negligence to just poor decision making should be entirely a player level handled problem. Obviously allowing the players to decided how best to handle this only feeds further into valid/not valid scenarios where heads of st...

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That also is already in the rules, for all the servers, just almost never enforced, lol. https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules#Rule_5_Precedents. 4. Abuse of position; as in being deliberately incompetent or malicious in their position is not allowed. Deliberate incompetence or malice can result in war...

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That would already fall under the rules of MRP. If you're an engineer that only uses the job to hack doors around and stir shit as non-antag, you will get bwoinked for it. There's no need for more specifity in the rules about this, because it still falls under "being a dick". I have had c...

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I was caught up in this and was one of the people who ahelped the golems being assholes. Looking at the attack logs I can't make heads or tails of much because it's a huge mess, but aside from ordering people to kill a crewmember who helped you kill the changelings in this round, I can at least say ...

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I'm only curious of one thing then, wouldn't sticky realize if he was damaged or not by just looking at his vitals I did think the logs could not show if the shooting was directed TOWARDS him or not (they only show hits after all) but the situation is messy enough to warrant a bit of confusion Stil...

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In fairness we've all typed "in-fighting" before when we totally meant "fighting", the keys are all right next to each other on the keyboard and stuff.

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bobbahbrown wrote:what could go wrong

Going off of how admin complaints historically turn out probably not much?

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These seem to be the logs from the round in question: [2020-06-24 05:38:01.523] SAY: 05:38:01.523] SAY: Bluethulhu/(R.O.G.U.E.) (priority announcement) "In reach* WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr *tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart* Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... *heart in th...

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sir this is a Wendy's drive-thru

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As unbelievably annoying as players must be in ahelps sometimes (I'm sure I myself have been That Guy plenty), I will nonetheless say I've frequently found admin's communication skills lacking as fuck, and I've never understood why even vaguely disclosing the outcome of an ahelp is something they fr...

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Rock if it makes you feel any better I have dozens and dozens of hours in sec on Manuel and hardly ever even got bwoinked.

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A true loss of a storycrafter and high quality RPer for Manuel.

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Cool, thanks.

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Thanks for the transparency Bobbah.

Would you consider something like a limited timeframe for data retention, like perhaps deleting it after a week, 30 days, 3 months, or something?

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We will never permit people to grief the round due to round circumstances or poor round performance as a result of code issues. If you break the rules, you break the rules. End of story. That's odd, I have fond memories of the entire crew griefing donut station whenever it came up in the queue. You...

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Behind nine out of ten "SHITSEC RUINED EVERYTHINGG!!1!!" stories is a dumb tider getting what they deserved, or less.

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This reminds me of this one time I saw a police officer running after somebody, so I ran in between them and stood still, bumping into the officer and intentionally enabling this obviously innocent man to get away from the unlawful pursuit in progress. The officer threatened to charge me with interf...

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I was trying to find precedent on this, and this thread while very different seems to be the last major instance this general topic came up. Inside an admin quoted two of the apparently most recent precedents. We have no interest in censoring the right to expression of others. Other servers that hav...

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A code solution is needed. E. G. Flashes and cult conversions could pacify people for a short period so their converter has time to speak with them and is forced to do it more carefully. You just made it perfectly clear in your first post that you considered it a policy problem... In any event, fat...

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They currently already "work" on MRP because by necessity several RP rules are thrown out the window and they play out 90% identically to how they do on LRP. I am of the belief that that's how they always will function here, and that it'll reinforce LRP playstyles and make them bleed into ...

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If cult and revs can work on HRP it can work here. This is more an issue with the playerbase having to adjust to MRP pacing and expectations than it is with the game modes. LRP and HRP are perhaps more similar to each other from an enforcement practicality standpoint than MRP is to either, and what...

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I've sort of made my peace with the game mode chance changes but I'd still prefer them to go back to what they were.
I do think a poll would be nice, and am skeptical the majority of Manuel even wanted this change to begin with.

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This is straying dangerously close to the argument of "things are already bad therefore nothing should improve." You're an admin, and if you're interested in RP improving on Manuel, get your ass in gear and enforce basic standards. Mix things ups and make some bans that will result in con...

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- Antags who immediately hand their uplink to R&D/sec and say "yeah I'm a traitor but I think this makes us even" which is SHIT RP, it's SHIT - Changelings that join sec within the first minute of the round and openly declare that they are a sec-ling - Blatantly hostile/lethal antags ...

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The best map we ever had... rest in peace.

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I liked this map and wish it was given a fairer shake during its time in rotation.
Thanks for all your hard work and for the memories of some fun rounds on it.

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Istoprocent1 wrote:Git that paradise/yogshit outta here.

Thanks for sharing your valuable perspective as a player who has never played a single round on Manuel.

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Particularly security. A round I was just in featured a protracted exchange over sec and public comms of sec draining uplinks of captured traitors, bargaining for telecrystals, handing out gamergear amongst sec, this and that and more. All facilitated and encouraged by the HoS. This seems to me like...

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I asked some questions similar to this and didn't get any replies.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 33&t=26184
If things along these lines are even being discussed I gather it'll probably be some time before answers are provided.

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it says unprovoked grief and unprovoked grief of specific targets are bad (aka the exact same fucking thing) which is what I am saying ...Why do think they're mentioned separately if they're the same thing? Maybe the people who wrote the rules meant to intimate that they're NOT!? Gee... Stealing an...

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The most vital point of the metagrudge rule is just to clarify that people who were antag last round aren't valid the next round for stupid people. The rest is what we just add on top of it. If for example you hate a guy so you kill them fnr one round then that's just a kill fnr. There's no "m...

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#2 honestly, sounds fine-ish? Can't somebody sacrifice TC for something that might be even a slight risk to acquire?

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Issue 4: Fluff Let's be honest, the fluff only really works as a placeholder. I don't hate the idea of a Space Mafia, but most families should try to correspond to a sci-fi setting. SS13 is a silly setting, so there's a lot of room for fun ideas here. Also the gangs themselves could use some more l...

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If you have to have a flowchart to make sure you're making the "correct" decisions, roleplaying might be the wrong hobby for you. Do what makes sense in character and ask admins questions about particulars as they come up I'm not worried about myself making the correct decisions (I don't ...

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As per the table at the bottom of here , clarification has begun on which antagonists are allowed to murderbone or not. This brings to mind a couple of questions. Does being allowed to murderbone wholly cancel out RP rule 5 and they are beholden only to server rule 4? Or, are there still some rolepl...

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A dissatisfied individual could break up that monotony by just playing on the LRP servers for a round or two, rather than the LRP suited game modes brought back into the MRP server for everyone else to "enjoy". Many players exclusively play on Manuel to avoid the LRP servers because of a ...

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Seeing a Cult or Ops round is very rare and when they do occur, it usually breaks up the monotony of constant 2+ hour long traitor / secret extended rounds and provides players an opportunity to let loose and go wild somewhat. A dissatisfied individual could break up that monotony by just playing o...

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Mickyan wrote:Tracking sanity through suit sensors would be a nice addition for this

I think this, or really any direct way of measuring the sanity/mood of somebody else, would have to be done carefully. Can't this be used as a cheap way to spot antags?

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Related question:
Should invalid demotions entitle a player to administrative help? Or just, "well go kill them bruh".

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I put a PR up to give the Psychologist some pills, feedback appreciated. https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/50211 edit: oops wrong PR giving any amount of pax is a terrible idea Why? He gets 25u spread across 5 pills. I'm terrible at chemistry and making 90u of Pax took me like 2 minutes. ...

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I put a PR up to give the Psychologist some pills, feedback appreciated.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/50211

edit: oops wrong PR

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One good idea we can steal from paradise is to allow the psychologist to help demote people who after a good faith determination are declared to be unfit to serve. If a head is ooc ick'ing, self harming or randomly attacking people you should be legally allowed to chloral them and put them in a str...

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