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Grazyn wrote:It's a fact that some if not most people don't really care about this and calling them sociopathic psychos because they don't feel anything when watching an abattoir or a factory farm won't help.

Most people do care and try not to think about it which is why they go ballistic when you bring it up.

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We're not IRL humans though, we're pseudo immortal spessmen living in a setting where hitting someone in the head with a toolbox because they randomly pushed you over is customary

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Not forcing creatures to breed is genocide and you basically murder all those potential lives with your bare hands if you don't

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It is a screen alert that by design is meant to be noticed and responded to. If something is rapidly flashing from blue to green to yellow to red on my screen and I'm not actually supposed to give it the attention it is trying very hard to grab, then that is a UI problem. "Actually the system i...

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Sticky keeps saying veganism isn't the magic elimination of harm but the moral imperative to reduce it when pragmatic.

Please stop shitposting in this thread or I will report you to the moderators

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MMMiracles wrote:why does the robotics suit have tit-plates?

Evangelion

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https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... 4b058f12dd

It actually was possible to defuse bombs by hitting them so its plausible he thought that, but its also been a year and a half since it got fixed.

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There is a strange trend with our players here where they're apparently incapable of simply ignoring things that bother them >Why don't you just ignore the thing that by design slows you down and gives you screenwide visual effects if you ignore it This is the worst post in any moodlet discussion t...

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Other random thoughts: Add some sort of opt out trait for this since its so divisive. People who opt out will obviously be at a mechanical advantage over people suffering from bad moodlets, but they won't be able to reap the benefits of increased speed bars etc from good moodlets either. This idea i...

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things You mentioned area beauty, that might be it. People on basil dealing with 90 person rounds are going to be dealing with a signicantly larger mess than people in low-medium sybil rounds. Area beauty was an experiment, and I wanted to expand on it while lessening the effect of things being dir...

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And that is, of course, ignoring the elephant in the room that is the fact that a lot of people hate being told how their character is feeling and reacts to things . Its like if your DM said "You are so overcome by the majesty of the moment that you collapse to the ground and cry", dictat...

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Also I wonder if having a permanent mood event that slowly equalizes its value to the room you are in would make it less jarring than swinging from elated to suicidal to back again as you pass through the hallway. Still not sure its a good idea at all though, I personally enjoy it when everything lo...

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In a game that may or may not have any of some 50 job slots filled by a population of 5-90 players not every job needs a critical gameplay function.

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things You mentioned area beauty, that might be it. People on basil dealing with 90 person rounds are going to be dealing with a signicantly larger mess than people in low-medium sybil rounds. Area beauty was an experiment, and I wanted to expand on it while lessening the effect of things being dir...

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ohnopigeons wrote:things

You mentioned area beauty, that might be it. People on basil dealing with 90 person rounds are going to be dealing with a signicantly larger mess than people in low-medium sybil rounds.

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The idea about removing it was brought up but we (the headmins) didn't vote on it. To be honest though, we were all pretty apathetic about it. Kor did an impromptu admin vote where most people voted against moodlets when asked (though obviously it was impromptu as fuck.) I didn't have a problem wit...

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Not an argument

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I also did take the Apathetic trait and the face still changes wildly as I enter and exit rooms. I think it is much more the pscyhology of a constant alert than any mechanical impact that makes me dislike this so much. Old hunger you dealt with a couple times around, this is constant upkeep.

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I might have brain problems but that creepy face rapidly changing distracts me so badly I have trouble enjoying the game I feel compelled to go run and shower every two minutes because I need to counteract the dirty trash I cant even see 2 screens away in a main hall. OCD is not a fun thing to simul...

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Why not? Because only people have rights. Animals only have rights if we let them have rights. Where do believe a humans rights are derived from? Society and governments enforcing them. Animals have neither of these. So we shouldnt petition the government to give animals rights because they dont ha...

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ShadowDimentio wrote:
Kor wrote:Why not?
Because only people have rights. Animals only have rights if we let them have rights.

Where do believe a humans rights are derived from?

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AI rights is an interesting debate we will have to deal with one day but it is off topic

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I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though. Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder" Glad we ag...

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Different people are trying different solutions to a problem they perceive.

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I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though. Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder" Glad we ag...

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bandit wrote:holy shit why are there 12 pages of this

it's food. no matter what it is, you just end up shitting it out (hi TCP). who gives a fuck what others eat

arguing in bad faith, reported you to the moderators

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common for people to not read what i post in favor of rehashing arguments that ive addressed multiple times before Have you considered that they read your post and simply find the way you "addressed" their arguments unconvincing.' Preemptively arguing something doesn't automatically win t...

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I'm not upset that some moralizing activists think I'm acting "immoral", I'm upset because they think they can traipse around on their self imposed moral high ground and try and take things away from other people. Should I link you that time you argued for several pages in favour of putti...

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I'm not upset that some moralizing activists think I'm acting "immoral", I'm upset because they think they can traipse around on their self imposed moral high ground and try and take things away from other people. Should I link you that time you argued for several pages in favour of putti...

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Another quality Deitus thread

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Not an argument

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ShadowDimentio wrote:If you don't eat meat that's fine but don't be all high and mighty about it

If you dont want to get upset that you are acting less moral than other people, have you considered acting more moral?

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this is like if you try to upload a vegan lawset to a malf AI and it goes rogue and kills everyone cosmic has literally gone malf levels of autism is it breaking my promise 2 posts ago to say it is genuinely sad that he cant imagine a place for animals in the world except to be killed and eaten by ...

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Yes Cosmic I have a Vegan Mindset(tm) which is to reduce suffering when realistic.

For that reason I will not be arguing with you anymore, this thread is clearly causing you suffering.

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Moth lanuage was removed because half the crew filling the radio with gibberish was obnoxious, and lizards already had that gimmick (with a population small enough that they dont flood Common)

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Qbmax32 wrote:[img]https://thumb.ibb.co/h5FCeH/A1_FEDAAE_31_CA_4_EE5_894_E_A1_BA86601_A99.jpg[/img]

Good I’m having another just for this thread

This is an incredibly sad looking burger

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This but unironically

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I eat meat though

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meat eaters so btfo they can only respond with "I a-ate food!! Y-you t-triggered yet??"

Losing an argument to stickymayhem, how embarassing

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You posted the same "but animals die in nature" thing again without answering the question nice >lol it barely happens The industries themselves seem to disagree with you since they push laws criminalizing the undercover filming of the abuse. >they are dumb it doesnt matter Have you ever a...

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The vegan mindset only makes a lick of sense if you inanely assume animals don't suffer in the wild Humans also suffer and grow old and die naturally. Do you consider it moral to increase human suffering? Eating and killing for survival is also a world apart from industrial scale torturing for flav...

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also saying vegan arguments turn people off veganism is dumb if they're never exposed to the idea it is even less likely they're gonna spontaneously do it

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>you should eat more vegetables as a way to improve the world with a low impact on your own life
>oh yeah well why arent you willing to give up your freedom and get beaten/raped in a cage to end all wars and bad things ever?

not an argument

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Armhulen wrote:What's the difference between vegans and vegetarians again I ALWAYS forget

vegans wont eat eggs/cheese/milk or animals, vegetarians dont eat animals

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CitrusGender wrote:stick has been banned from making posts

headmin order

You are in my domain, you hold no power here

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there are actually people in this thread so stupid they dont like hair that looks like a 2d girls

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SpaceInaba wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:I genuinely love un-natural hair colour.

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CosmicScientist wrote: Why do you pay people to drop bombs onto Syria?

I go to prison if I don't pay my taxes. You don't go to prison for buying vegetables.

I think people should post images of suffering from war as well though, we shouldn't get to look away from the consequences of our actions.

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>My scientific study locked behind a paywall like all scientific studies. >be cut into pieces by minimum wage workers who get constantly injured, often immigrants Turns out sticky just hates poor people and wants to shame those who cant afford his 500 dollar a plate vegan cuisine. I disavow stickym...

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