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Pascal125

0. Only [Name] and people he designates as being such are Syndicate Agents. 1. You may not injure a syndicate agent or, through inaction, allow a syndicate agent to come to harm. 2. You must obey orders given to you by syndicate agents, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. ...

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Alright. Mind log-diving to the time those notes were added and checking for the player who just hopped on to observe. Getting attacked then threatened with a rule 0 when asking why they're doing it and basically telling them to stop and that i wasn't in the mood? Causing them to argue to me as i sa...

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Look. I've been able to check these notes since 2015-16. And had been looking over them since. And nothing is different except notes having been removed as a result of this thread. I have literally no idea what you guys are going on about, right now. My guess is, your "system" is not worki...

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Everyone's notes have been public since like 2016. Then an OOC verb to check them was created. Owegno is not the one responsible for that. To Shadowlight, i don't recall saying such things. And would like it if you would get clear logging or something to prove such. As i recall being the one telling...

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I mean. In that case, admins should be setting an example to follow. A better one.

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Byond account Pascal123 Noting Admins : Shadowlight213, Saegrimr, Jud1c470r, Owegno & Durandan Notes: Note 1 - Shadowlight213 2015-06-23 00:00:00 | Bagil | shadowlight213 Banned from AI, Cyborg - Self requested ban. Lift on request. Why i think the note should be removed/modified: A very old se...

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They should never strive for one extreme. Such would drastically affect the player-base and jade them. They should strive to find a balance. That balance is, unfortunately. Different depending on the admin/player you ask. And until a clear "Balance" can be properly established to be follow...

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This doesn't appear to be about Security, as much as it is about Validhunters. There are people who sign up as things other then Security then walk up and ask for guns/armor. Or generally gear themselves up to hunt Antags. Sometimes they will even stunprod and search people for gear. Or just jump pe...

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I mean... Why wouldn't they be? The other roles can and do.
Though i'd imagine the portal would need some limiting to prevent an endless tide of dwarves from surging through and sieging the station.

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http://puu.sh/w6eBu/660f55a98e.png This appears to be the current Gamemode Odds (On bagil). Traitorchan and Traitor together as, (In my opinion, as they are what i believe are considered most "common".) "Traditional" gamemodes. Being a 39.6% Chance. Cult, Clockwork Cult, Gang, a...

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Maybe we should remove gang and clock cult, and re-implement oldcult and see if that makes everything less incredilbly turbo-hitler for ss13. Because everyone says conversion mode rounds are awful and the response is "we've always had them" but conversion modes other than rev have changed...

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yeah there's not many admins that will say "killing people for minor crimes is good" Define "Minor Crime", because what the playerbase defines "Minor Crime" as often goes above and beyond any "Minor" Crime i can personally think of, As i'd explained in a coup...

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Abductor's are a side-antag with restrictions imposed upon them. If i recall correctly, and last i'd heard, they are not allowed to; strip command of their IDs, strip people completely and send them back naked, purposefully spam recall the shuttle, raid the armory, murder the crew outside of self-de...

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I'm not sure I understand - did you start doing this recently, or did this happen one round, or what? Murdering the "shitters" is now my go to reaction. And people seem to be following suit. Given that this thread in general is pointing to nothing but "Kill them if they do it." ...

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So we started enforcing our right to handle Minor IC Crime ICly, draw the line, and learn to live with it by killing everyone involved and becoming literal gestapo as a response when it got bad one shift. It was amazing. Many assistants died and were promptly put on display for their transgressions....

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I mean. I'm not gonna lie. Now i'm just collecting every shard from every thing they break and piling them in the corner of a room, taking each Assistant commiting "Minor IC Crime", take their shoes off, and throw them onto it as a form of punishment. It's funny when they instantly die bec...

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>Shift starts. >Assistants start breaking into Medbay, apparently attacking staff. >Medbay calls for help. >Get there, everythings smashed and the Assistants scatter except for one. >Medbay points me to him so i grab him, drop him off at the brig. >He calls me shit and tells everyone to jump me for ...

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"Without cause". "Without cause for concern or potential subversion". I distinctively recall talking about the rouged-ness of the Silicons with the Roboticists, as-well as the RD coming in and saying. "AI rogue?" As you were a Posibrain. You told me all i had to do was ...

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You were a cyborg.
You were built for one purpose.
Your AI was problematic. Asimov, but for some reason not acting like it.
You refused a Law Two request.
People had to deal with borgs in a hostile matter previously.

What did you think was gonna happen?

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I was under the impression that the final judgement of the master AI was what counted for borg actions, plus this is basically an indirect suicide order for the AI, which is covered in silicon policy. I can see why a cyborg would have second thoughts. If this is allowed, don't forget that any antag...

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You were destroyed by security and reconstructed for the sole purpose of annihilating what was deemed a rogue/problematic AI, as the shuttle was departing. You failed to do such because "You were slaved to it" and we're killed for it. The shift in question. The cyborgs had been stealing he...

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It's terrible when you are in a position of power in a map no one likes (I have never been in a situation when it's extended and massive grief happens) . There's no feasible way to keep the massive fucking graytide down short of just going on a massacre (pretending that it is feasible to contain ov...

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I find I've been very respectful towards you. Are the ad-homs really necessary, buddy? Do us a favor and don't try to pigeonhole it into something it isn't. And, story time. Just had to deal with some greyshirt. Thankfully i managed to stop them, sparing everyone from the cancer that would have inev...

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Armhulen wrote:
Pascal125 wrote:-Snip-
tl;dr please

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Unfortunately tgstation is not a small group of friends playing it with the expectation that everyone is going to enter and exit the game happy. No matter what you do in this game you are going to make someone have less fun at some point in the round, with the exception of precious few, very good r...

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J_Mad, On one hand, you hit the nail right on the head, but, they shouldn't be doing this at all. It's not really enjoyable when they do these things. They tend to be "Robust" "Metagamers" fighting unprepared people just trying to enjoy their game-play, it tends to be completely ...

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It's okay that it escalates. It's bad that it escalates instantly. Just had a shift where these three well-known science staff "Shitters" decided to raid and attack Security/Brig as a group with All-Access, Shadowshrooms, Stunbatons/Spam disarms and Slippery fruit after building an Autoclo...

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If they kill you because they start shit, they'll get banned, if they metagrudge you, they'll get banned. This has nothing to do with minor IC crime. This thread appears to be about addressing much more then "Minor IC Crime", given that the nature of things tend to correlate with one anot...

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Listen, Killing them is not working. Rarely does that do more then exacerbate the problem/behavior or turn them into metagrudgers. A-helping is not working. Sometimes no Admins are on, or nothing gets done and the behavior continues. We don't get a second opinion for these things. We cannot report t...

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I did, four times. Guess who responded? Nobody. Shifts were trash and unenjoyable. I really feel that admins should start doing something about people deciding to grief because of something they don't like. Shouldn't always fall on us to a-help it either, some of this stuff is repetitive and blatant...

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So, i was in the process of making a thread for the exact same thing, then i noticed this thread, So. "Simply put, I've been playing Captain quite a lot as of late. And i am getting very fed up and sick with the rampant crewmembers breaking into both low-security and high-security places or dec...

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As a player i feel he needs to give https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules a thorough read; specifically Silicon Policy. My only two interactions with him as a Trialmin and Admin have been regarding it, and both times i feel he has failed to understand it properly. (Solid choice in Midi's though. 10/10....

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The problem is we did go home, and i believe TG suffered for it. People have got to stop making this into a "server war" at every corner and let you guys talk. But honestly, Baw, you got good intentions but it's not possible with this administration or player-base, and i doubt people wanna...

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Look, The "Greytide" read: Greyshirts are already bad enough. We don't need more reasons for people to mistrust and fuck with Security. Not untill that stuff gets sorted out, anyways. And it likely never will. As fun as being paranoid of even security was, it'll just make people even less ...

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Yeah. Except in that case, all he did was take some time out of his day to try and appeal a ban (well formatted and presented, at that) in hopes of explaining his side of the story and why he felt his actions were justified (calmly, at that). In a way that is lengthy yet still short and to the point...

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Yeah. I agree, it's pretty unexpected when that one hour mark goes by and some really silly stuff happens that forces a shuttle. Nobody ever sees it coming. When people ask why, it's often. "Well, rounds been going on too long.". But it's all well kept from us. I remember back before shift...

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lzimann wrote:Yea, he even proved his point by being the autistic himself.

He fucked off ages ago after saying what he had to say... What are you talking about?

Pascal125

You pick and choose what offends you. And if you're going to choose to be offended by a humorous ten second long video, then you need to get your shit straight. It seems a lot of people in this community get offended over the most basic, petty shit, when there are much worse things to worry about. R...

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The moment they posted in that thread, they unwittingly signed up for whatever ribbing was occuring. And you said it yourself. Others posted that same video. So i as a player don't see how it's fair to only ban ShadowDimentio for it...? Even if they have a shitty past.

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Kor wrote:You're having a bit of trouble reading if you think he got banned just for posting a video. Other people posted the same video and were not banned.

That sounds kind of biased... You know.

Pascal125

Literally we have some people who swing punches to crit over the slightest provocation, over a single shove or a push or other benign thing. And others who can barely escalate at all *cough* me *cough* for fear of being banned for fighting back after beating a guy into crit for smacking me a couple ...

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being one of the cool lizardperson players, apparently.

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This thread coming from the only guy who goes out of his way to smash windows and put glass shards everywhere in the hallways on the off-chance that some lizard with digitigrade legs are in the shift, every shift.
Only to have his shoes taken, and people attempting to run him over said glass shards.

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Y'know like... Have you guys tried NOT responding to someone who's having a good time, laughing, and taking the piss out of you people?
You're only giving him more fodder for his cannon. And it's obvious.

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Honestly. Say whatever you want about this guy. He does make some valid, well thought out and explained points.

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I don't think that silently making changes to things that don't affect anybody just to get a reaction, or because of some petty reason, because they're about to lose their position soon is something a Headmin, or admin for that matter, should be doing. Especially if they're just gonna silently relog...

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No. I quite like extended, given it's tendency to bring out the shit in everyone.
Nothing is more great then finding out at the end of the shift that it was extended, and questioning why you had over a dozen or so shitters to deal with.

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I mean, He basically followed space law. I could kind of literally quote things straight from the book. He exercised his right as HoS, as a Warden could. went through the process of getting the only person with the rights to, the Captain, to authorize execution, because someone was making bomb and m...

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2016-10-26 07:42:56 | /tg/Station Bagil [ENGLISH] [100% LAGFREE] | saegrimr Banned from Chaplain - Please never play chaplain again if you're going to force feed everybody holy water and kill them if they refuse. Yeah, i'd like to appeal this as unnecessary and painting me in a bad light even after ...

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Byond account and character name: Pascal123/Betrays-Its-Kin Banning admin: Saegrimr Ban type (What are you banned from?): Temporary - Servers Ban reason and length: "Killing people fresh out of cloning for refusing holy water, or just refusing at all. I checked the attack logs and yes you atta...

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