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Kelenius

Wahhhh he shaved the head of my 2d spessman which would take me 10 seconds to fix bawwww I must kill him wahhhh he's being a jerk to me.

Kelenius

http://wiki.ss13.co/Rules

Take a look.

Kelenius

Or you could stop being the type of people that absolutely must kill everyone the moment they know they won't get banned for it. You have two almost full pages of people defending their right to kill people for a very minor thing.

Kelenius

Stickymayhem wrote:If mobs can kill people whenever they people should be able to kill mobs whenever.

On the countary, if people can kill people whenever, mobs should be able to kill people whenever. Which means that a xenobiologist that would slime themselves is an instant antag.

Kelenius

MrStonedOne wrote:I don't see the point of blacklisting an entire color spectrum because ONE player can't see it.

adjust your monitor to make yellow stand out more, even if your monitor isn't to blame, you can still tweak it to work with your eyes better.

Remind me, how many dial-up players do we have?

Kelenius

>Roleplay.

Please. You can't just go and enforce heavy roleplay in this specific instance because "this is a roleplaying game". /tg/ is a very light RP.

Besides

>Being put into perma
>RP

Please.

Kelenius

TheNightingale wrote:As a point of information, AIs already have to follow most server rules. You can't law two an AI to IC-in-OOC, ERP, metacommunicate, et cetera.

So basically an AI has the follow the rules that the antags have to follow. Sounds about right.

Kelenius

So, when you are thrown into perma, you are supposed to stare at the wall, lest you somehow manage to get back into round because that would be terrible. How about no. Just punish people if they metagame/metagrudge. Don't blanket punish everyone. What if HoS is a shithead and puts people into perma?...

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"Team antagonists can do anything they want as long as it doesn't deliberately harm their team" is a better wording. Thwn again, I don't like these rules, because people can and will do shit that isn't covered by the rules directly, then whine when they get banned for rule 1, then you add ...

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ITT: silicons asking for an excuse to murder people.

This fucking mentality is exactly what is wrong with this server.

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Yellow on white is dumb.

Whoever made that is dumb.

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So why'd you want to let a player who was banned and can't even be bothered to made a decent appeal play?

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So anyway, on the subject of the topuc. I don't think that sec or anyone with weapons need any sort of special policy that covers personal interactions. If they're dealing with an assistant who broke into robotics, security rules apply, the moment he grabs a toolbox to bash you with it, usual escala...

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firecage wrote:No Kel, the point of the thread was if they could be treated the same as Lizardmen, not for valids.

Yeah, and then it got filled with 'gotta get muh valids' and 'kill all furries'.

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HG is literally everything that is right with /tg/.

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Yeah, but shitlers grabbing the people from security is annoying as fuck.

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This thread is already full of 'gotta get muh valids' and 'kill all furries'.

Disgusting.

Kelenius

In my experience (granted, that was a long time ago), going ventplasma shockeverything results in asimov being reuploaded very quickly at best, blown borgs and killed AI at worst.

Kelenius

Sounds like we're transferring to a heavy RP Server if this is the direction MSO/Headmins are taking us. It does seem to be heading towards that bay style of restriction where every circumstance has a policy. It's certainly far more than what it was even a year ago. Do you actually play on bay or a...

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Hibbles wrote:From the logs, it's clear he's playing a 'I hate borgs hur hur RP' character, which is perfectly fine

Platinum case of using 'muh RP' to justify being a complete dick to other players for no reason.

Kelenius

I remember how people were saying that letting heads modify IDs would make HoP useless.

I remember how people were saying that giving heads ID modification consoles would make HoP useless.

We laughed at them.

They were right.

It fucking happened.

Kelenius

Well, I got called out for my usual name. So yeah, I think that not allowing mononames is dumb.

Kelenius

I've updated my account just to go to this thread and tell that I've been in that round and it was terrible. A couple of people screaming swears at centcom somehow mean that you can BSA the station, leaving massive holes all over it, and holes in the station are not particularly picky about who they...

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Scott wrote:Let's keep this space related, or we start adding blacksmiths.

Space blacksmiths.

Kelenius

Come on, lizards in command roles is so much better. One of the greatest lizard rounds I had was with me being lizard captain. How? What does this add? Lizards were nobles and humans were peasants. So good. Restricting it, on the other hand, does nothing but enforce roleplay via code. Which is not ...

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Skorvold wrote:It's clear as crystal what you're trying to do by doing this, which is powergame and make sure you have every ready advantage to win a game that has no win condition.

This somehow only ever applies to security.

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Why can't you take your fucking 'nerf assistants' and shove it somewhere else.

This thread is about security.

There is a 'nerf assistants' thread, stop bringing it everywhere.

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Remie Richards wrote:The clouds use /toxin/spore which has a toxin power of 0.5, it's not much, but if you stand in the cloud like an idiot it'll build up and poison you quite a bit.
And yes, it makes your vision blurry too.

Unless you wear a mask

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Baycode still has stungloves, BTW.

They are going to be removed soon but currently they are in.

Kelenius

You're basing your train of thought on an idea that traitors exist to win.

It's incorrect.

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But

The law says that only X /is/ human.

Is, not are. As in there is only one of them.

Kelenius

Forcing people into a role they don't want?

Congratulations, you just made a suggestion that is even worse.

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MisterPerson wrote:Might finally get people to shut up about porting Baymed after riding Medbay's Wild Ride for 7 days straight.

MERGE HE

Kelenius

But in this particular case, the AI knows the true identity of the masked person.

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/turf/simulated/mineral/gibtonite/New()
	det_time = rand(8,10) //So you don't know exactly when the hot potato will explode
	..()

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Objectives shouldn't be completed for the sake of objectives. You accomplish something for it to matter. Who cares that you maxed R&D if nobody ever used it? Who needs your shitty materials if you dumped them in cargo and didn't tell anybody? But see, robotics made a bunch of mechs and gave the...

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It's more than "Did this or did not". I can have million reasons not to make borgs at all, but suddenly it's my objective and instead of building mechs I have build borgs now? That's stupid. People should be doing whatever is most useful in the current situation, not what RNG decided. I c...

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Scott wrote:I think this is a terrible idea. The game is supposed to be played on the station.

Says who?

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So in essence, you are saying 'Borgs are too powerful, they shouldn't choose their names'. Okay then. Wizards are too powerful, they shouldn't choose their names. Nuke ops are too powerful, they shouldn't choose their names. Captains are too powerful, they shouldn't choose their names. AIs are too p...

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Just code it so that if you suicide/go catatonic you are ineligible for thunderdome. (And randomize player names to remove meta.) How hard can it be? (serious question) People will jump into space. Edit: That being said, I don't see a problem with this. After a week or so of 'wow new stuff' awe, no...

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A lot of experienced players don't want to get real jobs because it's tedious as fuck and annoying, because most of the time you'll be surrounded by a fuckton of incompetent players, and worse, you'll be relying on them. I used to like playing as a medical doctor, but then it was more and more annoy...

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Let's just remove clone backups :V

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I take no credit for this, but I sadly can't recall who first came up with it: Medbay should have a box of lollipops to give to good patients. Make them equippable as face-slot items like cigarettes, except they can also be added as an accessory to clown masks. I'd add this if somebody made sprites...

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This was put on hold for a long while, but a few days ago I started working on it again. Currently, there are new conditions for being put in crit (too much damage to head, too much damage to torso, etc) and dying (same things that put you into crit but harsher, or being in crit for too long). Human...

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I remember that there was some chemist who got a ban for saying in OOC that he was AFK.

So yeah, while this particular example is probably valid, I believe that rules on IC in OOC are too harsh.

Kelenius

http://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32

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How about an improvised spacesuit? Take a cardborg helmet and suit, line it with tinfoil, install a space heater, and viola; and instant spacesuit that will protect you on your spacewalks until the battery runs out or the whole thing catches fire and you die a very quick and painful death. Fucking ...

Kelenius

Cutting off plasma without a reason is ahelpable.

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Stunrod runs out very quickly, and cablecuffs are removed in 30 seconds. They are already pretty weak.

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Traitors being able to attach C4 to mobs to gib them was not fun for anyone but greentextseekers. So yeah, I'm all for the nerf.

Minibomb costs slightly more, requires a little more time, and is not an instant ggnore the moment it's thrown.

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