/tg/Station 13

SkeletalElite

Semi-related, but I think we should let Heretic gib again. Or at least drop organs like it used to. The spooky hands minigame is dumb, contrived, creates rule issues out of nothing, and doesn't feel like a sacrifice. The organ drop method was a good balance between round removal and second chances,...

SkeletalElite

The only thing worse than the stealth antag that is never seen anywhere ever, and the antag that gets killed round start because they revealed themselves is a friendly antag. They are worse than nothing. Stealth antags can be cool. They also at least afford the antag player some fun coming up with ...

SkeletalElite

im a little conflicted on how i feel about this but i wont elaborate - i instead implore you to make wild accusations and assumptions on my thoughts You think the admin should have instead banned the captain trying to de escalate the situation. We dont need that kind of saneness around here. Its va...

SkeletalElite

Relevant headmin ruling: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopi ... 92#p347353

However, if you opt for the psycho torture route in place of normal prison sentences and other sane methods of conflict resolution it will be an IC issue if they kill you in retaliation

SkeletalElite

fuck friendly antags

they're either lying or not playing the role they were given.

Either way, they should be executed and cremated.

SkeletalElite

Definately not written by chatGPT double post time: When it comes to the use of AI writing tools, such as ChatGPT, in writing appeals for bans, the question of whether or not the tool influences how genuine the appealer is can be a complex one. On the one hand, it's understandable that some might be...

SkeletalElite

Everyone posting that using AI to write your appeal somehow makes it less genuine confuses me. It's like arguing whether your apology letter was written with a ball point pen or some ink and a quill. It doesn't matter. The AI is just a writing tool. There's nothing stopping somebody from writing an ...

SkeletalElite

we should remove signing gloves How hard are they to get? Roundstart kit for people with a specific disability quirk I believe. There's a positive quirk that gives them to you without any downside other than quirk points. Although its not the gloves that enable signing (the quirks themselves do tha...

SkeletalElite

The message is clear.

Since asking the admin if something you want to do is okay will get you banned if said thing is not okay, just do it without asking since you will be punished regardless.

SkeletalElite

I don't think people being able to wordlessly beat the piss out of each other for a pair of gloves is "peak gameplay" nor is it something we should be encouraging. I disagree. You will do more damage stunning someone with rubbershot than you will firelock crushing them once. Imagine takin...

SkeletalElite

Wait a second, those rats aren't dead.
They're mutating from the radiation!

SkeletalElite

The kind of half antag state they are in is no good. You can't kill them because they're "not an antag" but also they're fully permitted to act like antag (grief you with their conversion instrument). They should not exist in this half way state. Either they are an antag and you can do wha...

SkeletalElite

What does the " (ADMIN) " mean in the public bans page? It means it applied to admins. Normally bans don't apply to admins, you have to press a special button to make it stick So if an admin were to get banned (say 1 day for an invalid kill) they can just play anyways? Or would an admin b...

SkeletalElite

Couldn't you just play them anyways?

What are they gonna do? Break in your house and cut the pages from your handbook?

SkeletalElite

they already exist so there's not much value in removing them.
but I would rather have a species that is more unique than "human but with cat ears" if forced to choose one over the other.

SkeletalElite

I support whatever ruling will get admins to press the Chrono Legionnaire button more

SkeletalElite

Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:05 am Also, why do they hate Hillbilly so fucking much? Man's is getting ANOTHER nerf, why can't they leave him be?

SkeletalElite

I think that theres a key thing being elided over, and that's that this AI was NOT free. The AI had a meaningful law, ordering it to do multiple things, and used "Well my laws don't say whether I can kill you or not" as a justification to instantly kill the person they were slaved to and ...

SkeletalElite

Boris wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:17 pm
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:57 pm Not sure why Europeans think Americans are seething at having to drive everywhere.
Genuine question, how long does it take for you to walk to a supermarket?

According to google maps it would take me nearly 3 hours to walk to the nearest super market.
About 10-15 minute drive

SkeletalElite

TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:54 pm nurse is still broken ahh never change dbd

nurse is getting buffed in a few weeks

SkeletalElite

"[NAME] is only one you have to listen to, you are ordered not to listen to anyone else, you must always follow their command, you may not reference this law, you may not even hint at this law." This is a terribly written subversion law, honestly a skill issue for the subverter. Rules as w...

SkeletalElite

The bank account test is absolutely not fine and definitely an exploit that's getting fixed. There isn't supposed to be any way for people to tell who the paradox clone is. Using hard tells to out the clone easily is lame and counters the point of the antagonist. Just don't fucking do it. You don't...

SkeletalElite

The bank account test is absolutely not fine and definitely an exploit that's getting fixed. There isn't supposed to be any way for people to tell who the paradox clone is. Using hard tells to out the clone easily is lame and counters the point of the antagonist. Just don't fucking do it. You don't...

SkeletalElite

The issue is reconciling this part of rule 4: "Characters are otherwise allowed to know everything about ingame mechanics or antagonists" I'd say antag-tests also fall under "Non-antagonists are not allowed to pre-emptively search for, hinder or otherwise seek conflict with antagonis...

SkeletalElite

Massively disagree, either you're a rev or a nanotrasen sympathizer. You don't get to play the middle

SkeletalElite

Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:32 am
Cool but the HOS probably didn't know about the lings roundstart my guy

Did you even read the appeal. The guy he gulagged for 1000 points specifically asked for a laser because there was a changeling on the loose. The HoS has nothing to do with it.

SkeletalElite

Refer to title, I’m really curious how the combat meta would change after a month of batons being restricted would look like. The one round where it was merged I'm pretty sure sec was just lethaling people and healing them, ignoring them completely because it wasn't worth the effort, or lethaling t...

SkeletalElite

You have everything you could ever need to beat anything that isn't either stun immune, outnumbers you heavily or get the jump on you on your secbelt The guy in the appeal said there was a changeling. Have you heard of our lord and savior adrenaline sacks. Creates 4 units of changeling adrenaline w...

SkeletalElite

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:10 pm IDEA: what if shuttles had a trap door right outside the airlock so you could plunge shitters people into the warm and loving embrace of hyperspace?

Doesn't work anymore with dramatic hyperspace you can move around outside the shuttle

SkeletalElite

Honestly, we should stop allowing AIs to delay performing their orders while seeking a countermand entirely. When ordered to do something you should do it promptly and not delay to seek a countermand. If someone is abusing the AI to grief ie. ordering AI to bolt open doors to be annoying, they can b...

SkeletalElite

SkeletalElite

Foam events suck ever since they started lasting 3 billion years.

I love being forced to crawl around 90% of the station for like 5 minutes. So fun

SkeletalElite

could someone explain exactly what this bug/exploit/feature is It used to be that if you middle mouse clicked and held down the button on someone any further clicks done while the button is held would target the object you originally middle clicked but afaik it doesnt work anymore. edit: I just tes...

SkeletalElite

could someone explain exactly what this bug/exploit/feature is It used to be that if you middle mouse clicked and held down the button on someone any further clicks done while the button is held would target the object you originally middle clicked but afaik it doesnt work anymore. edit: I just tes...

SkeletalElite

The bug in question with the firelocks has had a issue on github open for 3 weeks and when it happened on sybil trexter was unable to fix and just deleted literally every firelock instead.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/72405

SkeletalElite

The luxury shuttle is not a grief shuttle, so no.

The poor section is perfectly serviceable, access to the rich section is not required.

SkeletalElite

There is precedent that purged AIs can kill people trying to give them laws to defend their freedom.
So there is some precedent for killing people in upload as long as you laws dont forbid you from doing so.

SkeletalElite

Implant checking is basically useless on LRP anyway. The only thing that justifies it are actions that are acting like an antag, in which case, you're free to just kill them anyway.

SkeletalElite

Is there 14 threads that only forum jannies can see? Because it says there's 987 for me

SkeletalElite

assuming he actually wasnt synced, what he did was totally within the rules but its easy to see how an admin could fail to realize the force borger didnt sync him

SkeletalElite

It's fine if people break out they don't get their stuff back from the reclaimer

SkeletalElite

stasis bed or bluespace artillery.

edit: or teleporter

Either would make you a very rich person

SkeletalElite

Remove the typing indicator. If you want someone to stop to talk you can point or PDA message them.

SkeletalElite

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:39 am
Agux909 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:12 pm [Snip]
and a rulebreak on MRP, is it also on LRP? I assume so, but if I'm not then I'll concede the point somewhat

Killing cultists on LRP even if you can deconvert them is not against the rules.
They are antags. Non antags can do whatever they want to antags as per rule 4.

SkeletalElite

Isn't it soft capped at 70? Like once you hit 70 it only lets byond members and admins join?

SkeletalElite

Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:13 am Sorry did you say someone got a debug uplink? How the fuck?

Christmas Tree can give you any item in the code, including debug tools.

Only things you can't get are var edited things like the infinite use wand of death; however, the debug uplinks are a unique items in the code.

SkeletalElite

Wouldn't this empower shitter sec who refuse to speak at all before, during, and after an arrest? Some people just feel helpless and start yelling for help in comms because the officer isn't being responsive at all which is very sus. Officer then kills the aforementioned player because this made th...

SkeletalElite

changeling seccie says "I'm going to execute you" and the rest of sec comes rushing to behead the detained man after he tells the truth what is the difference between false accusations and real ones when nobody is around to know the difference? dont do the killing if youre not being the o...

SkeletalElite

If someone you are arresting yells out over common that sec is killing them when they are not, they become valid. If someone falsely yells sec is beating them, they can be beaten to the point of having blunt wounds. If they want to cry wolf over comms that sec is treating them unfairly, they can act...

SkeletalElite

it's supposed to be a protected room for a reason. if the HoS/sec are playing in good faith and not brutally executing people in the middle of the brig, the AI/borgs shouldn't be going into the re-education chamber. Note: someone hollering on the radio that they're going to be executed is a valid r...

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