/tg/Station 13

Luke Cox

I used to play that game. Then Heart of Thorns happened. Not falling for Anet's marketing ever again. HoT and the post-expansion content taking more than a year to release made it clear that their development team has severe management problems.

Luke Cox

What if it's just invisibility while standing still in certain light levels, aka literally the thing you can get from genetics but weaker?

Luke Cox

>Right to bear arms infringed on

1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN

Luke Cox

So sleeping carp but with stealth instead? Sounds pretty neat.

Luke Cox

goal here is to narrow their ability sets down to give them clear strengths and weaknesses But that's exactly my idea. It sounds like you want lings to focus almost exclusively on stealth though. Going loud should still be an option for lings, but we need to keep them from taking a dozen get out of...

Luke Cox

@Saeg: It's like this is some kind of ideas board! I'd rather try to help brainstorm than complain. This is a lot more productive than screeching on the feedback forum to remove ling because I ded pls nerf @Arm: That would probably be for the best. Trying to make the mode line up with a movie is a ...

Luke Cox

I wouldn't mind seeing the revive timer increased a bit, but agian, if you honestly can't find a way to gib a body in SS13 the problem is you.

Luke Cox

Space loops you straight back on station most of the time and is generally considered a completely fucking retarded move since the ling will just revive and come back. The gibber can be armbladed and often is. The only reliable way is shuttlecrush which either gives the ling a chance to revive or g...

Luke Cox

This may be controversial, but what if we removed hidden stings entirely? I don't really think those are the issue. Biggest issue is the fucking comms and free revives. Remove those and ling might be somewhat balanced. The revives are fine if the crew aren't fucking retards who can't figure out how...

Luke Cox

This may be controversial, but what if we removed hidden stings entirely?

Luke Cox

Much simpler idea Three categories of ling abilities, Combat, Stealth, and Regenerative If take an ability from any category, all abilities in any other categories go up in price by 1 So if you take armblade, armor, shield, screech, etc (all combat abilities), it costs what it usually does, but if ...

Luke Cox

@Saeg: It's like this is some kind of ideas board! I'd rather try to help brainstorm than complain. This is a lot more productive than screeching on the feedback forum to remove ling because I ded pls nerf @Arm: That would probably be for the best. Trying to make the mode line up with a movie is a b...

Luke Cox

Lings can be frustrating, but do you guys really die to them that often? The traitors usually end up being way more dangerous in traitorchan rounds in my experience. I don't think I've actually died to a ling in months.

Luke Cox

antags kill people REEEEEEEE The current setup encourages murderbone a hell of a lot more than this. Lings will be a lot easier for everyone if they have to earn their abilities rather than have them all dumped on them at once. Loudly and confidently pursues objectives; does not hide from security ...

Luke Cox

No MS paint meme art because I'm fucking lazy The Virgin Sting Ling Meekly walks around using DNA extract sting to meet genome objectives Cannot function independently, must rely on telepathic hugbox Beta who must take every protective ability possible Uses feeble stings to weaken target; is afraid ...

Luke Cox

The hippie nerfs are a band-aid. Ling is broken because it can pick and choose a bunch of different abilities and become impervious to basically everything. None of the abilities are broken in a vacuum, it's combinations of various abilities that make ling broken. Implement a skill tree with powerfu...

Luke Cox

If you miss singulo so much, learn to delaimate the SM by applying one of my custom setups.

Luke Cox

I think it goes without saying that the officers get first call. Definitely hand out guns once everyone is armed though.

Luke Cox

I don't mind assistants making spears and other makeshift weapons and hunting down cults and the like. As long as they don't tide the brig to get their gear, I don't mind the help. They make useful cannon fodder. I get what you're saying though with the "innocent vigilantes". Act like an a...

Luke Cox

I'm going to do my ling write-up later, but as a tl;dr of what I had in mind: No more of this glorified uplink shit. Lings get ability trees that function similarly to techwebs. 3 linear upgrade paths to keep it simple (possibly one for combat abilities, one for stealth abilities, and one for healin...

Luke Cox

It seems like we're all in agreement that constructs are too easy to obtain. What if we reworked how they're created? I was thinking that we get rid of soul shards from non-cultist sacrifices entirely. Instead, you make a rune, put a dead body and a cultist on it (living or dead), and invoke it to g...

Luke Cox

One way I've proposed counteracting that is by locking some of the more powerful abilities behind membership gates, adding a bit more of a ramp up. Make it so that the powers become re-locked if membership falls below the threshold too. That way, deconverting a significant number of cultists becomes...

Luke Cox

Perfect timing, I actually had what I felt like was a good idea for a ling rework. How would you feel if certain abilities were mutually exclusive, and you had to earn evolution points?

Luke Cox

But if the cult manages to escalate to that point, who's fault is it? You have to play actively against them. Cult requires a base to work effectively, and that's the key to fighting them. I agree that some of their abilities are OP, and thankfully Oldman is nerfing them significantly. Security will...

Luke Cox

Playing HoS for 3 and a half years does things to a man. I think the reason that a lot of sec has trouble with conversion antags is because they don't like to actively pursue antagonists. Could be out of fear of the dreaded bwoink, the playerbase hating "shitcurity", or mechanics. Probably...

Luke Cox

The proposed changes seem to address a lot of the issues, great job with that. My only issue is that sacrificing someone to make a construct still feels like the superior option 99% of the time. wasn't this literally what robustin built his new cult around? He might have, and I think that's a bit o...

Luke Cox

A. Oldman is way ahead of you. Cultists will get glowing eyes when they comprise 20% of the station population, and a red aura at 40%. B. You don't just discern cultists from how they look, you look at how they act. If they immediately run when you enter the room, they're probably a cultist. If they...

Luke Cox

If you honestly can't tell whether someone is a cultist or not, you might actually be retarded. https://puu.sh/zZ4K6/77d6b5e052.png One of these two is a cultist. Choose wisely. Dunk, search bag, drown in holy water, release. Also, if Oldman's PR goes through (spoiler alert it will), one will have ...

Luke Cox

Handing out the armory during war ops is optional in the same way that bathing is optional.

Luke Cox

If you honestly can't tell whether someone is a cultist or not, you might actually be retarded.

Luke Cox

I'll grant you that they can be a bit of a clusterfuck. Rev is fine because once someone is implanted, that's it. Blood cult had problems, but coderbus is actively working to alleviate it. Cluck cult I dunno.

Luke Cox

The least autistic admin

Luke Cox

Could someone explain something to me? Why is it that people prefer playing modes where getting defeated by the antags means you're out of the round permanently rather than a mode where you get to keep playing with free valids?

Luke Cox

>Remove half of the antags

lol ok

Luke Cox

The proposed changes seem to address a lot of the issues, great job with that. My only issue is that sacrificing someone to make a construct still feels like the superior option 99% of the time.

Luke Cox

@Yakumo_Chen The problem with the old research and talisman systems is that they weren't challenging but rather incredibly counterintuitive and autistic. Either everyone stumbled getting nothing done or someone sperged out and did it in 5 minutes. I think there needs to be some ramp up for more powe...

Luke Cox

I've come up with a few more ideas: Aforementioned tome idea. Tome is used for spells, slap people with the charged tome to use it, charge goes away if tome leaves your hands. "Storing" spells is grossly OP, that change would fix half the problem. Cult only starts off with very basic spell...

Luke Cox

Cult ops is pants on head retarded no matter what context it's tried in. For balance, how about this: tome returns, is required in hand to use blood magic spells. Channeling the spell "charges" the come, whacking someone with it uses it. Charged tomes revert to normal when put in your bag....

Luke Cox

Fucking balance it so people stop complaining about my favorite mode

Luke Cox

Make every round devil. We can honor Jesus by defeating Satan(s)!

Luke Cox

Spawn all assistants in the burn chamber

Luke Cox

It was an inside job

Luke Cox

My bad, it shouldn't have been merged at all then.

Luke Cox

No note in the changelog, merged immediately before a code freeze

Luke Cox

Could somebody please tell me why these god awful airlock sounds were silently merged conveniently before the code freeze?

Edit: Our lord and savior is here https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/36639

Luke Cox

Mashes buttons, plays music, and isn't afraid to run events when the round gets stale

11/10

Luke Cox

I'm going to take all this as my autistic custom setups being validated by the D E S I G N lead. Edit: On a related not,SM is a far better experience than the singularity or tesla in every possible regard. There's more room for customization, there's some means of recourse if it goes south, and ther...

Luke Cox

Half of the traitors would probably turn on each other to steal gear. I sincerely doubt there'd be a team deathmatch scenario. Would also make double agent rounds rather interesting.

Luke Cox

Ding dong the witch is dead

Luke Cox

Case and point, I went on sybil one day as HoS, and midround a hulk started bashing down all of security's doors. Ahelped it. Kevin was on and told me "lol just kill them" Tried to kill them, slip on water. Hulk kills me, then proceeds to kill most of medbay and at least two more security...

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