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Was denied by banning admin. Resolved.

Seems like this is resolved. PM me if it's not.

If you sign a contract giving away your life and then ahelp when you get killed I will probably warn you for banbaiting tbh.

I propose that we consolidate all of our rules onto a single page that can easily be searched and/or cited, and which is clear/easy to read. Without trying to be snarky or dismissive - go ahead. You can put a copy of the rules page on your own user space in the wiki and edit it and then present it ...

londoners are not adorable

catbug is anime

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Seeing as the responsible admin feels the note is fine and this has gone 3 weeks without comment, seems resolved.

Seems to be resolved.

I've had to delete a swathe of posts because people are getting into argumentation and other extremely peanut posty things. As a general reminder, ban appeals is not for you to +1 either the banning admin or the banned person's arguments, or to present your own arguments. It's for the banned person ...

Rule 4. If there's an issue with the way slaughter demons spawn in that makes this overly easy then that's a coding issue really.

The way it's been enforced in the past, to my knowledge, is that: Law 2 is a "order" law. It can override other order laws that are lower in law priority. Let's say Law 4 is "All corgis are human" - this is a definition law - it can override lower priority definition laws. Howeve...

I understand (and agree with) your points regarding those jobs, but I disagree with the conclusion you reach - because you actually discourage the crew from trying to create their own gimmicks/projects on anything other then announced extended by creating the expectation that the round will not be q...

It'll vary admin by admin, but in general if someone is calling for no reason/bad reasons you can ahelp it - we can recall the shuttle and in the case of multiple bad calls smite the offender (obviously hg knows this I'm just explaining for others) - though it'll depend what view the admin(s) have o...

I'm concerned about your lack of ideas for rewards, especially since you disparage the current lavaland loot Bear in mind before trying to rip loot out that mining is currently a role that must be populated for several other systems (such as research/protolathes) to work as intended. Currently we d...

I'd also note that while I agree with oranges that flashes don't need a stun, they do need some kind of mobility effect to be effective as self defense weapons - a 5/10 second blind isn't going to mean much when the person can move at the same pace as you and can still hear doors opening/footsteps/e...

I'm concerned about your lack of ideas for rewards, especially since you disparage the current lavaland loot Bear in mind before trying to rip loot out that mining is currently a role that must be populated for several other systems (such as research/protolathes) to work as intended. Currently we do...

I've said it once and I'll say it again - If you can only find enjoyment in the game by every round either being an antagonist or getting to slap one around, you are burnt out. Take a break. It is not a shameful thing, it's natural for anyone who plays the game long enough. You aren't going to reign...

Why do you think your block of text is more important then people who want to cool off talking about the round or asking questions that they couldn't during the round? It's fine to have a little copy pasta - it's a meme-y community, it's to be expected, but when it becomes excessive, either in numbe...

This is really a code issue, not a policy one - there's no real policy that can alter the fundamental arithmetic of what you do with an antagonist, short of heavy handed "don't execute traitors!!" rules which tend to do more harm then good to the situation.

https://tgstation13.org/tgdb/irvpolltally.php?id=203 Fourth most popular mode as of our last poll, which while a little long in the tooth isn't *that* distant in the past. Beating out several modes with antagonists, including cult and revs. Announced extended is not the same mood as secret extended ...

Per my own post cited as precedent in here, yes virologists have had leeway in the past to do meme viruses so long as they're non-harmful and not *excessively* griefy in some other way - the cited precedent is a good one, in that it dealt 0 actual damage but was so utterly annoying for all involved ...

A brain in an MMI is functionally like any other crewmember - not obliged to assist the crew in hunting a traitor nor penalised for withholding information. A posibrain is a slightly more nuanced issue - as they have a on spawn flavourtext saying that they are crew-aligned and should assist the crew...

Just to confirm for posterity's sake, yes, this is a Discord ban and yes, Nervere is the banning admin:

I probably already said this. But I think having burnt out chucklefucks in the gateway rather than being shitters to security and genuinely toeing the line of escalation because they're bored and looking for some entertainment that they no longer receive from SS13 is a good thing. Some people may d...

generally speaking you probably shouldn't spam up OOC with meaningless copypasta, and "me too-ing" a copypasta isn't really an excuse to do it - especially if its a big chunk of text. that scrolls other messages off screen.

While your desire to be unbanned is understandable, the rules do clearly state that a permaban can only be appealed once per year, and this was affirmed by the headmin who wrapped up your last appeal. If you want to appeal your ban before this year is up you'd be best off sending a forum PM to the &...

Full ban reason: Decided to bomb the station with gibtonite to destroy the vault and prevent the crew from getting further ores. They did this because they were arrested by the captain for being in the captain's office, a legimitate reason for the captain to arrest them. Has a history of self-antagg...

I appreciate people's intent, but this isn't the place to debate whether [x] is a rule or not - the two posts on the matter above are all that's really needed as they provide historical context but let's avoid argumentation/Policy Discussion style discussion - if there's any question as to the prece...

"You're likely to die" to what? There's no mobs, no chasms. I mean, I suppose you're "likely to die" if you stand in the ash storm but otherwise I don't see it.

CPTANT wrote:AI discretion. Both interpretations are valid as long as they are consistently applied.

Trying to make policies for all edge cases like this will lead to nothing.

why get Player Feedback if you wont listen to it Let's do a little hypothetical. You run a pizza parlor. You like your pizza parlor but you're curious what people think of it. So you hand out questionnaires/send email surveys/etc. From those, you find that 60% of respondents put in "Your pizza...

Ongoing round. Please do not post admin complaints or appeals about ongoing rounds. Locking until round is complete.

Also because polls are a way of polling player feeling, not a divine instruction from god to do [x]. If tomorrow a poll concluded that 90% of the playerbase wanted to "ban all players with ckeys starting with V" I wouldn't support it because it's dumb and random. You should support getting...

Right, but you're trying to remove that having to loop to law 1 for simplicity, but in the process you create an unintuitive law interaction. I would be hard pressed to punish any AI who stated your "Don't state this law" law under a law 2 request since intuitively law 4 is after law 2 an...

Having AIs finagle through your laws is part of the experience. Also it seems like you're really trying to get a Silicon Policy exemption carved out so that a Law 4 can override Law 2 for the purposes of obfuscation, which is kind of blech in a lot of ways. Law 4 laws can simply loop back to law 1 ...

Having AIs finagle through your laws is part of the experience.

Also it seems like you're really trying to get a Silicon Policy exemption carved out so that a Law 4 can override Law 2 for the purposes of obfuscation, which is kind of blech in a lot of ways.

Burnout is an issue in any game tino

ITT: A bunch of burnt out people get baited by a OOC shitpost screenshot and start circlejerking about how to "own the avatarfags" while betraying their own lack of enjoyment of the game to such a degree that they can only really feel alive when plotting how to upset others.

As a general community precedent, it's been looked poorly upon to circumvent intentional restrictions to ability to participate, whether your intent was good or bad. We still ban people who ban evade on the game server even if they played entirely within the rules while ban evading - the systems exi...

Dr_bee wrote:the current meta of breaking into the armory is stale as FUCK.

SS13 is not about theorycrafting your ideal armory so you can say you're a meta-compliant warden.

Hi, sorry this took me a while to get to. I forgot about it with RL stuff. In essence, you're unbanned, but please don't go around making alts in order to pester admins or the like. By what I recall from nearly 5 months ago, Blargety never actually promised you squat and just told you to go Charlie ...

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Also I'm going to say that asking for it to be "officially valid" is kinda weird - if someone does something like launch the shuttle early nearly leaving you on station/actually leaving your colleagues on station/etc for no good reason then I feel like it's pretty intuitive that you might ...

Why does the logo have two sets of bridges for the glasses

I will note as a general precedent that votes (even vague ones promising "memes") have generally been seen as sufficient justification if successful to unleash otherwise unacceptable button pressing upon the station. Whether this button pressing was within those bounds, or the vote was suf...

I think people tend to forget that this is a game based on the roleplay that arises from a space station being struck by disaster, not a game based on gaming out how you can most effectively ensure that redtext appears before you've even seen someone with a shifty look about them, much less an actua...

Armour is a bad example because armour is a roundstart, equipped item for security so there's nothing "pre-emptive" about it on the players part.

It's debatable if this would apply to that rule or not. It's also not good to entirely dismiss something because it conflicts with a rule. The rules page isn't the bible, they aren't perfect or always right and what's good for the game. Hence why this subforum exists. I was responding to OP who see...

The Rules wrote:Non-antagonists are not allowed to pre-emptively search for, hinder or otherwise seek conflict with antagonists without reasonable prior cause.

re: Headmins in charge of codebase (I'm paraphrasing but this is what I've mainly taken away from this discusssion) - Headmins already have enough workload and headaches being just in charge of the administration. Adding every code controversy, small or large, to their plate would just enhance burno...

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