/tg/Station 13

GamerAndYeahMick

the issue with you making a policy thread is that it's already against policy to harass people FNR with admin tooling though is the point so the only real way to address such an issue would be an admin complaint in which the specific admin is likely to address it or add context

GamerAndYeahMick

What makes you think its random You don't get to hide behind this when there's absolutely nothing around the smites in question via logging that indicates they did something worth being randomly griefed by an admin. I'm not hiding behind anything, I am asking you so I can see what context prompted ...

GamerAndYeahMick

What makes you think its random

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I don't think bringing two extremes together will at all make a healthy middle ground it will just be two bickering parents fighting with each other whilst people who can enjoy both experiences are in the bathroom locked in crying

GamerAndYeahMick

headmin pick genuinely is unlikely to be someone who already was headmin btw (they could do it but I doubt they'd do that)

GamerAndYeahMick

what explanation is needed other than it's fucking hillarious

GamerAndYeahMick

I have come to the conclusion that disallowing streaming is for the better

GamerAndYeahMick

thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:54 am i like murderbone

same though and I like being on both ends of it, and I think allowing it and putting up with the "bad" aspects of it is better than disallowing it and putting up with the bad aspects of it being disallowed

GamerAndYeahMick

dude one tile breach in fucking chem means the whole station is glowing red and on covid quarantine lockdown, you literally can't even play the game anymore, it's not just something that you need to overcome it's something that many times you CAN'T overcome unless you powergame a stupid crowbar shif...

GamerAndYeahMick

discord jannie is the worst admin institution free oranges

GamerAndYeahMick

In general, if maintainers or admins or whomever are going to push for changes based on "TG being an MRP codebase", then we should either update the rules and policy to reflect that or we should drop the argument entirely. You can't have it both ways. Them designing the game to be less li...

GamerAndYeahMick

No one in one side of the community wants to deal with all the people who want to disable x antag every other month, and no one in the other side wants to deal with john murderbone. It's perfectly fine to have two different rulesets catered for different people. Nothing is wrong but the mentality be...

GamerAndYeahMick

Nope. On the other servers we like it how it is, if you don't want to play them then just play manuel/campbell.

GamerAndYeahMick

I am flattered. My prediction is fikou

GamerAndYeahMick

I barely know who Timonk is but this is actually a pretty unfair punishment in my opinion. The appropriate punishment would be to smite/fuck around with Timonk ingame as much as the admin pleases. A note might be appropriate, but a 2-week ban is gratuitous overkill, and tenfold so if it's a first-t...

GamerAndYeahMick

tgstation13.org, am I the asshole?

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legal issues tm

GamerAndYeahMick

There is obviously times when an admin should step in and a time when players should step in, all I'm proposing is that we don't need to make a policy for every single thing all the time I mean we already have threads opened about sec metaprot etc etc sometimes an admin complaint is better or someth...

GamerAndYeahMick

This is insanely broad, I don't know how you expect anyone to make a hard ruling. Generally security should be kept in a higher standard than normal players though can security tide? sure, can they be treated as anyone else for it? yes removing special security expectations turns everything into bi...

GamerAndYeahMick

lets just remove the situation from the policy altogether, my opinion is this, can security tide? sure, can they be treated as anyone else for it? yes, should we encourage heads of staff to demote people and give a guide to players on how they could to react to situations like this, probably yeah, w...

GamerAndYeahMick

Farquaar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:41 am Can I just say that GAYM's avatar is hilarious and enhances all of his posts by several orders of magnitude? I just can't look away. It's captivating.

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GamerAndYeahMick

if you go against my feelings on a given matter you are automatically a manuelmin

GamerAndYeahMick

so mah nuts fit in your mouth armhulen?

GamerAndYeahMick

problem with oranges idea is that you can metagame who the antagonist is, it should random name the next round

GamerAndYeahMick

mods ban timonk from posting in this peanut this is an order

GamerAndYeahMick

Hello somah has contacted me to confirm I am indeed not him

GamerAndYeahMick

Idk I kinda feel like peanuts are for the community to discuss ongoings not for the involved parties to hash out arguments that can be had in ban appeals

GamerAndYeahMick

Security may not seize anything that was not used to commit a crime and is not illegal to possess. This means Security can't take your insuls, your medical supplies, your unarmed/nonlethal mech. It is illegal to possess a weapon, so Security can take your improvised baton, your bottle of lexorin, y...

GamerAndYeahMick

This could apply to chemistry producing bombs and sec getting involved too though. A lot of this is going to be very dependent on the context of the situation which everyone's going to have different limited perspectives of at the time. Sure there is nuance to everything but the logs paint the secu...

GamerAndYeahMick

Seems a tad metagame and powergame to me to pre emptively destroy something that is the one of the interesting draws to robotics and takes a long time to create on the off chance that they MIGHT kill you, so I don't really agree with the admin in this circumstance, also you can see that security are...

GamerAndYeahMick

Let's remove all antagonists from Manuel and make it even less interesting to play on... Or how about people stop making silly threads asking to disable antagonists for the mrp server which is both counter intuitive to creating more/unique scenarios for roleplay and creating an enjoyable environment...

GamerAndYeahMick

Using what metaprotection? This is a misunderstanding of the scope and extent of a meta protection. Meta protection only covers people doing their job not people stealing and being violent when they can use non lethals

GamerAndYeahMick

it's a bad exploit because someone being invincible removes everyone else's god given right to erase their existence, also you have to look at it in totality its not just a one off how many times can one man need to be told to stop no janitor wants to dedicate all their time asking athath to stop fo...

GamerAndYeahMick

oranges and burgerman swimming in the sea
Qbmax drinking some pee
First comes nerfs then comes marriage
Then comes maintainers in the coder carriage

GamerAndYeahMick

certified timonk moment

GamerAndYeahMick

You don't need another admin to step in to handle this, you're acting in an admin capacity and someone is unable to not act like a 12 year old whilst you're trying to sort stuff out so you just ban them from being able to be part of those admin events (so they don't waste other admins time) very sim...

GamerAndYeahMick

read this appeal and I think the banning admin keeps taking every point or context surrounding why things happened and putting them into their simplest form and ignoring any context to why they happened to justify keeping the ban

GamerAndYeahMick

no. I would rather have no list AT ALL of things that people could use to justify going around validing everyone, they just should just take it on a case by case basis themselves and justify their level of violence if need be, clearly whenever someone tries to get a rise out of you with their negati...

GamerAndYeahMick

Also the spirit of that rule is to stop playing admins from re-adminning and banning your ass because they are PERSONALLY involved in the ongoings of the round, whenever they are already acting in an admin capacity - A DM role for an Epic Runescape Troll event doesn't really count as that

GamerAndYeahMick

Getting annoyed at someones bad behavior in a ghost role that you gave to them because SHOCKER they are being annoying, who said you can't get annoyed, it's just not wrong or badminnery to stop them from taking further admin event roles, brainworms on your end

GamerAndYeahMick

Autocall is meh just end the round

GamerAndYeahMick

laughable to say its admin misconduct really, the point was they can't be trusted with admin event spawns so they got banned from it, it's a far different story than getting permabanned for killing an admin in maint

GamerAndYeahMick

while talking occasionally BRAINS is blurted out, meaning that while important, brains is not all zombies care about

This poster has absolutely zero idea what they're talking about.

BRAIIIIIIINS BRAIIIIIIINS BRAIIIIIIINS

GamerAndYeahMick

anyone who hates revs hates ss13 and should leave

GamerAndYeahMick

Dumb appeal

GamerAndYeahMick

I approve of this and all good methods that admisitration can take to remind people they don't have to suffer in silence and can beat these peoples asses

GamerAndYeahMick

Will the thread be closed now that mrstonedone has basically given his ruling?

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Valorium wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:32 pm Manuel is good though

Native Manuellian. Ignore me.

GamerAndYeahMick

Fart smella

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Smart fella

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