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Captain is not Head of Security. Hope this helps! im just stealing my reply to the policy discussion thread here: A sea captain, ship's captain, captain, master, or shipmaster, is a high-grade licensed mariner who holds ultimate command and responsibility of a merchant vessel. The captain is respon...

I really don't know why captain players have such an obsession with needing to kill/hunt antags. They are not any more security than HoPs are, yet we're constantly dunking on hopcurity but as soon as a captain, who has completely unfettered access to the station and is usually carrying around the nu...

Bmonathan is really digging their heels in on this one holy moly Because they know they're right. There is no actual precedent on captain on RSR 4 AND RSR 9. Whether Captain can't take part in security matters if the station is not in danger has never been debated up to this point, indeed, this is ...

BonChoi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:40 pm Bmonathan is really digging their heels in on this one holy moly

Because they know they're right.

Were you ever able to get into the server? SS13 server? Yep, no problems with that. Discord? nope, was only going to try the "secondary account only for tg-cord" thing if I was explicitly told that was fine, but nothing else has worked. I don't see an issue with it but let me get with the...

Were you ever able to get into the server?

A Nerd.

Hey gamer, I'm gonna go ahead and close this up if we haven't seen a reply in the next 48 hours.

This isn’t how the conflict plays out. Either they screech that they are being killed and a Borg intervenes Skill issue, remove their headset before you execute them. or they law 2 a borg while being dragged to the brig. Skill issue, countermand their order. "Borg, I'm not harming them, I'm ar...

This isn’t how the conflict plays out. Either they screech that they are being killed and a Borg intervenes Skill issue, remove their headset before you execute them. or they law 2 a borg while being dragged to the brig. Skill issue, countermand their order. "Borg, I'm not harming them, I'm ar...

Jacquerel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:20 pm While the separation is absolute, there is also an alternate code solution PR open right now
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/81717

This was merged, we can close the thread.

Let it be known that I didn't lock the appeal

Probable cause isn't something we want to or need to rigidly define That makes sense, but it's also not what I was looking for. I was thinking of something simple like "Alert level bag search restrictions are enforceable". Policy changes must be done via a thread in the Policy Discussion ...

There needs to be a way for admins to reach out to players without it feeling accusatory. I'm a big proponent of players needing to understand that not every interaction with an admin is going to lead to punishment. There's not much we can really do about that - I try to lead every interaction I ha...

Did I take crazy pills this morning? MULTIPLE doxxing incidents? How the fuck was this appeal accepted? It's worth noting that I had a fairly involved conversation with crossedfall (the host of Bee) where he told me that Darkbitt had come back to play there under the name Absolucy with their permis...

I am simultaneously impressed by dendy's diligence and worried that she will burn herself out. I think that Dendy's going to do really well as a head admin. They have a lot of patience and I expect them to handle most issues with grace and care, even when dealing with the most problematic of players.

iain0 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:22 pm Damnit vekter

Fine, works for me if merged, cheers all.

Owned.

You should be unbanned. I don't know the name of all of your alts, so if you're unable to connect, let me know. Question, is the discord ban separate, or was it just linked to the server ban / blacklist? The Discord ban would likely be due to the blacklist, but I cannot remove it. I'll ask the Disc...

You should be unbanned. I don't know the name of all of your alts, so if you're unable to connect, let me know. Question, is the discord ban separate, or was it just linked to the server ban / blacklist? The Discord ban would likely be due to the blacklist, but I cannot remove it. I'll ask the Disco...

Around 2020~ or so, I kinda... started struggling with mental and emotional turmoil, which led to some issues like the aforementioned doxxing incident (which I am greatly embarrassed about), however due to eventually (irl) properly addressing the issues, and also kinda just generally growing up, I'...

Yup, I got pinged about it this morning and promptly missed it because I woke up with a migraine. Anyway, your history is really fucking rough. Like, I think you understand the problem in that you had some really major violations in the past, up to and including being banned from multiple servers fo...

I'll let MSO know that you've appealed again.

I believe we came to the consensus last night in admin bus that they are not full antags, but that taking actions against the station would likely be permissible depending on context.

Security's job is to arrest lawbreakers, we shouldn't be forcing them to delegate their entire job to admins just because the assistant who punched the captain will seek shelter with an angry mob when they turn up to brig him for 2 minutes. Playing the game shouldn't be a box ticking exercise where...

Asimov silicons can punish human harmers. This includes non humans that harm humans, who can even be killed. A bit off topic, but where is the line here? If a lizard was just punching a human and borg lethaled the lizard, I'd fully expect the borg to be bwoinked for that (Maybe I'm wrong expecting ...

Why is ekaterina pushing the implications of abuse against Iansdoor at the same time providing delayed evidence that they wern't playing in a lame and punishable way. Because ekaterina is convinced that the admin team has it out for them. That's why I won't handle any issues involving them - I don'...

tl;dr I think the rules kind of already cover this, but I also don't think this should be solved by policy because the idea of Security needing to work together to arrest a single person in a group and deal with the fallout from it makes for a more interesting interaction than just citing the rules...

I'm for this as a wording change as long as it wouldn't result in us changing how we currently handle this. I feel like current policy is fine regarding the topic.

Let's post the actual part of the rules we're discussing real quick: 6. Security meta-protections rely on adherence to Space Law. Security acting within the constraints of space law are afforded a level of OOC protection against retaliation/escalation compared to regular crewmembers. And thus, the r...

yeat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:02 pm I would like to be unbanned on my ckey Yeat because i don't have access to funnyfortniteman69 anymore. Thank you

You're not banned on Yeat, so go with God, I guess?

I'll modify your ban on funnyfortniteman69 so it doesn't trigger anything on Yeat but you should be good.

So you can stand near an antagonist and not harm them then ahelp when that antagonist gets bombed despite knowingly having the best equipment to fight them and refusing to use that equipment? So in general youre only impact on the round is to give an antagonist meta protection against anything that...

I feel everyone in that room was valid, vibing in close proximity to a group of antagonists that has wiped half the station makes you appear evil and even if I saw that shaft miner I would have purposefully killed him, This is not how validity works; people are not just magically valid because they...

Timber unbanned you

Okay, sounds good. I take it you want to be unbanned on funnyfortniteman69?

Sounds good. They also reported that your note history has been clean over the last 11 months, so that's a very good sign. I'm willing to give you another shot if you understand that any future violations of rule 2 (Do not use information gained outside of in-character means) will result in another ...

A Nerd

They REALLY don't want to get a vouch from another server. https://centcom.melonmesa.com/viewer/view/genesisgamer They are probably banned on every server at this point so they can't get a vouch. Additionally, here's the ban reason for one of his alts: Ban-evading alt of rollhamice/Thunderdomeking3...

Okay, so Yog got back to us about this. They said you used to be a mentor on Yeat from March until August.

Yog's mentor list thread wrote:Yeat Quit stworldcitizen#0924 (957714824568143953) 10/03/2023 10/08/2023

(Info from here, dates appear to be in UK format.)

Can you tell me why you quit being a mentor?

Hey gamer, Armhulen retired a while back so I'll take this. Let me reach out to Yog and confirm that you're a mentor/have no glaring issues; if I can confirm that, I think I'm cool letting you have a second chance.

TL;DR: If you have a problem with an event, it no longer goes here. Use Event Workshop for critique and ideas, use admin feedback to talk about a specific admin's events, and use singulo to bitch. Remember you can also talk to any admin by adminhelping, finding an admin you trust and PMing them or ...

Timonk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:37 am Honestly if you find a way to break into centcom just tell the exploit after and you are fine

It's me, obviously.

I get where you're coming from, and I respect your decision. TG's my jam, though, and it's hard to imagine finding the same vibe elsewhere. If there's any wiggle room to sort things here, I'm all for proving I've changed. Let me know if we can work something out. Thanks for listening. I recommend t...

Archie700 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:17 am Since Melbert is going to codify this through a rework this discussion will be closed if Melbert's PR merges

It merges.

Ghommie merged 4 commits into tgstation:master from MrMelbert:vday_rework

See you August 18

For record's sake, head admins have given endersub9 permission to handle all bans against GenesisGamer's accounts as the original admin who banned the vast majority of them (Phuzzylodgik) has been MIA/busy with IRL issues.

I'm going to send this to endersub9 to have them look at it, but please understand the following: You have a list of accounts you've used to evade over the last few years roughly a mile and a half long. I need to know exactly which account your first one is for us to actually sit down and untangle t...

Alright, you're unbanned. Let me know if you have trouble connecting.

Discord's Community Guidelines have the following to say on the subject: Do not threaten to harm another individual or group of people. This includes direct, indirect, and suggestive threats. We have already had issues with users violating the Community Guidelines on our server and have seen other s...

You're also unbanned.

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