/tg/Station 13

I mentioned this and was told that making multiple versions of the safety diamond wasn't worth the extra work for a wall fluff item.

With the reply from Mindstormy, I flip my position. The borg's actions paint a picture of trying to get revenge for being borged and to attempt being returned to humanoid form. The note should be updated, though, as it currently implies the borg did nothing but yell out over common. Warning the crew...

Generally you should subvert the silicons if they're gonna know you're a harmful traitor. https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/326822144233439242/831037630774378546/unknown.png To be fair, I did just tell an emagged borg over binary to kill someone Borging someone you k...

when you guys say it suffers a lot from highpop, are you saying that because theres some sort of issue you believe is a result of the map not being able to fit the amount of players (if so, can you put these into something tangible that isnt "oh it just isnt suitable at this pop")? Is the...

Command/Sec conflicts with the silicons/AI is like half the point of using Asimov as the lawset. In a way, it serves as an IC incentive for security to attempt nonlethal arrests when server policy otherwise allows them to arm up to the teeth and lethal the hell out of any crewmember that so much as ...

We could limit players to a single golem body per round. Similar code is in place for Ash Lizards. If we do want to make golems never reach the station, a code solution is better than flufftext. Perhaps make free golems take a constant damage over time when on any space Z level and call it "Low...

I still think we should have a basic "Quick-start" guide that players can go over if they're new to the roll but just got thrown into an MMI. In a hurry? Just got borged unexpectedly? Here's the basics. This list doesn't overrule the rest of Silicon Policy, but it should keep you out of tr...

The crux of the issue seems to be "is the law 'Yeah go do whatever' actually purged, and if not can I use it to justify plasma flooding the station". I personally cannot see how "Yeah go do whatever" is anything but a (somewhat) creatively-worded purge law. But aside from that, I...

Its already in silicon policy, AI do not need to follow orders to depower/suicide while on basic asimov or equivalent. Shame it happened, but this discussion is moot. Where in silicon policy is it? I don't see a ruling to this effect. The rule specifically states as follows; Ordering silicons to ha...

Yeah, alright. You did a dumb thing, don't do it again, etc. By the by, in the time since this ban was made we've had the introduction of a new rule (eleven, specifically) that would have been relevant if this incident had happened today. It's probably not a bad idea for you to get re-antiquated wit...

Seems to me that it would be fine if the ten-codes were like appended to the space law page, so that you could use the books to translate. That said, none of the original reasons the ten-codes were developed apply to SS13 (outside maybe goof's mumble voice chat project), and apparently their use is ...

I thought the "ahelp when this happens" part was so the admin involved could make a call on whether or not the selfkill request was valid or not. Making an interaction dependant on an admin being available is a bad idea for a number of reasons. Primarily, we have antagonists way more ofte...

Am I the only admin that enjoys not flipping through three tabs to find the verb I need?

The only thing that bugs me is Tickets being the last tab.

Pirates mass murdering is about sending a message , nothing more. The crew committed to this course of action when they refused to pay the initial ransom. The initial message even mentions making people "walk the plank" if the money isn't surrendered, and does not actually specify anyone ...

If a player is dead, AFK, or suicides before that point, no antag rep is gained for that round. There are very, very few cases on a regular round where someone will be dead by that point in time unintentionally, unless they're A: Baiting the crew into murdering them. B: Extremely unlucky due to an ...

No, removal of ions would almost necessitate a swift nerf to borgs. It's better that we have clear counters. Also, until mechs get the Ol' Yeller treatment, ions are intentionally a counter to them. Yes, mechs can be "hard to stop" , but they still need proper counters. I actually intentio...

Suicide verb is an OOC button and I don't think any admin would bwoink an AI for depowering (or borg for sitting in front if an emitter) instead of clicking the suicide verb. Especially since the suicide verb has OOC consequences (no taking a posi, and eventually barring all other ghost roles). TBH ...

Ash lizard text does specifically say you're allowed to invade. Best practice for ghost roles would probably be ahelping to ask if the flavor text doesn't mention the station.

Fun fact -- the comms agent gets a voice changer, and the AI clicking their name will jump the camera to anyone on cameras that has the same name (ie, a crew member the comms agent is impersonating). Thus, the ability to see the requester, or lack thereof, is irrelevant. Anyway, if this is Manuel, t...

Code-wise, we could just remove the suicide verb from silicons. Ghosting doesn't deny the AI theft objective, I believe, so if you're in some traitor's pocket and it's boring as all hell, you could probably ghost out without issue.

Right, so. The issue wasn't that hulk could break a reinforced wall. The issue was that hulk could keep breaking reinforced walls forever. Unless they spaced a department, it wasn't really actionable as far as adminning is concerned, but if you tried to use violence to stop a hulk tearing down your ...

Yo, Zxaber here, I was the one that recommended this ban. In hindsight, a permaban was perhaps overzealous. However, I did base the recommendation off both a prior warning for the exact same behavior, and also off your "colorful" name choices that had also gotten you a talking-to from othe...

Selling power for cash would be best accomplished by capacitor bank structures that function similarly to gas canisters, being wrenchable to a base connected to a powernet for charging (or discharging). That way you would include Cargo in the selling process.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/catfishing-is-it-considered-criminal-fraud-48440 Here is a good read about the topic. As per your own link, lying about your identity is only legally an issue in conjunction with other crimes. If this person actually committed a crime in conjuction with their lie, ...

So basically, turn mining into factorio.

Let's do it.

2. Baystation: Cyborg magnetic manipulator, and plasteel synthesizer Engineering cyborgs receive a magnetic manipulator. This allows them to pick up and place exotic floortiles and sheets. The plasteel synthesizer makes it possible to actually repair things like reinforced walls among other things....

Reeeee wrote: I'll admit to not reading the situation wrong i guess but i don't have a health hud as a borg.

I don't get it, does Libby actually not know about the sensors button?

Swing melee sounds dope. If you're swinging an item that's large/long enough to get a multi-tile hit area, it should clonk against walls if you're next to one and fail to actually hit anything. Could do neat things like making deswords nonviable in small 1-tile-wide maint passages. OTOH, a method to...

Being prepared and willing to stand against the corrupt elements of the police force isn't the same as burning random cars in the streets and destroying businesses in the community. The cops don't really care if you hit yourself repeatedly, after all, except possibly as an excuse to join in on hitti...

I like it spawning in the cap's quarters becasue when the heads of staff inevitability ignore my requests to secure the disk I have an excuse to be passive agressive about it and bolt the cap's quarters open for anyone to enter. Bolting open the bridge or path to CE's office just doesn't carry the s...

Friendly ash walker is not a gimmick and those who attempt it should be ghost role banned. This interaction kinda makes me with this wasn't the case, it prevents this kind of situation in favor of more deathmatch gameplay. Nothing actually says the ash walkers have to kill anyone. Their goal is mor...

haha I'm so clever.

Walking into the armory as a non-sec member (unless sec has made it clear that you're allowed in) makes you a valid kill. Just because you give yourself all access does not mean you have permission to be there. If you're the acting captain, it's a bit different, but in that case it's still your resp...

This still seems like a solution searching for a problem to me. I don't really know why the current system needs to be changed. Making the default law boards limited use will probably just result in more purged-and-done fixes, since purged AIs aren't allowed to act as antags. Maybe they won't give u...

I am like 99% certain that the strange potion used to change your displayed species to "angel". Still, the point is that medical scanners do not show you as human (and instead a human-derived mutant). Getting cat ears sewn on doesn't change this, so you'd still be human. When in doubt, ref...

Maybe crowbarring assemblies could make the door visually open and passable? Additionally, doors reduced to assembly by explosives could automatically be placed in open mode.

If a majority of the players feel that a role is worthless without antag, I could see it possibly causing issues with people metagaming the role as antags, but I don't know if there's any reason to believe that will be the case. Even with roles like Viro, I assume that if the Viro-Only-As-Antag play...

24/7 Dynamic is the reason I left bagil for sybil. It causes rounds to pretty much run at a breakneck pace and gets old quickly. Dynamic in a normal rotation would be fine; it does mix things up and helps combat the idea that "it's revs" means the other heads are 100% trustworthy. But 24/7...

A fix has been merged that prevents borg syncing to AIs on other Z levels entirely. The two exceptions are if the borg and AI are both on a station Z level (to accommodate multi-Z stations), and borg machines (which bypass the normal sync process entirely).

If we make the emag have a recharge delay or limited use, please don't tie emagging other things to it. I'd hate for the other uses of emags to be nerfed just because we decided to keep door breaking. As an aside, it'd be neat if broken airlocks could be crowbared into a open and passible state. The...

>Just sits and screeches about human harm >While in control of the basically all the station's mechanical and computer-controlled functions Do you even firelock, bro? Asimov is fun because it makes the AI's goals different than the Heads of Staff and/or Security. Any lawset that doesn't care about p...

Making borgs unable to autosync (or even manual sync) with AIs on other Z levels has been something I've been meaning to do for a while. Generally after the ~10 minute mark I start manually syncing borgs to the station AI to avoid them being synced to a golem AI, and removing that possibility has be...

Science only gets so many anomalies. What makes you think they'll give sec any?

While requiring an unsafe and risky supermatter setup to farm anomalies is fun (and it really is fun), it's important to remember that a full delam usually results in a shuttle call within a fairly short amount of time. Influencing engineers to try to hold a supermatter at half integrity (where ther...

The idea I was throwing around is to have a "detonation chamber" machine, in which a bomb is placed as well as the raw anomalous matter obtained from the SM process in the OP. The bomb would then be "detonated" off-screen and with no damage to the room the detonation chamber is i...

Capes sound like a disadvantage for someone expecting hand-to-hand combat. Easy to grab and possibly pull the wearer off-balance.

I feel the exact opposite. After all the time using the clunky PDA interface, tablets are an absolute joy.

better yet don’t let posibrains fit in mechs Code solution, but if we do that we need to add posis to the list of silicon ban roles. It's annoying enough when a posi wakes up and is unborgable due to a silicon ban, but at least I can shove them into a mining mech and send them off to go be producti...

Technically making meth (or possessing it, anyway) is a crime and you can totally be arrested by sec for that. But I don't think I've ever seen sec arrest anyone for making meth except when the chemist refuses to share it. If we wanted realism, there would be a way to disable someone's ID access rem...

Engineer cyborgs get a sheet snatcher 9000 For what purpose? The sheet snatcher doesn't allow for the sheets to actually be used by the borg, and if they're going to be handed off to a human there are plenty of silo-connected machines scattered around the station to make the trip fairly short. If y...

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