/tg/Station 13

I'd say a big part of it is the fact that you can see what happens in R&D, and there are a lot of things you can get from science's protolathe that are completely non-harmful. Considering you can watch them and see what they get means you can always alert sec if they print out something dangerou...

For the record, sometime last year I played robo moth for a few days. Welding was difficult, but not impossible; double eye protection is a pain to manage but totally doable. For the plasmas, robotics has a pair of welding goggles, and I bet anyone in engineering/atmos could grab a hardsuit and head...

I was science's sec officer for that round. The miner literally only wanted access to R&D to push some buttons (guess they didn't trust science to get mining tech done). In addition, the RD, who is the head of the department, told you multiple times that you needed to give access if requested be...

Could only affect the computer you emag, not all others. Of Course, that makes the hand-held ones even more valuable.

I'm not a fan of being able to remotely affect people without counterplay. Randomly changing peoples suit sensors would feel more like a bug than any sort of entertaining gameplay.

As an AI, if someone has no arrest record, and I have no knowledge of any harm they've committed or had personally watched sec arrest them, I'll presume they wandered into a cell by mistake and happily let them out if asked.

Were you the miner that came into Robo the other day? L.U.B.E. told you that thing was probably trouble.

Thoughts on the disembodied idea: • Any ability that lets your vessel know that they are assimilated will lead to them calling you out over comms and also de-assimilating if possible. This is an existing issue with Mind Control; if a hivemind must Mind Control a vessel, it is in their best interest ...

Hivemind is seemingly built around abilities that kill (or allow for killing) with no possible reaction from the victim. It feels bad when you're just some random crew member and suddenly die. It would feel terrible if that happened while you're a traitor. I think keeping it confined to its own game...

I'd argue that if making a law that de-humanizes the crew is considered harmful (or at least necessary to prevent), so would be changing them into non-humans.

Not all of policy leads to, or is driven by, bans. Upping the playtime for heads is a good idea. The point is not to ensure that the heads are competent, but to promote it. It is more likely that a player with 20 hours of engineering can set up the SM than one with only an hour. While we're at it, l...

Goof, the antag is not a conversion for the most part. It becomes conversion if one hivemind manages to get the victory royal against the others. The fact that it's not a conversion is a big part about why it's terrible if you ask me. Kenny tried so hard to make it a non-conversion antag that it jus...

4. Hold Ctrl to buckle, don't hold to open equipment menu. Personally I don’t think borgs should be able to buckle people onto themselves at all. It's got uses that make it handy. Sometimes a borg will want to hurry a human out of danger or get them to the shuttle quickly or something. Dragging them...

I have noticed that with the Sseth tide, it's very comon for borgs to never ever talk over, or respond to, binary chat. It gets old really quick.

Truth be told, I'm not a huge fan of the glowshroom idea. It sorta invalidates engineering if you can just break the laws of thermodynamics and get free power across the station. The Shadowshrooms seem neat, but it's hard to think of a time that it would be useful except for traitors. Maybe as a tat...

Just throw more math at it. Instead of Y=x/5 , we could have something closer to y=x/(5+0.05x) scaling antags.png In this way, we get a smooth curve that tapers off a bit as we reach higher player counts. The coefficient scales up with player count. Assuming the antag code rounds up (which I suspect...

Would these be random-spawned trauma events? Because the random brain trauma is absolute aids and should never be looked to for ideas.

As a possible side effect to certain in-game things (like overdoses), these could be neat.

I'd be happy if someone would just make a Ratvar AI hologram. I mean, we already have one for Narsie.

Do you have the standalone Discord program installed? What happens if you try to add the server there?

After spending a few days causally reading basically everything on the Wiki, I remember starting as a janitor, and spending a while learning how the hands and inventory work in the janitor closet. I checked out the janitor tablet that you start with, and joined the chat room but no one else ever did...

Yeah, it does sound like it would cause even more issues with escalation. Considering you wouldn't be able to bring a plasmaman back, would any fight that involves killing a plasmaman be treated the same as if they had intentionally cremated them? It would be neat if plasmamen had alternative method...

If this feature was put in place, I'd prefer if Asimov still had a higher weight by far. That way it's an occasional departure from Asimov rather than being a constant grab bag of laws.

And most important of all, if this were to be merged, you better either give humans a massive buff, massive nerfs to nonhumans, or straight up remove nonhumans. After all, you’re stripping humans of their single advantage over all other species: asimov protection. I don't know how much we really ca...

I should really ask why you want the alert levels to be tied to in-game mechanics. As is, it's mostly a RP thing (I've seen captains get livid when the HoS executes a tator on green alert, for example), with the sole exception that the shuttle timer is controlled by the red alert. Do we really want ...

So what you're saying is we toggle red alert at the start of the game to give sec their gear, then lower it to blue immediately after and never touch it until the shuttle is called?

Plus, maybe not resting might be seen as an act of compliance and make it less likely that the officer will just gat you for thinking you're trying to escape.

Unless you've given the silicons IC reason to believe the re-education chamber is a source of harm, they should have let it be. The whole reason that room exists is so that Security can do their thing without the AI getting nosy. Honestly, we should have a policy thread on that, because that ruling ...

Lumbermancer wrote: You have a confirmed traitor, who just murdered a sec officer. Sec officer was non-human. You bolt down the traitor. Traitor tells you to release him. What do you do?

I probably wouldn't even bolt him down. I might tell sec their lizard died.

Which are the current offenders? Hiveminds can assimilate people with zero tells except if you notice them not moving, and the only real way to stop it is by avoiding everyone . Meanwhile, mind control can be used on vesels once the Hivemind has enough. This lead to the "Airlock Walkies" ...

Probably depends on what you want the outcome to be. If the person came back, then a code change to make the body waiting for them be Rev would probably suffice. But there's no amount of code that can pull someone back in, and if you want to fix people just leaving and not returning, a policy of ban...

Does signaling the wires actually work? I swear I tried it once in a test server and couldn't get it to go off, concluding that some snowflake code was in place to prevent that sort of thing.

I still don't see this going anywhere. Paysations don't get used for a reason, and that reason is there's nothing of value to buy.

What am I supposed to spend my cash on, a funny hat?

I'm honestly baffled as to why borg players are fine with this, it seems like a really, really shitty combat method which isn't enjoyable for either party involved. Wouldn't my suggestion at least add some amount of flavor and skill to the process of fighting other borgs? No one likes inconsistenci...

I mean, it's not exactly rare for there to be no security team.

Just remove flashes stunning borgs :\/ It's a consequence of flashes being the main anti-borg tool. Making the flashes even more gimmicky than you're already doing is just going to lead to confusion. Borg v borg combat does suck, but it's generally rare enough that I wouldn't want to add a new layer...

I vaguely recall a PR shortly after crawling was added that made people lying down get hit by shots, because there was a meta for a short time where people would just lie down during gunfights to dodge all shots that weren't direct clicks. Positioning isn't really specified, but if the chap was in f...

The only thing I could see it breaking is admin-spawned ED-209 units if the admin intends it to act normal. Still, admins can always change the variable values on the ED, so it's only a problem if the admin in question doesn't know about the setting. Also, when you define the variable on the ED-209'...

For 1, a method less hacky would probably having the flag set to true by default, and is set to false during the final construction step. That way any non-standard ED-209 would have the flag set to true.

Operating the drill sounds wildly unfun. You have to trial-and-error a meaningless number (old old genetics), bang it with a tool you spawn with (old botany), and feed it resources you have an abundance of (manual xenobio, filling engineering's collectors, wiring the solars, etc). Oh and you're sur...

What if we made entire maps with one special game mode in mind? Like, instead of Metastation, you would be on Lavaland_Evac as the map, fully telling players before round start what the mode will be. This would let people who don't like the game mode at least skip it via observing or server-hopping....

It would also make it so that you could just tap-wait-tap-wait-tap (instead of holding the key down) to walk across a small field of janitor placed mop-mines, freeing up a hotkey, improving the control scheme a bit, and possibly repurposing the walk HUD button. I have a few other plans for it alrea...

It would also make it so that you could just tap-wait-tap-wait-tap (instead of holding the key down) to walk across a small field of janitor placed mop-mines, freeing up a hotkey, improving the control scheme a bit, and possibly repurposing the walk HUD button. I have a few other plans for it alrea...

I was under the impression chemists and botanists would be merged, not kept separate but occupying the same workspace. Keeping them seperate makes no sense, especially compared to scientists who are all together in a much larger area. Are you going to call security if a chemist starts growing plant...

Though it's more a code issue, perhaps nerfing assistants isn't the smartest idea?

How about making players unable to take more than one golem spawn? Seems like it would at least be a step towards preventing mass respawning grief without impacting most golem players.

Also, what would the resulting job be called, habitatists? Most jobs basically have the department name in the job name (engineer:engineering, geneticist:genetics, cargo technician:cargo, etc). Most departments have one job that shares the department name, but it's not necessarily the other way aro...

There may be repercussions to the QM being a head during Rev rounds. Whether it's good or bad, I have no idea. Not sure I like the name XenoBotany. It seems a bit forced, I suppose. What about Habitation Support, or just Habitation? The idea is that the department produces things mostly geared aroun...

I remember two distinct issues with drones; • Drones were allowed to fix the SM except if it was sabotaged. Sabotage and incompetence is not always easily distinguishable. It seems like we could totallt just add an item, built with common parts though the hand-craft system, that would disable nearby...

PKPenguin321 wrote:(although that's only on the forums/discord, a notable amount of people in OOC want gang back)

The same could be said about Clock Cult too, to an extent. Wanting it back isn't as much of a meme as wanting gangs back, but it would be easier to re-enable since most of the content is still in.

nullbear wrote: /datum/mob_effect/quirk/firstammendment
name = "First Ammendment" // Start with a small firearm unless you already would (sec/cap/etc.)
desc = "You keep a personal firearm handy. Even though its illegal."
value = 3

You're killing me, Smalls.

I would pay a bounty to anyone that gets Clock Cult back in (and stays in).

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