/tg/Station 13

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I'd say go all the way and just give the army a cool down after spawning things (so they don't spam) instead of a hard telecrystal limit.

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Don't send the team into maint, you aren't stealthy and that shit is basically all choke points leading to you getting picked off one by one.

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Vigilantism is a crime in real life and I advise it be treated as such in game.

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I think resist eventually gets you out of it? But you don't get a message that it is?

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Sounds reasonable even if I don't agree shotguns are better than an E-Guns.

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Guide to not having silicons not come down on your ass as human security. 1) Moderate the number of people you execute to a minimum. I personally almost always stick to this step. 2) Don't openly plot/plan/brag about how you are going to execute a criminal in front of a borg or other method the AI c...

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I think the bigger issue would be move speed nerf combined with untouched wizard transport spells means the crew is always arriving latter to the scene combined with more time to regen spells. I think wizards being strong is a good thing though.

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I really have not seen any anti sec behaviour stop, why care if you are a traitor when the most feared officer is an incompetent one and everyone is always ready to believe they are incompetent?

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For a certain value of armed, most of them have extinguishers or some other tool a few rarely have spears. An elite few grab the cells and have prods I guess but other jobs can make more prods.

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Yeah let's nerf lings even more. When 0 lings ever win our mission will be accomplished.

Lings can have each other as assassination targets many of them are very reluctant to actually use ling chat in the first place. Spending a point to interact with your potential killer? No one will buy that.

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We should have security numbers scale to population, like traitors. Something like 1 officer per 6 crew, with a minimum of 4. There is an in game force well placed and fully able to do this. He is called the Head of Personnel. Despite how beleaguered they usually are sec rarely asks for reinforceme...

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>Would it not just be the same security force, with the addition of antagonists doing antagonist shit as well? Like literally every other role on the station? >like literally every other role >every other role starts with stun gear >every other role can come up with legitimate excuses to arrest you...

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Syndibombs just can't compete with original flavour ttvs on the same menu especially at effectively same value for crystals, their every feature is either to make them inferior or be a crutch for their inferiority.

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I personally feel some of the worst rounds are created by weak antagonists. Why did research cult and old ling create some of the worst rounds ever? Because they had to do a ton of tedious nonsense to reach a position of strength where they felt they could win. Security and captain antags don't have...

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Never said my opinion was superior. Several people in favour of protect authority have told me I cannot even hold my opinion and have played the same game. Equating sec antag hysteria with fears over being murdered? Damn right I am none of these tales of dread have been about Officer McTraitor quiet...

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With internals masks and space/bio helmets providing a drat hard counter to being force fed the old start force feeding > be force fed interval is redundant and makes food and drinks absolute non threats. The absolute impracticality of waiting to remove up to two pieces of clothing then waiting to f...

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I just wanna poison people with food but hey, masks.

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>Sec/Captain antag rounds are FUN. each time I get sec antag I will proceed to powergame my very hardest- and I can powergame pretty fucking hard- to abuse sec antag and silently remove as many people from the round as I can. Do you want to experience that. Remember, you can't fight back and you'll...

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It could be interesting to restrict assistants to only appear once all station jobs have been taken. That would be horrible. You wanted to be the AI? Fuck you, you're a librarian. Ugh don't talk about librarian. Most depressing job full stop. The job where the biggest problem was those playing it b...

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Are the shotguns replacing the eguns the normal large type or will they fit in backpacks? Would hate for syndicate agents to have severe storage problems again.

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It don't mind mob fighting, it isn't hard it is rare that mob fighting actually kills me. It plainly has wrecked the miner pool and everything else in the update is so redundantly counter productive to the departments involved functioning it is too much too fast. Less ore to mine, harder to find, le...

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If a joining player sees a ridiculously high job count they will probably join in the spam. ID console could have changed everything but we couldn't let it because pansies. Imagine a 10 officer sec team THE LAW THE LAW THE LAW.

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I have experienced many messed up rounds, this idea you have that anyone who experienced a messed up round must hold the same self serving charge of the nerf brigade mentality as you is ridiculous.

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My byond account dates to January 5 2010. If you are going to do that elitism shtick at least do a little research like HG, rocks for brains.

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The game is asymmetrical there are so many easy circumstances for treason I don't see why I should care about just one. Dragging beepsky to murderbone? Even if you delete your own record they can create another and set you to arrest bam down for 2 minutes+. Protect auth from antag setting also appli...

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I have to say the point where I went "fuck this shit" and could not take it any more was when the ore smelter was wood barricaded off along with the entire ore transport system. Literally all the ore redeemer needs is the ability to create plassteel and it could replace the smelter and we ...

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Please officers can hardly work the sec records I think coding is beyond them. Would turning his patrol off and dragging him work?

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Well guess sec should make a habit of putting Ol' Beeper down behind the brig till this is fixed.

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Grey tiding is just a set of shitty behaviours you can perform in any job. I don't mind people behaving badly, in moderation.

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I wonder if tyrant is fine for this. I like it, but I feel the wording of the first law is a bit too loose, I would like "respect" to be replaced with "follow". Respecting someone doesn't really require any activity it is an emotional state. Lawset should be random so the AI isn'...

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paprika wrote:>Requires 3 people to work together
>Implying it shouldn't be robust as fuck

Three people are pretty robust on their own.

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It is a bit too weak. Construct mania was promising but I guess the new plas steel requirement and needing to research shells made it a bit harder to start up. The strength before was just riding on rev's coat tails though.

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The idea that surgical complications requirs a complete abolishment of simple application meds is absurd. We already have genetic damage something similar can be used on limbs easily all the meds heal specified types of health loss(just some more than others), medibots and wonder drugs can coexist w...

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Something is deeply wrong with me. I like frozen meal spinach pizza above all.

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Dark wraiths who never leveled up then used elemental weapons on new players was sorta counter intuitive to getting new players. With elemental weapons stat scaling now though and invasions toned down it seems unnecessary, I mean was the threat of raw weapons alone worth this roundabout solution?

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Personally I think things like gibonite and meson change have been good. Its just the almost fruitless and death-filled mining that makes it difficult to enjoy any more. Gibtonite and now with the mesons change equals invisible to mesons gibtonite which has made the ripley unusable. It was suboptim...

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The mining scanner stress-ball is one of the daftest things and now basic mesons are ghetto thermals again thanks to being able to see lights shifting (aka any sane person in the dark with their lights on) through walls. Spamming the use key all day makes the job more repetitive if anything I fail t...

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Of the sneaky impotent stuff I always liked voice changer and transform sting for causing chaos and framing people. Sadly speech bubbles on top of those stupid tracking links AIs get outing voice changing near instantly in addition to admins insisting that the meta of putting a failed channel tag in...

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Goon ling. Knock out stings and tracking spit. One cornered me in goon pathology (back when they had that) dodging those drat spits was actually thrilling. None of this IF THEY CONTROL EVERY WEAPON AND THE AI THEY ARE TOTES STRONK GUYS yeah anyone can look strong propped up on crutch mountain. Also ...

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Terbs gets it. Singulo barrelling through escape or a well placed bomb (ttv not weak ass synibomb) > some mook weeping in deadchat about how the mean antag sec killed him.

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Make death touch kill people who are in crit for thematics. Also if the lich touched them into negative max health a mercy on our bumbling med staff.

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I go with not causing harm is slightly higher priority than preventing harm due to you know the order they are placed in and also the futility of trying to do the second if you don't do the first. So unless the two idiots leave and let me release the burning clown I would have to let the clown die b...

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I run adp and rolling I frames work quite well. Then I run into 360 swinging weapons with my powerstancer and it is just ugh.

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You could say that about any emotional reaction to the game really. I never once used the word conspiracy, just it is pretty obvious that some people have more to gain from antag protecting than others and there is little reason they should not be aware of this.

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Start a folder collection. There are people who will attempt to kill you over a folder they had lying on a table and never would have touched themselves. Only player I have ever seen making good use of a folder was a detective totting an entire collection of nude selfies of the captain and his deputy.

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Since you are more likely to not be an antag than be one I see antag proofing positions as bland statistical power gaming. Also raising your own chance of being antagonist slightly if you don't play the proofed positions.

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