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Na, i think it doesn't logically fit the definition of bigotry or homophobia to say "what are you faggots playing" and i'll never be against that kind of friendly ironic usage. I think it doesn't logically fit the definition of bigotry or racism to scream the nword into the void and will n...

I want to see more anti-bigots.

agreed

More anti-bigoted language advocates.

very fucking strongly disagree.

Vekter is inside the bubble

given they are the one who made the "what are you faggots playing" thread 10 years ago.

do you want tgstation to garner negative opinions and judgements from people who actually care about their friends and neighbors and choose not to support, endorse or play on servers that are okay with hateful language and -isms. I don't play around with guilt by association bullshit. If they choos...

right now, the question that pertains to this thread is whether or not you want tgstation to garner negative opinions and judgements from bigots and racists and /pol/brained people who think we're cringe normies for standing up for vulnerable people, or do you want tgstation to garner negative opin...

but as someone who has done the exact same thing in the past, i dont think lashing out and going "fuck the normies, fuck the overly sensitive people, we're going to be allowed to yell slurs because otherwise we'll be sanitized" but I have never said that. And as long as people like you ke...

Alright that doesn't explain how the term jannie by itself is also against transgender persons. I was trying to brainstorm that they rhyme but that apparently isn't what you're basing it off of? they said at the top of this page: Not just jokes, "Jokes" akin to [...] Coming up with nickna...

Funny enough, I was not actually referring to ligger here! I was actually referring to "Jannies", which originated on 4chan boards for their hatred of both board janitors and trans people. (I'm pretty sure "Jannies" comes from SomethingAwful and is unrelated to trans slurs based...

"the ligger word" - yes, this is not bigotry, it is not motivated by bigotry, it will never be motivated by bigotry, and every time you try to argue it is you lose all of my respect. Funny enough, I was not actually referring to ligger here! I was actually referring to "Jannies"...

I love when people point to their skin color as a shield like that means something.

"ok, assuming you are black: get the fuck out of here with that uncle tom ass shit."

Ziiro wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:59 pm Re: "Is Dave Chapelle a black on black bigot?" is a discourse I'm not going to touch, but I can tell you he's a transphobic piece of shit NIMBY, lmao.

Dave chappelle is not transphobic and this is 100% a hill i will die on.

He is 100% a nimby thou.

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:44 pm talsk like a duck, walks like a duck… bigotry is not some cartoonish villain that has lines in the sand drawn. nobody is immune to propaganda. nobody is immune to bias. welcome to being human

MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:24 pm
Calling somebody a serious accusation as bigot or racist or sexist

MUST
HAVE
ZERO
FALSE
POSITIVES.

"we should just blindly call people a serious accusation because if we are wrong they will just learn to watch what they say more" just don't say slurs, it isn't that hard Calling somebody a serious accusation as bigot or racist or sexist MUST HAVE ZERO FALSE POSITIVES. "telling joke...

In my opinion we dont need to become ”woke” or ”normie” in order to ban slurs, just issue a blanket startment ”no racial slurs” and I am sure people would be fine with it. I am fine with having discussions about it but I see no reason to say a racial slur in IC chat or saying it randomly in ooc. We...

Like look at this person pandar: Timberpoes is, as always, correct in his assessment. People hiding behind "Well I'm not being an ACTUAL [racist/sexist/homophobe], I just like to make offensive jokes because I think they're funny!" is a timeless shield of actual bigots to obfuscate and ral...

Like, every time i see somebody argue about ligger that "Most people saying it are just using it because "aha look how clever i am i said the n-word but not actually im so subtle and original"" i start to regret making rule 11, because it keeps seeming like the types of people wh...

and the more normal and well-adjusted people they scare off, why choose them? 1: Because this is the normal and well adjusted person you defend: There's the n-word swapped with an l, which you have gone out of your way to defend the use of - Most people saying it are just using it because "aha...

MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:51 am That accusation is serious enough to me that i think it must have zero false positives.

Ya, uh, most people who use slurs do so for shock/troll value, and calling them bigots is the exact kind of shit i don't like. That accusation is serious enough to me that i think it must have zero false positives. This is why we used to eject them under rule 1 if they couldn't stop trolling for rea...

Oh, and i think everybody in thread should know something they might not know:

The ban the og peanut was about?

It was the catalyst for me adding hard-rs to the hard filter.

For instance: I can stand existing in a world that offers me no protections for hearing mean words about my demographics, so I presume other demographic can as well. I'm sure you can stand existing in a world like that (it's the world that we live in) but would you like to live in a world with slig...

Actually i lied: there is a 3rd one: The social enforcer bully: "I want to make my self feel better by looking and talking down to people who don't draw the same lines in the sand as myself." Think cartman post pc principal (or goofball now). They don't actually care about ending ISMs, the...

But it doesn't, like, look at the last thread. People got banned for arguing that one should treat words differently depending on the perceived race of the person who said it. People got banned for arguing for the assumption that one has privilege based on their skin color. Because those are both ba...

Correct me if I'm misinterpreting but it seems superfluous to dig heels in about this. If your issue with the discussion is that we're misappropriating griefing to racism, that should be said. As a lowbrow looking in, it seems like this whole argument could be quelled with "I don't think inten...

People don't like the idea of not using rule 11 to punish something like that because they want to turn it into a incurable character flaw with serious accusations like "racism" or "racist" because somebody has a different view on the line of sensitivity then them and I'm not req...

Suppose my whole point is that we lost and continue to lose a lot of future potential people protecting something that isn't important to the game. Arguing against treating or calling something racist != arguing for keeping it in the game. They did it to be a dick, we can still say that. Stop assum...

EmpressMaia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:12 pm MSO has terrible takes about what is and isn't racism

Sorry your ability to be racist towards white people was gimped by my egalitarianism, but that doesn't make it a terrible take.

Rounds lengths are policy because we can decide when to tell admins to go ham on spicing up the round by pressing buttons.

There used to be a 1 hour button press rule to keep rounds from going too far over an hour.

MLK didnt fucking die for this. Racism needs to END. NOW. Full stop. Making a case for keeping a banned slur in a video game is like the Japanese holdout in WWII fighting the wrong war. Why is this the hill to die on? Pretty odd choice for devil's advocate takes... Right..? jeeez we're really sayin...

just a month, but the next time they do that, it will be forever.

Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:31 pm why dont we just find out where ekaterina lives IRL and kill him

just admit you said this to get this thread locked.

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:13 pm check your privilege.

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:12 pm

For the same reason, if a white person calls a black person a "nigger," this has a very different connotation than if a black person calls a black person a "nigger,"

but this isn't about calling somebody the nword

This is about saying, at all.

This argument breaks down when you remember that most only take offense when its a white person who says it. Wow, I can't believe a word that was used by white enslavers against black slaves to dehumanize them has had such an effect that people react negatively when a white person says it. What a s...

A word does not compare to a punch, its a metaphor. The point is that no matter the intent an action that could have put others in great risk of banning was taken. I’ll make sure to make any future posts clearer. It was not a ”harmless prank”, it was forcing other people to spam the n-word to such ...

TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:36 pm its really cool that the n word does not have any effect on you, ekaterina. You are a very tough individual and your thick skin is admirable! Just because a word doesnt impact you doesnt mean other people are not impacted. You say it yourself right here

shit take

Sightld2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:32 pm
TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:57 pm Just because a word doesnt impact you doesnt mean other people are not impacted...
Trouble is, caring about other people requires a degree of kindness.

Shit take

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Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:16 pm
maskenary wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:52 pm for the amount of free labor they are willingly doing its worth keeping them
I'm absolutely fucking floored that you'd say this given how many times I've answered urgent adminhelps brought up against you.

Armhulen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:57 pm OK, we saved Vekter. Now I can go back to calling him a shitmin who needs someone to discord ban him, serverban him, and admin blacklist him

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MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:18 am Vekter has been deadmined and admin banned for threatening to leak #admin-bus

Vekter has been readmined.

As discussed in PM, I'm reverting the deadmining and reducing the discord and admin bans to time served . While I can agree that how I reacted to fikou was over the line, and I can agree that I how responded to your initial messages in adminbus being over the line, I do not apologize for removing an...

We have 3 key general admin channels. #admin-auditorium - public, only admins can talk, has some shit posts. #admin-chatter - private, chatter and chitchat, ideally low on shitposts but mostly low on moderation for free discussion. new admins can not view history for a few weeks. #adminbus - strictl...

Im sober, its stonerlent.

Vekter has been deadmined and admin banned for threatening to leak #admin-bus

I do encourage every other player/coder/spriter/mapper besides chesh to try to add ways to get those uniforms until you wear them down.

the headcoders have decent enough reason to be afraid of what they call sprite bloat, but i call sprite matrix hell, and thats the for every x do y. (matrix in this case referring to matrix math, not the movie) I remember how contentious fat sprite removal was, but every outfit having to have two va...

its not a shitposting channel

its a chatter channel.

Thats why its called admin-chatter.

the shitposting channel is #admin-auditorium

First to clear something up: Auto-deadmin is mostly for the admin's convenience (and to serve as a hint on best practices). Sometimes metainfo would come in via admin alert messages to chat before admins could get a chance to deadmin after unexpectedly rolling captain or ai. admins are allowed to by...

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